https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/07/us/ketanji-brown-jackson-vote-scotus

Supreme Court Highlights: Senate Confirms Ketanji Brown Jackson
The 53-47 vote elevated the first Black woman to the pinnacle of the judicial branch as senators erupted in cheers. Three Republicans joined Democrats in supporting President Biden’s nominee.

April 7, 2022

Updated 5:19 p.m. ET

Here’s what you need to know:

The Senate confirms Jackson, elevating the first Black woman to the Supreme Court.

The Congressional Black Caucus rallies behind Judge Jackson.
The Senate confirms Jackson, elevating the first Black woman to the Supreme Court.

The Senate on Thursday confirmed Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court, making her the first Black woman to be elevated to the pinnacle of the judicial branch in what her supporters hailed as a needed step toward bringing new diversity and life experience to the court.

Overcoming a concerted effort by conservative Republicans to derail her nomination, Judge Jackson was confirmed on a 53-to-47 vote, with three Republicans joining all 50 members of the Democratic caucus in backing her. The vote was a rejection of Republican attempts to paint her as a liberal extremist who has coddled criminals. Dismissing those portrayals as distorted and offensive, Judge Jackson’s backers saw the confirmation as an uplifting occasion, one where a representative of a group often pushed into the background instead moved to the forefront.

The vote put her in line to replace Justice Stephen G. Breyer when he retires at the end of the court’s session this summer.

“Even in the darkest times, there are bright lights,” Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, said on the Senate floor. “Today is one of the brightest lights. Let us hope it’s a metaphor, an indication of many bright lights to come.”

He added, “How many millions of kids in generations past could have benefited from such a role model?” At the Capitol, the galleries to witness the historic vote, closed for much of the pandemic, were full of supporters. The chamber erupted in cheers, with senators, staff and visitors all jumping up for a lengthy standing ovation, after the vote was announced.

Not everyone shared in the joy of the day. As applause echoed from the marbled walls, Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the minority leader, turned his back and slowly walked out, as did most of the few Republicans remaining on the floor, leaving half of the chamber empty as the other half celebrated in a stark reflection of the partisan divide.


“When it came to one of the most consequential decisions a president can make, a lifetime appointment to our highest court, the Biden administration let the radicals run the show,” Mr. McConnell had said earlier, making one last argument against the judge, whose nomination he framed as an example of extremists taking control of the Democratic Party. “The far left got the reckless inflationary spending they wanted. The far left has gotten the insecure border they wanted. And today, the far left will get the Supreme Court justice they wanted.”

Three Republicans — Senators Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Mitt Romney of Utah — crossed party lines to support Judge Jackson, lending a modicum of bipartisanship to an otherwise bitterly polarized process.

Vice President Kamala Harris, the first Black woman to hold the position and one of just 11 Black senators in American history, presided over the vote — one historic figure presiding over the elevation of another — as senators stated their positions from their desks in a reflection of the magnitude of the moment. More than a dozen members of the Congressional Black Caucus, including Representatives Hakeem Jeffries of New York and Joyce Beatty of Ohio, clustered on the Senate floor to mark the occasion.

At the White House, Mr. Biden and Judge Jackson watched the vote together from the Roosevelt Room. Officials said the two would appear at an event on Friday to mark Judge Jackson’s confirmation, though she will not be sworn in for months.

“I’m overjoyed, deeply moved,” Ms. Harris told reporters after the vote. “There’s so much about what’s happening in the world now that is presenting some of the worst of this moment and human behaviors. And then we have a moment like this.”

— Carl Hulse and Annie Karni
Confirmed but on the sidelines: Judge Jackson is now a justice in waiting.

The last three justices to join the Supreme Court did so while its term was already underway, causing them to have to scramble to get up to speed. Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson will face the opposite problem: an extended stretch in which she will be in an unusual twilight space as a justice in waiting.

Her status is the consequence of Justice Stephen G. Breyer’s early and conditional announcement of his retirement and of quick action by Senate Democrats wary of taking risks in confirming his successor given the closely divided chamber.

The last member of the court to announce his retirement, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, did so on June 27, 2018, which was the last day of the term. He said he would step down the next month, regardless of whether his replacement was confirmed. As it happened, his successor, Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh did not take his seat until Oct. 6 of that year, by which time the next term was underway.

Justice Breyer announced his own plans on Jan. 27. “I intend this decision to take effect,” he wrote, “when the court rises for the summer recess this year (typically late June or early July) assuming that by then my successor has been nominated and confirmed.”

That means Judge Jackson, who stopped participating in the appeals court’s work when she was nominated, will be an interested bystander as the Supreme Court issues its big decisions in the coming months, including ones on abortion and guns. She will have time to hire law clerks and study the next term’s docket.

But she will not take the required judicial oath and formally join the Supreme Court until Justice Breyer’s work is done.

According to the Supreme Court’s website, there have been a handful of instances in which new justices were confirmed before retiring ones completed their service. But the months that Judge Jackson will spend on the sidelines appear to set a record.

She will not take the bench until the court returns from its summer break in October, but she will presumably be rested and well prepared for the next term, which will include major cases on affirmative action, voting and gay rights.

— Adam Liptak

This is the same woman who refused to define what a biological woman is
even though she is a biological woman.

She will be the female version of Obama as a justice.

again ?

Get the binary politics out of your mind state. They are trying to push 2+2=5
politics.

I don’t stand on the side of republicans or democrats. I simply believe in
democracy.

She will not have biological women’s best interest in mind... watch what I tell you.

Marsha Blackburn

I don’t care about a side or party. I care about the proper evolution of
of society and the welfare of humanity.

That’s it, and I don’t have a problem with saying NO or YES instead of just
being present when it comes to making decisions or in regards to
legislation.

Everyone is afraid to take a definitive stand , so people skate
down the middle to avoid pushback or disagreements.

You care about a side because you are pushing the same talking points.

Saying YES to legislation that is doing what you claim that you are against, is worse than just being present.

You have not taken a stance. Judge Jackson testified for more than 20 hours, she has a long a track record, and you said this is not a good selection based on one question and child porn sentencing.

That's not a "definitive stand" it's a parrot.

below in regards to her past rulings and decisions in criminal cases. I guess you
missed that. You can still scroll.

She lacked the ability to take necessary tough stances to keep sex offenders
off the street.

word for word, including the resentence part. So I guess I should add Tom Cotton. The Hawley/Cruz/Cotton reasons.

The bad thing about "right wing dogmas that you agree with" sometimes, is the fact that they could care less about those talking points. All of it is just an election ad or way to get money.

No worries.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-judge-jacksons-sentencing-in-child-porn-cases/

You want facts?

Go review the case of Leo Weekes. This is from
my own research, not from fucking Republicans. It’s quite disgusting
on how she was unmoved in regards to the sex crimes that he committed
towards his 13 year old niece, and on multiple occasions she sentenced
him way below the sentencing guidelines and sentenced him to far less time
than what the prosecutor recommended.

Her decision making in those situations were quite consistent in over 7 sex
criminal cases, and they were consistent in situations where she had to re-sentence
criminals because they violated their previous sentence.

This is not an attack on her qualifications and competency. She is well qualified.
However, her perception of the law and the decisions that she has issued based
upon that perception are highly questionable, and are cause for concern.


Facts CHECKED.

You ask if I want facts and answer by doing the opposite.

You offer no source and then you make a false claim that you did your own research that didn't come from Republicans. Do you really believe it's not obvious this Leo Weekes case was a last minute smear by Hawley/Cruz/Cotton pushed after the testimony ended, to feed the cult ?

Her decision making in "those situations" and her perception of the law and the decisions that she issued based upon that perception of the law" are so questionable and concerning that, she was endorsed by IACP, Fraternal Order of Police, 83 Republican and Democratic former attorneys general, American Bar Association, Crime Victim/Survivors and Advocates.

All of them want a Supreme Court judge who is too lenient toward child pornography offenders.

You and Hawley/Cruz/Cotton "facts"

because I see you don’t understand the history here.

Here actions as a judge have been in question prior to her being nominated.
This isn’t some newly constructed political attack.

The Washington advocacy group for constitutional judges and the rule of law have
constantly questioned her actions and theories as a judge. From the time
she was appointed by Obama up until the time she was nominated by Biden,
she gave out reduced sentences to sex offenders as a trial judge, and consistently went against the recommended sentencing by prosecutors.


“She served as the tip of the spear in weakening federal sentencing policy for child pornographers as vice chair of the U.S. Sentencing Commission, where she ignored the advice of expert witnesses who disputed her theory that child pornographers are somehow not pedophiles,” said Mike Davis, president of the Article III Project, a Washington advocacy group for constitutional judges and the rule of law.

This ain’t new, buddy. This has always been her reputation. The truth and facts are there, no matter how many times you want to skate around it.

What was it you said

You do your "own research, not from fucking Republicans"


https://article3project.org/our-history/


Mike Davis, the former Chief Counsel for Nominations to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, is the founder and president of the Article III Project (A3P). A3P defends constitutionalist judges and the rule of law. Davis also leads the Internet Accountability Project (IAP), an advocacy organization fighting to rein in Big Tech, along with the Unsilenced Majority, an organization dedicated to opposing Cancel Culture and fighting back against the woke mob and their enablers.

Yep that sounds like someone a democrat socialist would use as a source.


All trolling all the time = Allstah

NUMBERS matter. Not words. So continue to skate.


SENTENCE IMPOSED FOR POSSESSION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY

· National Average: 68.0 months Jackson Average: 29.3 months

· Difference: Jackson imposed sentences 57% less than national average.

SENTENCE IMPOSED FOR DISTRIBUTION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY

· National Average: 135.0 months Jackson Average: 71.9 months

· Difference: Jackson imposed sentences 47% less than national average.

SENTENCE IMPOSED BY ALL U.S. DISTRICT COURTS (NATIONAL AVERAGE)

· National Average: 45.1 months Jackson Average: 29.9 months

· Difference: Jackson imposed sentence 33.8% less than national average.


You have yet to post anything of any substance to support your
counter argument.

Common

Lynn Mabry of the Brides of Funkenstein (legend)


They've already been on Instagram celebrating (and I with them - Lynn Mabry liked my comment!)


Yeah


I just want to say Black people like me, Common and Lynn Mabry (P-funk legend) eagerly stand with most Black people with President Biden in celebrating this historic moment

and...


I thank you for letting me point out the difference between Black people like me and Common who gladly support Judge Jackson and those Black people who don't.

I’m here to celebrate and support humanity. There is a difference.

And I don’t support her selection, nor am I huge fan of the Biden administration.

Bernie or busting ultra leftist humanity


that type of humanity supporting stuff


I'll take Biden moderate stuff, like Judge Jackson.


because

I really really don't like trump or what trump does

like really don't

but that doesn’t mean I’m going to go side with another
bad politician.

...otherwise:

It's Biden or trump (moderate Dems or trump)


sorry to keep reminding ultra-leftists of reality

You don't seem to know what constitutes ultra left.

Defending Putin/Russia and hating on this confirmation are consistent with your GQP support.

but I do support every man’s right to have a choice and an opinion.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

And we should just let him, frankly. He fucking sucks.

it would be allstah

and child molesters, and has even lied about handling such cases.
In a lot of those cases, she expressed more compassion for the
criminal than she did for the victim.

Take the Wesley Keith Hawkins situation....He is a young black gay man, who
was caught posting videos on YouTube of boys as young as 11 years old being
raped by men. Jackson gave him a slap on the wrist and showed overwhelming
sympathy towards him. So instead of sentencing him the recommended two years
of prison time by the prosecutor, she sentenced him to a few months in a lower
security facility, and even arranged for him to have special protection.

She stated that she didn’t believe that he was a pedophile and that
he didn’t pose a risk to children, and that his case didn’t warrant the 2 year jail time
sentence.

Well, after he completed his jail time, he was busted again by his probation
officer with having child pornography. She had to step in and essentially resentence him, this time to six months in a “residential reentry center,” according to her court filing. Asked about Hawkins’ relapse at her Senate hearing, she testified she could not recall the matter. But transcripts show that in her May 2021 sentencing of Adam Chazin, who was busted with 48 files of child porn including images of toddlers, she said “I remember Mr. Hawkin’s case well, even though it was many years ago.” Jackson cited her leniency toward Hawkins while giving Chazin just 28 months in prison (versus the 78 months prosecutors demanded).

This is not a person who should be a Supreme Court Judge.

..y'all still try to give ultra-leftists some kind of credence.

Nah, just destruction

Nader destroying Gore

Bernie or Busting destroying Hillary


Now

guess who in is here doing ANOTHER destruction job

yep


Ultra-leftist

Nice try, though

He said pro humanity! That makes him ultra left!

No. It sounds like you’ve conflated AS’ empty, overly simplistic, fake deep “pro humanity” comment with “humanist”, which do generally seem to swing left, and arrived at your own empty, overly simplistic take .

And his outrage over this selection, particularly her (general) stance on trans issues, is in no way humanist.

Nice try though.

why don't you ask all Stah if he's ultra-left?


You know what he tell you


yep


Hey all-stah, you who stands for evolution of society and democracy and humanity...are you ultra-left?


hmm....

will y'all really wait for all-Stah to answer or....will you want to debate me?


I really don't think all-Stah will run away from this post now...since all-Stah was so eager to participate early and often in this post before


so...

sorry Cold Truth, no back and forth with me (this times)...



We're going to wait for all-Stah to come back (he's been here A LOT already) and CLARIFY if all-Stah is "ultra-left"




yep

>why don't you ask all Stah if he's ultra-left?

Because you said it, not him.
I'm talking to the person who actually said it.
Because that's how things work.


>will y'all really wait for all-Stah to answer or....will you
>want to deba

You're the one who called him ultra left, so yes, I'm talking to the person who said it.

Moreover, it doesn't matter what he calls himself. The views he expresses are what determines where he falls on that spectrum- and very little, if any of the views he expresses come anywhere close to "ultra left". In fact, his expressed views on Kentaji Brown Jackson's stance on trans issues definitively are not ultra left.

>We're going to wait for all-Stah to come back (he's been here
>A LOT already) and CLARIFY if all-Stah is "ultra-left"

Typical. You make an assertion, and then refuse to defend or substantiate that assertion.

And, as is also typical for you, that assertion never had a leg to stand on to begin with.

..all stah...come back....

YOU said it.
Not him.
It's nobody's job to defend YOUR talking points.

...come back...I want to ask you about Bernie....Bernie....

and I voted for Bernie during the 2020 Democratic Primary.

You could categorize me as a democratic socialist, but
I’m simply a humanist. I prefer that term.

There are right wing dogmas that I agree with, though, especially
the banning of transgenders from participating in women’s sports and
using restrooms for women. I believe in the right to bear arms, however, that should
be limited to shotguns only. All hand guns and and semi-automatic rifles should be
banned.

I’m pro choice. I believe in a universal income for society, and I believe
a single payer healthcare system.

I’m neither Republican or Democratic

I’m simply a humanist.

and I voted for Bernie during the 2020 Democratic Primary.

You could categorize me as a democratic socialist, but
I’m simply a humanist. I prefer that term.

There are right wing dogmas that I agree with, though, especially
the banning of transgenders from participating in women’s sports and
using restrooms for women. I believe in the right to bear arms, however, that should
be limited to shotguns only. All hand guns and and semi-automatic rifles should be
banned.

I’m pro choice. I believe in a universal income for society, and I believe
in a single payer healthcare system.

I’m neither a Republican or a Democrat

I’m a straight up humanist.

legs 15. "Lmao.. That dude is not ultra left AT ALL


>and
>
>You could categorize me as a democratic socialist, but
>I’m simply a humanist. I prefer that term.


democratic SOCIALIST

voted for Bernie


TOKPR - dance like Michael, Bobby and Usher Raymond all you want, folks


PEACE

but go on

hmm....

Yeah...


I love the Jackson 5's "Dancin' Machine" just like everybody else


yep

and social issues

people can call themselves whatever they want..

but the receipts are out there

"EVOLUTION of society"

Democracy

Humanity

Added with GOING HARD AT A BIDEN NOMINEE


....uh


I KNEW Bernie voting and "you could categorize me as a democratic Socialist..." was OBVIOUS.


If it wasn't to YOU....


If YOU could in any way claim "Lmao..not ultra left AT ALL..."


....uh

that was a ridiculous exchange.
Voting Bernie in the primary as the smoking gun of evidence. Jesus fucking christ

Whoever came up with "TOKPR" was on-point.

TOKPR:

y'all REALLY SO INTO THE OKP BUBBLE you don't know what most Americans think of Bernie.

Bernie?

Y'all don't remember what Obama thought people viewed Obama as...but Bernie?

Y'all REALLY think most Americans think Bernie (a Senator who DOESN'T EVEN CALL HIMSELF A DEMOCRAT) isn't Ultra-left?

Y'all know HOW left folks thought Obama was, and then FURTHER.. FOR BERNIE?

THEN..."DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST" FOR ALLSTAH?


TOKPR

you are putting way too much money into this based on one vote.

the shit is comedy.

...because....

...if I...someone who GRADUATED from Rutgers University. ..DOESN'T KNOW WHAT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS...

....uh..

...MOST AMERICANS WON'T VIEW DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM AS "FAR LEFT"...?


...uh...

...what will most Americans view "democratic socialism" as? (okp bubble dwellers)

You just started using that shit, when your unhinged ass couldn't hold onto your allstah as being "ultra left" take (because he's clearly not). Then you came in here with this "most americans" shit as if that has shit to do with fuck.

You should contact Rutgers about getting your money back.

...uh ..

Okp bubble

>You should contact Rutgers about getting your money back.

....uh...

...uh....

...if I'm going to label something "ultra"

...uh...

....uh...

I...uh...kinda..have to..compare "ultra" to a "baseline"....


....uh...


Is...the okp bubble going to be my "baseline" to call something else "ultra"?


...uh..

My baseline should be "most Americans"


Uh...

Don't think Hitoriki will come back but...


...hey...see what a Rutgers' degree does?


Outclasses lightweights

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Ed-Helms-Andy-Bernard-The-Office.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=395&dpr=1.5

Checkmate

You've shown you don't know shit about what leftist politics are. You think "most americans" is a good measure of understanding the political spectrum, as if the ghosts of mccarthyism aren't ever present. You think that voting Bernie makes a person "ultra left" and have no idea what democratic socialism is. You think this "okp bubble" means something... when some of us do shit like read books and hang out with actual leftists. The fuck am I coming back for?

yep

"........I GRADUATED from Rutgers..."

"You think "most americans" is a good measure of understanding the political spectrum"


uh...

...your leftist friends gonna elect a democratic Socialist for us to make a post about him or her putting someone on the Supreme Court?

Show me where I said anything about electing anyone or putting anyone on the supreme court? All I said is that you, out here calling allstah "ultra left," don't know shit. Which again, you're demonstrating quite well.

Have a nice night Rutgers.

ahem....

"understanding the political spectrum" (your words)


....uh...


WHAT GOOD IS "UNDERSTANDING THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM" IF YOU CAN'T ELECT SOMEONE YOU "AGREE WITH" ("DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST"?) WHO CAN PUT SOMEONE ON THE SUPREME COURT? (YOU KNOW, THE POST HERE ON JUDGE JACKSON YOU ARE TAKING PRECIOUS TIME FROM LEARNING MORE LEFT-WING POLITICAL STUFF TO TALK TO A RUTGERS GRAD WHO LOVES REGULAR AMERICAN DEMOCRAT VS. REPUBLICAN BASIC POLITICAL STUFF)


SEE HOW EASY THIS IS FOR ME?

yep

.

wrong place.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

he craves the attention his shitposting brings.

d

I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, and we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody wants us to say, is wasting our time on this Earth - C. Adichie

and you will see some serious issues with her ability to lawfully judge.

But everyone wants to go with what is popular as oppose to what is right and
factual.

This is a rerun. I’ve seen this before. She is the female version of Obama, and
she is going to skate around situations just like he did.

Just like his history as a senator illustrated a lot of red flags, so does
her history as a judge.

He’s an idiot

Have a confirmed nominee on deck and ready to go in case a slot opens up for some reason and there's a short window of time before this session of Congress ends.

A Judge in storage.

You know manchin and sinema would find a way to fuck it all up for dems tho cuz they're sociopaths.

in Biden's first 100 days.

Should have tied it to attacks on Democracy, rolling back of voting rights, and most importantly...1/6.


This is a great week/moment...but at the end of the day, Dems did not gain a seat here.


Bottom line...the court is stolen and outdated. 1/6 provided political juice that they just did not capitalize on at all... Lin Manuel was not the answer lol lol

GOP is about to curb stomp them in 22...even if something happens, Biden will be jammed up...and GOP prob wins in 24. Fuck around and the court will be 7-2 inside of 4-5 years.


GOP literally stole the court and is actively trying to steal elections across the country...Dems just did not meet the moment. At all.

>in Biden's first 100 days.
>
>Should have tied it to attacks on Democracy, rolling back of
>voting rights, and most importantly...1/6.
>
>
>This is a great week/moment...but at the end of the day, Dems
>did not gain a seat here.
>
>
>Bottom line...the court is stolen and outdated. 1/6 provided
>political juice that they just did not capitalize on at all...
>Lin Manuel was not the answer lol lol
>
>GOP is about to curb stomp them in 22...even if something
>happens, Biden will be jammed up...and GOP prob wins in 24.
>Fuck around and the court will be 7-2 inside of 4-5 years.
>
>
>GOP literally stole the court and is actively trying to steal
>elections across the country...Dems just did not meet the
>moment. At all.
>
>
>
>

Can we get 13 SCJs that reflect the 13 Circuit Courts? This inaction for inaction's sake is why we can't have nice things most of the time.

cause they really should lol

i guess if they could and did then next time the gop is control they would do the same x5.

"It" being confirming someone for a seat that is currently occupied (by Breyer). Only difference would be there is no immediate expectation of a vacancy.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I mean...wow.

I'm sure Senators Collins, Murkowski, and Romney didn't endorse her without good reason.

Honest questions:

Why is her confirmation celebrated?

Should the black community be excited about her confirmation and if so, why?

How much of her record did you research? Not talking about the Republican conspiracy but her actual record.

What specifically will her confirmation do for the black community?

Are you voting for Democrats this year because Kentahi was confirmed?

all Supreme Court nominees will be judged - due to the way she came off poised and intelligent.

Now....

I know this is OKP, and I've famously bandied about TOKPR and okp bubble in this post

but....


if the OKP bubble is so strong that people can't recognize that a Black female nominee who comes across very well in what was called BRUTALLY DISRESPECTFUL questioning (Judge Jackson reportedly also came across very admirable when she met with the Senators individually) then....

..y'all are really taking the hard to please, TOKPR, okp bubble thing too far.


Some things just are admirable - and Judge Jackson just came across very admirable - and to the Black community at large - THAT has substantial power (esp. after the Academy Awards thing).

However, she is just a political actor, like most Supreme Court
justices in this era. They are more political than they are judiciary,
making decisions based on the political side they sit on.

Also, she is a skater in my opinion, not one to make a definitive stand
in her approach, but will act and talk around things. Her response to the biological
women question is an example of that, and her pretending to not remember
cases she provided over during hearings.

She will not be the one to fight for biological women...That’s more than obvious.

this shit is hilarious

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The left can't seem to agree on what wins look like.

The first black woman supreme court justice is also the first public defender on the court, and we have to explain that even while criminal justice reform is supposed to be one of the top issues for black people.

You have a supreme court judge who defended Guantanamo prisoners and folks are like, who cares? SMH.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

if he runs again. some wont but i think his low approval numbers are a bit blown out of proportion.

theres probably 40% of the country that will disapprove of him no matter what, 40% that will support him through pretty much anything and the rest will be split on voting for him in 2024.

i kind of feel like we are where we were before he won SC. he looked bad yet was able to pull that off and run away with it when it came down to it. im thinking he and his team know what they need to do to get the votes they need and will just take the heat in the meanwhile.

i dont know how much of that will translate to the midterms though since he isnt on the ballot. it would be nice to see him pull that surprise off and at least hold both houses.

Sure, the very, very few wins the Biden admin/Dems have had aren't fully appreciated by some...which can also ultimately be on the admin for having no sales person of course.

The admin has done little to nothing to address attacks on democracy, COVID, climate change, voting rights, a stolen supreme court, immigration, abortion rights, etc.

For months told us all inflation was in our heads (lol) and still no plan to address it...except I guess extend the waver for high-ethanol gas which angered a lot of vote-blue-no-matter-who types just a couple years ago when Trump tried it. And L O L at thinking it will even help.

About to pretend that COVID cases aren't ticking back up.

Had to be fucking dragged to extend student loan payments.


Withdrew from Afg before solidifying some domestic wins (his approval has been shit since)

Fell flat on their face on BBB and managed to piss off all sides of that argument. Progressives upset it didn't pass...moderates pissed it was even considered. Straight punched themselves in the face with nothing to even show for it. Amateur hour.


Thats just off the top. On top of that, just not good at selling his few wins.


This was a huge moment of course, but most people realize it is not like Dems gained a seat.

Its still 6-3. Hard to get *too* excited when this will NOT change the outcome.

Biden's approval isn't low because the left can decide what is a win.

It isn't low because of "fake news" errr I mean the media.

Or any other bullshit reason that excuses the Admin/Dems from accountability.


It is low because quite a bit of shit that was horrific/terrible/etc under Trump is still happening under Joe but a lot of folks want to pretend that isn't the case.


Dems are about to get slaughtered and the fucking consultants and donors and apologists are lining up to blame the "left" boogie man and it is insanely wrong and I am at a loss at how anyone with sense can fall for it.

Do a shitty job, get a shitty approval rating.

If you were of age during Nader vs. Gore...

Even Hillary vs. Bernie or busters, those situations tell it all.

Basically, the left feel if moderates are destroyed (Hillary/Gore) the left will finally get a chance to win.

That is all.

most people don't see this as affecting their lives. even for the people who can name a few SCOTUS justices, they're still the same minority they were when Biden took office.

other people are like i dunno but i heard she likes pedophiles or something

but i hear you on the selling of anything. This admin is terrible at giving itself credit. the infrastructure bill was barely a blip. imagine if Trump signed a trillion dollar infrastructure bill.

Trump had himself for shit like this. he'd tweet shit he did (or better yet didn't even do) and his followers would repeat these lines verbatim in every argument. They'd be yelling "roads and bridges" like a kid with tourettes