WTF was that??

And when Chris was announcing Quest’s Oscar win…

Are we sure that wasn’t staged?

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1508270575902687232

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1508270575902687232?s=12&t=EPXWC9qMkTCAN-leFpJH6g

>https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1508270575902687232?s=12&t=EPXWC9qMkTCAN-leFpJH6g

https://twitter.com/GroveBoy_Lando/status/1508282687299420167?t=p59cBaPKYNZ-1-mbwyD1NA&s=19

but dude was sitting there laughing seconds before

Will Smith is such a dumb cornball.

we knew it but gahhht damn lol. He gotta be smarter than that man.

I'm supposed to believe the guy who couldn't even wobble Chris Rock could take down Frazier and Foreman?!

>I'm supposed to believe the guy who couldn't even wobble
>Chris Rock could take down Frazier and Foreman?!

or maybe that was him getting chris rock attention

For so many reasons.

felt like it would be a long night if he didn’t protect her honor after laughing

Definitely created a buzz for the Oscars so ionno what to believe.

He made himself look like a dumbass. Rock ate the slap and made a funny ass joke after. Will Smith is still a dumb cornball. He's achieved Super CornBall status now.

Does he stay for the entire ceremony now? That would be weird and awkward.

Will initially laughs at the joke and then decides that he needs to course correct and sucker punch/slap Rock. Which Rock takes in such stride that people assume that it was all staged.

Will better hope he wins tonight because if he doesn’t, he is never going to win now and may find it hard to get acting jobs after that.

They just gave him an Oscar. Not to be a lame but if any of us did that we'd be arrested or escorted out. He's having a mental breakdown.

>They just gave him an Oscar. Not to be a lame but if any of
>us did that we'd be arrested or escorted out. He's having a
>mental breakdown.

Hit a comedian after they made a joke about them, they would be escorted out and possibly arrested.

If this is okay and people are cool with this, a trans person or someone dating a trans person can attend a Chappelle show and just hit him for not liking his trans joke, sit back down like nothing happened and the show just continues on? Not to make this about Chappelle and his trans jokes but just using that as an example.

Dave is also about 100 pounds of muscle heavier than Chris Rock. No one is trying that shit.

Pretty sure this is a once in a lifetime thing. I don’t expect any more comics to get slapped by anybody

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

but her name being there was stepping over a line apparently

Trophy or no trophy, this dude just took the L of all Ls.

From his overreaction to him not being able to even phase Chris (lol I'm crying) to him being ON VIDEO laughing until Jada wasn' thaving it to everything else dudes have pointed out in here.

Jada will post something about Pac inside of 3 days lol lol


Yeah, Will needs to go away for awhile.


But...you seem to like cornball, fake tough guy shit like this.

"would you slap a nigga for me" im telling yall Will is up. it dont matter that he laughed. he got active when his woman wanted him to and that's what the discourse is going to be

So now he WAS laughing and its dope?

Why do you cheer on fake cornball tough guy shit?


Jada will be bumping Me Against the World tonight...probably while she's with another dude.


This was overcompensating like shiit. What a dweeb.

he could have bitch slapped Chris to the ground and it still wouldn't take away that he laughed at that joke. Everything after is just damage control

Will fucked this up. there was no gain for him doing that.

and I totally forgot Will was up for an Oscar this year..

so I thought it was staged to get eyes on this show because they have been struggling.

If Will didn't react at all? L
Overreact (debatable, but I personally think he overreacted)? L

The thing is this is all people are going to talk about, it's going to completely overshadow his win.

Years from now, people are still gonna think about this when they think about Will's Oscar win.

...what a fuckin simp

i just re-watched this to make sure i wasn't wrong

this is an L like on 4 levels

Knock Rock down or at least daze him. The fact that Rock didn’t stagger and kept his composure makes it seemed staged.

You would think Will would be strong enough to knock Rock down.

either Rock knows how to roll with a pinch or it was staged.

rather than him winning an Oscar for Best Actor

https://mobile.twitter.com/omi_collector/status/1508272493995323393/photo/1

Will slapped him, and is in a fighting stance (I guess that Ali training paid off for him).

Someone further up posted the video too where you can see the uncensored words that were exchanged after.

Will Smith gonna make be people not afraid to just slap people. And he apologized to the academy and his fellow nominees and not rock lol lol lol. And he stayed! Not giving a Fuck! Better if he wasn’t crying and kinda rambling on the speech but still

Staging that was a good idea?

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

IMO Rock likely didn’t know Jadas crewcut was due to a medical issue.

Smith in turn likely wouldn’t react that way to Rocks same joke if Jadas haircut were simply a haircut.

It reminds me of a story, of a man who meets a young girl seated on a couch with her dress billowed up, obscuring her legs, so he says playfully, hi little girl, where are your legs…and the girl actually has no legs and starts crying at his rudeness.

Of course Smiths narcissism came into play as well especially during that speech. How embarrassing. “I’m just like the Williams father, because I resort to violence quickly over words.”

>IMO Rock likely didn’t know Jadas crewcut was due to a
>medical issue.
>
>Smith in turn likely wouldn’t react that way to Rocks same
>joke if Jadas haircut were simply a haircut.
>
>It reminds me of a story, of a man who meets a young girl
>seated on a couch with her dress billowed up, obscuring her
>legs, so he says playfully, hi little girl, where are your
>legs…and the girl actually has no legs and starts crying at
>his rudeness.

sorry but alopecia isn't some life threatening medical condition. and they're sitting in the front row of a chris rock opener. tough shit.

I think if she chuckled he doesn’t react like that

but once Jada gave him that look he felt he had to do something.

Jada looked hurt. Dude probably looked over and saw his wife looking hurt and activated.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

Dude thinks he is some righteous misunderstood genius or something.

Chris is on the spectrum and Will is a ball of feels

Denzel adds a grounding quote…

this is the complexity of Black lives
and the Oscars usually go to white versions of this story

>Chris is on the spectrum and Will is a ball of feels
>
>Denzel adds a grounding quote…
>
>this is the complexity of Black lives
>and the Oscars usually go to white versions of this story

in particular the last two lines you wrote.

Will he get charged with assault?

change his mind.

He wasnt wrong. He is Chris Rock. He tells edgy jokes. In comedy, nothing is off limits.

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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

To project that he has it all figured out and dude has turned out to be one of the messiest dudes out there.

Like he gets up there and makes a speech about how he is a river for God when it's really that he is dude who feels like he is a butt of jokes because his wife embarrassed him.

We will hear him for weeks describing it in flowery ornate language when it's really not that deep. It's the same messy shit that goes on in so many relationships.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Especially after watching these sanctimonious crackas and wannabes react to this slap that was clearly a "stop the disrespect" moment.

talking about "abuse" and "he could have killed him".

Someone need to slap Judd Apatow's monkey ass, full stop.

You basically aligned yourself with the same crackas you tried to diss. Im assuming you will add Dave Chappelle, Ricky Gervais, Larry David, etc to the list of comedians you'd like to see physically assaulted because lame simps cant take a joke. Will Smith isnt some tough guy. He's an idiot that made himself look like a lame. I guarantee if The Rock or someone bigger had made that joke Will Smith would have sat his entanglement ass in the chair and not said a word.

after that stunt.

Alot of comedians have been complaining for years that college students have gotten so "sensitive" that they don't do college tours anymore. Chappelle's been going through it with the transgendered community for a minute now and then there's everything swirling Joe Rogan (more about his podcast than his actual standup but he's still a comedian to me).

Most of the controversies with comedy have been about comedians "punching down" on oppressed people. Rock "punched up" and got slapped. :shrug:

"At a campaign rally in Las Vegas, Trump said of a protester, “I’d like to punch him in the face.” As security guards escorted the protester out of the rally, Trump mocked him, saying, “He’s smiling. Having a good time.” He then reminisced about being able to get away with violence: “There’s a guy, totally disruptive, throwing punches. We’re not allowed to punch back anymore. I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.” Trump also called the protester “nasty as hell.” CNN reported that the man did not appear to fight with the security guards taking him outside."

https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-violence-tweets-racist-hate-speech

One thing I can’t stand is trying to turn everything into some political debate where you have to choose sides.

Black folk been slapping each other for talking sideways since forever.

the left is the side that has been looking for any slip up or word that will show a comedian is an ogre/racist/homophobe/etc

This is just Will trying to get his balls back after one too many jokes at his wife’s expense


I think Rock shitting on Jada at the Oscars when they boycotted is prolly why he snapped.. along with all that other shit with Jada. I think he was in Hollywood mode and laughed initially and then was like “oops, totally forgot that shit Jada said about Rock and his jokes”

thinkpiece twitter is in overdrive.

shit like this:
https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/1508285677854679046

im shutting the app down til wednesday.

that was news to me tonight.

>that was news to me tonight.
>

Same.

Did you know? It seems like you didn’t.

I had no idea, I just assumed she kept her hair short because she wanted to keep it short and it wasn’t due to a health issue.

A lot of people are just assuming Chris Rock knew she had a health issue, I don’t think Rock knew.

>Did you know? It seems like you didn’t.

particularly older black women. cuz the hair just gets naturally thinner with age and hormonal changes. and then the additional effects from years of hair styling, treatments, chemicals, etc.

People are acting like she had cancer and her head was shaved because she just went through chemo.

for all the goofy stretching ass takes there are gonna be

i done seen shit about scientology, toxic masculinity, the anti-comedy left, etc.

As someone who had alopecia in his youth and just lost a parent to a debilitating disease last year, it's pretty triggering for me.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

Lost my mom to breast cancer. I still laugh at cancer jokes and so did she. Comedy is comedy and nothing is off limits. If we decided to moderate comedy, comedy would just die. Seeing people equate hair loss to some other supposed "off limits" diseases make me angry as fuck.

I’m sure most people here and on Twitter had no idea she had a hair loss disease.

As you said, this cheapens people with actual real, life threatening diseases.

So black and white people are both taking this to a ridiculous level. She tried to compare Jada Pinkett and Ketanji Brown Jackson because of the importance of hair on the public stage for black women. Shit is not that deep. It was a joke.

Learning the reason for her hair definitely makes the anger make sense, except he clearly laughed at the joke.

I’m really not with anyone trying to shit on his role in their relationship, or shitting on him for defending her. But he definitely shouldn’t have done it at that time, or in that way.

If anything, he needed to talk to him about it afterward.

its possible, maybe even likely, that he didn't initially get that the joke was about her hair, and was just kinda laughing along politely, and it came to him, when he saw Jada's reaction, however for such a reaction, he would then have to assume that Rock knows she has a condition and is choosing to mock it.. and i don't think he had enough processing time to get there, so it seems he just overcompensated, because HE knows he has a condition and he knows he just fucked up

Plus if his whole thing is just 'keep my wife's name out your mouth', period... yeah that doesn't play either because again, he was laughing. (that's just shit you say in the moment tho)

obv he handled this thing badly, and its funny because if i had to guess, the three of them will hash this out, but it's all gonna take on a life of its own, with everything from a billion think pieces, scold tweets, and anti cancel culture stuff...with everyone from the view to ben shapiro needing to weigh in.. the whole gamut

Lot of people, myself included for a brief moment, were hammering him for laughing at first but your point about it possibly being simply a product of his being polite, processing, then reacting puts that part of the situation into the proper perspective IMO.

And I think you're also right that the above can be true, while the "he overreacted" responses to the whole thing can also be true. I stand in that line.

But ... his processing fell short when he won the oscar a half hour later and didn't apologize to CR lol. I'm sure they'll hash it out but he had enough time by then to realize he'd fucked up and should've at least acknowledged Rock in his otherwise-brutal speech.


>its possible, maybe even likely, that he didn't initially get
>that the joke was about her hair, and was just kinda laughing
>along politely, and it came to him, when he saw Jada's
>reaction, however for such a reaction, he would then have to
>assume that Rock knows she has a condition and is choosing to
>mock it.. and i don't think he had enough processing time to
>get there, so it seems he just overcompensated, because HE
>knows he has a condition and he knows he just fucked up
>
>Plus if his whole thing is just 'keep my wife's name out your
>mouth', period... yeah that doesn't play either because again,
>he was laughing. (that's just shit you say in the moment tho)
>
>obv he handled this thing badly, and its funny because if i
>had to guess, the three of them will hash this out, but it's
>all gonna take on a life of its own, with everything from a
>billion think pieces, scold tweets, and anti cancel culture
>stuff...with everyone from the view to ben shapiro needing to
>weigh in.. the whole gamut

in his speech

and he already fucked up once with her by laughing at the joke lol

>I don't think Jada would've approved of him apologizing to Rock

There's a LOT of assumptions necessary to get there.

once a nigga decides to make it work, they'll defend it from all threats, foreign or domestic. They can't risk having it backslide.

It's the same reaction DJ Envy had

persona just playing along, almost to the point that the actual joke didn’t register, until he saw his wife’s reaction and that broke his public persona to the point that he overreacted the other way with the slap action.

And even then, I think his public persona immediately kicked in, knowing he’d overreacted, so the damage control response was “keep my wife’s name out your…” even though he’d initially laughed at the joke.

....great acting!

has been making the rounds

but I can't see Chris Rock wanting to sit down, have to bite his tongue to avoid any emotional land mines from Jada and Will's perspectives, and give Jada Smith content for her Facebook show.

I have to think he'll get his jokes off about the incident when he does decide to make a public comment about the incident on his terms and move on.

it would be wild for him appear on the show for all the reasons you said. it's also shot in their house. Will might pop out at any moment.

Smiths are 100% done and they'll never be involved in anything together again.

so I think seeing her leave really put him into “gotta do something” mode

Just odd to see Will do that when he always tries to be this life coach guru

She gave him that Baltimore glance

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

He looked over at Jada and knew she was gonna bar him up for a whole hour on the Red Table Talk if he didn't do something right then and there.

... her reaction to *his* reaction on video.

That's pretty much what i've learned from this thread and looking at twitter today.

Slapping a comedian is cancel culture. Advocating for assaulting an entertainer on stage for a joke is some Trump shit. Dumb people will ABSOLUTELY try to imitate what Will Smith did if a comedian attempts to make fun of them. "Pulling a Will Smith." The Oscars are dumb hypocrites for letting him just chill and enjoy the rest of the show AND let him go up and give a dumb rambling speech about love.

no idea what Trump or Fox Need has to do with this shit.

I meant the idea of encouraging violence against people or things you do not like, threatening to fight black lives matter protesters, encouraging the audience to attack people speaking out at his rally, etc. Use your brain.

https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-violence-tweets-racist-hate-speech

What a clown. If he'd at least acknowledged CR in his speech, that line would've made more sense but absent an acknowledgement of CR it's just laughable.

and according to an early report, Will Smith was dancing the night away at a post-awards show while holding onto his Oscar.

That, on top of everything else, is some weirdo behavior IMO.

https://twitter.com/RaminSetoodeh/status/1508346440321433607

I also find it strange behavior. I know he was up for an Oscar but how he didn't just leave after smacking Chris is beyond bizarre. How did he put that shit behind him THAT fast that he stayed to get his award and then dance and sing with random people afterwards. And these same people are singing and dancing right along with him, standing ovations and shit.

The fuck is going on?

Did anybody even bother to check on Chris? lol, the fuck?

Hollywood is just too weird man.

The amount of back flips they are doing trying to co-sign what Will Smith did because its Jada Pinkett, while keeping their toxic masculinity podium adding a sentence at the end. "But.....violence is never the answer. Ignore the entire paragraph i just wrote supporting an act of toxic masculinity and physical assault."

What was in the link?

In the middle of a bunch of Hollywood people cheering him on

….after somebody got fucked up?

Where are you from?

Will slapped Chris, not the other way around. Why not party after you slapped somebody and won an Oscar? LOL

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

“After all, why was the precipitating incident of the fresh prince backstory a ‘little’ fight?”

(From an imaginary thinkpiece lol)

This article explained a lot, don't agree with last line that he hasn't lost any respect tho.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/will-smith-oscar-king-richard_n_623ddc26e4b0c0781aba8786

WTF is no one worried about him? There were no reports of him being "consoled" during breaks or anyone at the Oscars offering any support for him and he was the person who got slapped in the face on national TV.

This among everything else just shows where we are as a society. I hope comedians continue to rally around him. That was some bullshit.

Folks really advocating for walking on stage and attacking comedians if they dont like their jokes. Shit is wild.

....so far Lil Rel has weighed in on IG live and basically said CR wasn't funny and jive brought it on himself.

I wonder how many comics that have acting gigs will side with Will so as not to fuck up their bag vs. those who say they are about the art and will defend Chris.

But yeah, I really want to know what happened to Chris after he left the stage. I wonder if he went to any of the parties afterward or just went home.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

>....so far Lil Rel has weighed in on IG live and basically
>said CR wasn't funny and jive brought it on himself.

another comic thinks a subjectively bad joke merits someone interrupting an awards show to get smacked in the face.

That's such a wrong take for so many reasons from another comic, but I suppose that's just my subjective opinion on the matter.

Dude is obviously just trying to protect his career. That's the only way i can see a comedian talk about "mean jokes" and co-signing assaulting a comedian.

from the clip I saw it look like he handled it like a G. Made some jokes and kept it moving.

Niggas is worried about Will cause he been the butt of everybody jokes for years. He been acting like a guru and like he above it all but niggas know you can only take that shit but for so long.

I also thought he was hosting but apparently it was Amy Schumer.

he didn't get choked out.

Who is getting a GI Jane reference in 2022...?

If this is real...I did immediately feel bad for Rock
That's a live show
He just got embarrassed in front of his peers and broadcast to the world

That's pretty f'd up...for what amounted to a joke that fell flat

>Who is getting a GI Jane reference in 2022...?

Most people.

The fact that a reference is dated doesn't mean people don't get it.

I was curious about that as well but GI Jane goes hand in hand with being a female version of GI Joe. So people may not get the exact movie reference but they get the idea of the reference. Military shaved head, GI Joe, GI Jane. My students thought it was funny.

in all the years Chris Rock did stand up if a heckler got so bold (and/or drunk) as to actually rush the stage to attack him.

Will is gonna have to fight every comedian on the planet now.

or a woman? I think we know the answer to that. he probably also woundn't have do it to Katt, Ced, Steve, Wayne Brady.

He knew Chris aint the fighting type, especially while he was working. Will still a coward, just like he said in his book.

Let Hugh Jackman go up there and make that joke. Will would have sat there and talked about it later on Red Table while August bangs his wife some more.

about their open marriage and they both laughed at it.

makes me wonder if Chris Rock been on Will’s hit list for years.

because will got snubbed for his role in concussion.

that was the #oscarssowhite year.

it had to be a special set up of circumstances for Will to do that this. those circumstance were Chris Rock.

im not sure why people would even feel the need to reach that deep for a hypothetical and remove all context.

and didnt he slap a white comedian on a red carpet somewhere when dude tried to kiss him?

he wouldn't have done this to anyone else. maybe it was built up from years ago.

yup, he did slap that guy. different circumstances, tho he also felt disrespected there.

he had to sit through several disrespectful jokes from other people but somehow the safest negro in the room was the last straw.

I really don't understand what this questions is getting at

there's several factors that made it significant, race and gender being the biggest ones. Why not play with the scenario a lil bit. you're not gonna die.

This reminds me that I need to read the book on that stuff

.

Headline from some right wing newspaper coming soon....

Or

Super wealthy immune from laws....

Or

Black on black crime nets highest awards by Hollyweird's elites.


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I listened to the ?uestlove Supreme with Will and this didn't really surprise me in the least.

But why did it have to be so near to ?uestlove's Oscar?

For making fun of him. You're on the wrong side if you think the right aren't the ones that want comedians to shut up. Will Smith was on his Fox News with that bullshit. Him being black is what is making you think its the other way around.

And they'll be referencing this event for a long long time and inflating the importance of it, all the while showing video tape of two of the most respected black actor/comedians of the last 30 years involved as what they'll characterize as the normalization of black on black crime by the liberal elites.

It's a shit show.

(It's not like the right wouldn't just make something up if this didn't happen - but this is in HD - maybe even 4k.)

Why this didn't surprise me: Will Smith has been so rich and so famous for so long and is talking that (crazy to me) self help and enlightenment talk that *I feel* (without evidence) that it's a scam people run on themselves as a coping mechanism to actually suppress stuff.

A single slap here isn't the end of the world.
Will looks like he can't control his emotions.
The academy looks stupid for not ejecting him.

I'd watch a series where they all go to counseling and talk it out.

"Will Smith has been so rich and so famous for so long and is talking that (crazy to me) self help and enlightenment talk that *I feel* (without evidence) that it's a scam people run on themselves as a coping mechanism to actually suppress stuff."

And i feel like i can be applied to alot of people who think they are enlightened but are actually suppressing what they feel...until its too late.

>
>But why did it have to be so near to ?uestlove's Oscar?

He got over his wife getting banged but couldn’t handle the jokes? He’s a weird insecure Hollywood pussy just like the rest of them.

when I heard the news, this morning was this...I watch this opening a few times a month, easy. Chris was cooking.
https://youtu.be/kqhVNZgZGqQ?t=162

.

headed up by will packer.

Like doesn't this make all black people look bad? Which I get but I don't necessarily feel.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

is this type of behavior a first at award shows other than the source awards? people can buy into the notion if they choose but it definitely doesnt bolster our image lol

Just too mean spirited in his jokes for people who didn't come to see him.

Like the casual swipe at the dude from 15's team is the kind of thing he does that makes you wince.

Not an excuse for Will.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

was that too mean ?

Why can't people discuss a topic without whataboutism anymore??? Do you have a response for what he said other than what about Ricky Gervais?

Go to reply 105 and stop overreacting.

this sounded like “leave white people ALONE!”

I do GAF about people moving goalposts though. Not every fucking argument has to be "what if they were white? or white people did it too" We need a better measuring stick than that when talking AMONGST OURSELVES. That's my fucking point. Can't we just fully discuss something before it immediately goes into the white curve.

but this wasn’t the Black Image Awards or BET Awards

there are way too many examples of comedians roasting people at the Oscars.

But the altercation was between 2 black men. So why don't we keep it there for the time being instead of going into white hypothetical land.

And I am a person who loves roasts. Difference there is people sign up for it. It's what people come to see. Same with correspondence dinner.

But this just doesn't seem like the right format.

And there are ways to make fun of people that isn't necessarily mean spirited humor.


The Oscar room also seems like the weirdest room too. Like the room will go along with anything that is going on stage and laugh or support without knowing what they are doing. Like the way they gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

It's low hanging fruit.

a lot of these people take themselves way too seriously. if they can't laugh at themselves for a few seconds in a setting where they're spending hours congratulating each other, i think its says a lot.

i'm speaking in generalities of course. there's always a line.

but, I think that's more of the setup, with the GG. He and other hosts even roast the Hollywood Foreign Press and it's their joint.

That's why GG brought him back.

wasn't he just a presenter?

i didn't watch the show

If memory serves me correct, Sean Penn wanted to run down Chris Rock over some Jude Law jokes when Chris Rock actually hosted the Oscars years ago.

I wonder how close Sean Penn got to actually being close enough to run Chris Rock down.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

then brought it up when he presented. it was corny as hell.

i had heard they squashed it behind stage though. I never heard Penn wanted to fight him or anything like that though

They hired Chris Rock to be edgy for the Oscars because people complained about the vanilla-ness of it. He was just doing what they asked. I dont think he's a hurtful person. Even Gervais isnt as "viscous" as his Globes hosting. They're just doing what was asked. "Hey make it super edgy."

How might the reaction differ there?

If white guy smacks black guy, the blow back would be worst.

If black guy smacks white guy, social media outrage might be less but career blowback might be worst.

If black guy smacks, woman, definitely bad all around.

If black woman, smacks guy. Not as bad social media, probably very bad career wise.

If white woman smacks black guy, bad social media, maybe not so much career wise.


I could be wrong but what does any of it prove or mean?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

he never would've gotten to receive that Oscar.

But was ok for him to attack another black man and party afterwards.

https://youtu.be/kqhVNZgZGqQ?t=176

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGmZRWb4aj0

Post-Fight Thoughts:

1. He wouldn't have slapped Jerry Seinfeld (Career gone.)
2. Or Ellen (Hate Crime, "Domestic" Violence, Career gone.)
3. Or THE Rock (Ass totally kicked.)
4. Damn, why it gotta be two Black Men? :-/
5. "When Keepin' It Real Goes Wrong" #WWPD (What Would Pac Do?)
6. I didn't hear a "slap sound" though (Just a "Mic Bump") Hmm...
7. Did Will's hand ever *Really* connect? #SloMoCamNeeded #ALIthough :-/
8. Why they both smiling and how did Rock never rub his face?
9. They're both actors so it's probably "staged" (Will "laughed" at the joke at first...)
10. We gonna be talking about this shit for years.......

Assuming it's real, I think once Will saw Jada's face and heard the crowd's reaction, he was immediately thrown into a "Damn, I'm Never Gonna Live This Down If I Don't Get Gangsta" moment -- Which was further amplified by Rock's Oscar jokes on *Both* of them years ago. Will probably feels like he's always been living in Pac's Shadow and didn't wanna hear Jada's Mouth later, so he probably felt like "Damned if I do, Damned if I don't......" (But Damn, even *SUGE* didn't slap a n!gga at The Source Awards........) :-/

i def at first thought it was staged for that reason

>8. Why they both smiling and how did Rock never rub his face?

you ever like slap hands with your boys after your team just scored and it kinda it hurts but you don't wanna rub your hand in front of everyone? lol

that's not much to feel good about if you played Ali

thing....

How folks are not able to distinguish the very real symbolism behind a smack vs. a punch is very concerning...

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cBRfjcY9SQ

.....This ain't the first time Will slapped someone.

Cuz twitter basically has her decrepit in a wheelchair with aids, cancer, covid and Alzheimer’s Someone even said disability. She’s not even sick, Twitter needs to calm down.

i know it's not comparable to say, someone going through chemo but i could see how it could be triggering

but i think it's pretty clear it was just a hairstyle joke. and it's not like GI jane is such a horrible thing to be called.

Makes you realize how ridiculous this whole thing is. Its not a shocker that women go bald as well. You would think so with the way the world is acting like she is dying and cant walk.

Black Women: Will being a real man defending his lady
Black Men: Jada Toxic, got Will acting crazy
Black People: White folks, mind yall business.
White People: The Violence!
Also White People: We need a US enforced no flyzone in Ukraine!
White Men: Now if a White Guy had done that he'd be canceled so fast!
White Women: Let me tell you how this black man slapping another black man is so triggering to ME!

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

How great is this lol:
https://www.theonion.com/reporter-who-found-3-angry-tweets-about-issue-guesses-t-1846829586

How did i miss that phase of their relationship? Ha.

They were obviously in a cult

1. They are Scientologist

2. Jada is going bald and that is the reason she keeps her hair short.

Lmao

They flirted with the organization and are pretty close to other celebs who are in it. I think some of that weird, spacey, philosophical stuff they talk about may even have Scientology roots.

But they are not full-fledged, all-in Scientologists.

https://twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1508448796979736587

Absolutely nuts.

the supposed role Scientology played in this:

https://tonyortega.org/2022/03/28/no-will-smith-was-not-high-on-scientology-when-he-slugged-chris-rock-at-the-oscars/


It's a pain in the ass to swipe, due to the formatting.

Pressure bust pipes man. I think we're going to see more and more of this too.

The think pieces are all over the place today and it really just comes down to a man doubling down on his decisions to ride out a very public and very open messy marriage. It's not for us to judge their love but they opened themselves up to the commentary (or comedy depending on your level of fuck it).

End of the day, they both hood dudes that know what's up and probably will be drinking beers together in the near future laughing at everyone overanalyzing a pretty basic concept of masculinity.



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Basic concept of the world is you don't physically assault people that aren't physically assaulting you.

where they do that at?

Black men don’t get down like that.

Im black and i teach at a school for at risk black teenagers and the amount of fights and MURDERS we have that have literally started over words is mind boggling. That mentality you have is one of the reasons black violence and death is at such a high level. Its not tough to do the shit he did and its not white people shit to not resort to violence if someone isn't physically attacking you. You're a moron.

The concept should be don't talk reckless to people who have the ability to physically assault you.

the key word is STARTED. you can't blame somebody for how they react.

I'm not saying Will is 100% right, but when Will finally snaps at jokes that you participated in, you can't go "violence isn't the answer" after niggas spent the last few years laughing at his expense

"Hey man i'm not on that white people shit. They were talking reckless so i turned it from a verbal confrontation to a physical confrontation. It's cool though, OKP said that's the black thing to do."

I take martial arts and teach my kids to defend themselves. In no world will i teach them "its some white people shit if you dont punch someone that is saying something mean to you."

Absolutely dumb logic. Mind boggling dumb, actually.

What I said was you can't blame somebody for how they react. Joking on Will and his situation was fair game but when he get fed up and react niggas is up in arms.

He could have took it on the chin like Chris did. Or he could have did what he did today. It's up to him to deal with what comes. But YOU can't throw rocks at a beehive and then denounce them for stinging you

I have HUGE respect for you and the work you do and fundamentally, I agree with what you are saying, in regards to just attacking folk...BUT, you (not you, specifically) cannot and should not expect that everyone else lives by the same creed. It's super possible that something reckless you say, could get your jaw tapped. I have two sons and that's what I teach them. Keep your hands to yourself and don't go around talking slick, because someone could go in your mouth or worse, over just words. Protect yourself at all times (c)Mills Lane...but, don't go looking for shit.

that shit he talking is why white people be getting punched out on camera all the time.

if you don't resort to making a situation physical.

talk about a man’s wife and all bets are off.

Not saying Will is right but he straight clowned Jada at 2 Oscar awards.

Back in the day my crew had to go to juvenile court for punching a white classmate who was talking reckless about a friends dead parent. His mom told a room full of Black parents his kid can say whatever he wants.. all our parents were like “and he can get phucked up too”

Disrespect was met with a light correction, not actual physical harm. No more no less.
I’m sure Sam and Denzel and them got them both together after the fact or will at some point in the future

Rock: What did I say?
Will: The Rhianna panties joke
Rock: I said that? Its jokes man.. I just be sayin’ shit
Will: Why you think Jada had depression and that entanglement?
Rock: Damn? You trying to put that on me? Cmon nigga
Will: I know I know.. but I cant get divorced. All Eyez On Me (mocking Pac)


Will: Why don’t she love me man?

Roll new Bel Air credits..

>Will: Why don’t she love me man?
>
>Roll new Bel Air credits..

That wasn't the Hood when he was growing up in the 60s, 70s and early 80s.

>probably will be drinking beers together in the near future
>laughing at everyone overanalyzing a pretty basic concept of
>masculinity.


I actually think Chris Rock is one of the most down-to-earth people in Hollywood. He's like a regular person who happens to be famous, understand the concept of everyday, working class people feeling completely separate from the "rich" and seems to relate more to the former. Will doesn't seem like that kind of person to me. He's disconnected. This is why he'll say shit like "just make a decision and your life will change." Whereas Chris Rock would say something along the lines of your bills not stopping because of a decision.

I say that to say them niggas not about to kick it like that over beers. Will gon talk some fake deep spiritual shit about the power of love and healing and Chris gon talk the reality of his jaw healing from that slap.

is to too roast the audience. Everyone knows that.

What Will Smith did was unprofessional and inhumane, and he deserves
a serious asswhooping.

You don’t slap or touch someone over an award show, especially an
award show that is designed to poke fun at its members.

The Oscars used to be a show and award of substance, but now its
just as insignificant as all the other award shows.

Slapping a man is a very demeaning act, and it is worse than a punch.
Much respect to Chris Rock for continuing on with the show, and making sure
that Questlove was properly honored.

If I were an entertainer I would best the shit out of him for Chris. A dude focked
your wife in your own bed, and you did nothing but look like a punk at a red
table....

If I’m Rock, I’m getting a Netflix deal and just going all in on Will and Jada and airing out all of their corny shit in a comedy special.

>"The Oscars used to be a show and award of substance, but now its
>just as insignificant as all the other award shows."

Come on man, it was never that especially if you are not white.

That shit is really the end all be all to them. It's such a big deal to them. It is not the Espys.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I seriously doubt that was the first jokes told that night in bad taste.

Hosts/MCs have always roasted or made fun of stars at award shows...

That was Joan Rivers entire routine when hosting award shows.


Here is Steve Martin and Baldwin roasting Meryl Streep at the oscars
about having threesomes and hitler memorabilia. ...Yeah, because
“white people take the oscars seriously”...lol

https://youtu.be/kBZj7qIOAE8

They even made fun of Lebron’s hairline last night at the Oscars.


You guys probably never heard of Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis, Don Rickles,
Carol Burnett, etc.....master roasters.

People love to make up stuff to support their narrative in this era.

for Questlove.

I am so reminded when they won the Grammy, Moby said something slick that kind of distracted from the moment.

I didn't watch 15's speech until this morning and it was deeply genuinely moving and got me misting up (and was so much more honest then WIll Smith's emotional speech).

I think its a brand worth embracing though, dudes have been quietly doing great things and building a tremendous legacy while all these stars around them might be more visible but burn out well before they do.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

i just saw one that was like "What if he slapped Betty White?"

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/view-sunny-hostin-calls-smith-163718426.html

The Daily Beast

‘The View’s’ Sunny Hostin Calls Out Will Smith’s ‘Toxic Masculinity’

Matt Wilstein

Mon, March 28, 2022, 12:37 PM


The hottest topic in the country was also the number one “Hot Topic” on The View Monday morning. But not all of the co-hosts agreed about how much blame Will Smith deserved for smacking comedian Chris Rock in the face on live television during the Oscars.

Moderator Whoopi Goldberg, a former Oscar winner and host, reserved her judgment on the incident until the end of the show’s opening segment, ceding the stage to her co-hosts, including Joy Behar, whose first reaction was, “Comedians are in danger everywhere.”

Ana Navarro and Sunny Hostin took the situation even more seriously, calling Smith’s actions what they were.

“Hitting somebody is a crime, it is the crime of assault on national TV,” Navarro said. As “lame” as Rock’s joke about Jada Pinkett Smith’s lack of hair (due to alopecia) might have been, she added, “nothing—nada—zero condones violence in this form.”

“I was embarrassed for Will, I was horrified for Chris Rock,” Hostin added, noting that Smith apologized to the Academy and his fellow nominees, but not the man he hit. “I thought Chris was the one that deserved an apology for taking the high road.”

“I think Will was immature, I think he was childish and he was violent,” she continued. “That’s something we tell our children not to do, our children would be suspended from school for doing something like that.”


Hostin ultimately called Smith’s actions a “show of toxic masculinity,” suggesting that the actor may have “felt emasculated” by the jokes that host Regina Hall made at the expense of his marriage earlier in the show as well. “That is not a show of love,” she said, quoting Smith’s acceptance speech, “this is a show of violence.”

Goldberg meanwhile, appeared to be making some excuses for Smith’s behavior, noting that his anger had obviously “built up” after many years of jokes about his family. “I think he overreacted,” she said. “I get it. Not everybody acts the way we would like them to act under pressure. Some people just snap, and he snapped.”

At the same time, she said it was “remarkable” and “wonderful” that Rock “did not take it to that other place it could have gone,” adding, “I don’t know if they spoke or apologized or not. All I know is sometimes you get to a point and you behave badly. I myself have behaved badly on occasion.”

And when Hostin said she was “surprised” Smith “was not escorted out” and instead received a semi-standing ovation when he won his first Oscar—and wondered aloud if the Academy will let him keep his award, Goldberg pushed back.

“We’re not going to take that Oscar from him,” Goldberg said, apparently speaking for the Academy. “There will be consequences I’m sure, but I don’t think that’s what they’re going to do, particularly because Chris said, ‘Listen, I’m not pressing any charges.’”

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I hope he ultimately finds his way.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbqmaY1p7Pz/

Word is Chris did too, but I can't find it.

...got to apologize.

Always can slip, trip

He can go sit in his guilt for a little while. It’s high time he figures out how worth it his sham marriage really is, because it ruined the biggest night of his professional life.

something tells me this show is gonna be GOOD

Rock might have snatched the crown from Charlie Murphy for best all time smack-ee

>Rock might have snatched the crown from Charlie Murphy for
>best all time smack-ee

The day after the oscars haha. Tickets are going for over $400 now, from what I understand. I'm assuming you got your tix prior to the spike haha.

i wondered when that was going to come to a head.

this was so blatantly fake and staged

i side eyed what appeared to be a kind of holding-it-in smirk on his face when he walked way after the slap but..

why on the night where he's about to receive the highest honor of his acting career would Will smith decide to pull a WWE stunt?

one that makes him... a guy who's pretty universally liked, look pretty terrible

and then all but spoil/soil such important moments for Quest, and the William's sisters.

Chris Rock can suddenly act?

I know a lot of people are saying this is fake but haven't seen any logic behind it other than people saying it looks fake.


>this was so blatantly fake and staged

but some reasons I thought/think it might be fake..

its great publicity for the Oscars

It ruins the moment for Richard Williams recognition

It ruins the first Black produced Oscars

>>It ruins the moment for Richard Williams recognition

>>It ruins the first Black produced Oscars


It WOULD be easy to fake a slap but I just think it would've been such a dumb thing to plan by 2 people that have been so calculated with their careers (particularly Will) that it has to be genuine.

this shit was staged.

When I look at the vide and the breakdown it doesn’t add up.

Rock has his hands behind his back the whole time and then LEANS IN before the smack.

Then Will walks back calmly with a smirk knowing Rock won’t retaliate? Shit was staged.

and why would they do it? Because its Hollywood.

he (seemingly) has had alot of love and good things to say about Richard and the whole williams fam...and as for the oscars hes spent his whole adult life cultivating his image/reputation and his craft...just doesnt add up. but crazier shit has happened

>It ruins the moment for Richard Williams recognition
>
>It ruins the first Black produced Oscars
>
>

not just social media, but everywhere

Hollywood is its own clique and two inner-circle members can do this kind of stunt without consequence

I think y'all place too much importance on what you think these people care about, versus what they actually do

Will helped stage something that basically said fuck Quest, fuck the Williams family, and fuck Will Smith because it will dominate the news for a few days, and Hollywood is cliquey?

Sometimes crazy wtf just happened shit actually just happens. Most events are uneventful, then Tyson bites an ear off

>not just social media, but everywhere
>
>Hollywood is its own clique and two inner-circle members can
>do this kind of stunt without consequence
>
>I think y'all place too much importance on what you think
>these people care about, versus what they actually do

Chris had no idea it was coming. He was smiling all the way until contact. Shit was fucked up.

Mark Manson happens to be Will's co-author on autobiography. Perhaps, Will might want to thumb through that a lil bit.

what anybody has to say about her bald head.

https://twitter.com/fatyoshiboobs/status/1508540989396430853

What a mess.

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They just say words that have no meaning all the time.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

it negates itself the second you say it to someone.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CbqkVLSlJvH/?utm_medium=copy_link

I thought it was going to be a false flag for Ukraine but pedo stuff is an oldie but goodie.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

like they legit believe this shit adds to their credibilty, instead of just looking like self-parody

Esp When you consider the history of stand up. The environment we are in now deems this act itself not that big a deal I guess.

It feels like we are headed down a dark path with especially stand up comedy. I’ll let you make your own grim predictions on the precedent being set here.

After they let him remain in the audience, chill for rest of the show, accept an award, danced at the after parties, and allowed him to give rambling five min speech. Oscars have major decisions to make. People are making excuses for Will Smith but the stand up comics, outside of a couple, seem to be in agreement on how fucking ridiculous it is that nothing was done during or after.

including any future consideration for any awards.

i dont know if it should be indefinitely or for like 10 years but it should be pretty substantial.

im not even someone who is all up in arms with the hot takes and reaches invoking domestic violence against women or potential manslaughter or whatever.

but they have to set a clear precedent. you just cant hit someone at the show. especially coming up on stage and hitting the host. that should be the biggest no no in the code of conduct (and probably one they never expected to ever have to address).

I'm not one of those "but he could have killed him with that punch" either. But i agree, you have to set the standard of "you cannot walk on stage and physically hit a presenter." I know we live in weird times after the Trump years but we cant just become numb to crazy shit.

I think a fair punishment I've seen mentioned is not letting Will present next year (winner's usually get to present an award the following year).

Or ban him from the show for a couple years.

I'd assume anything he creates in the future is going to get quietly disregarded for a long time.

But you start stripping Oscars for THIS and you're going to have to explain why slapping a host is more egregious than using your power in the industry to harass, intimidate and rape women.

Like somehow the integrity of the show is more important than the integrity of the industry the show celebrates.

that the code of conduct covers.

like if the heisman winner punches one of the presenters...im not sure he gets to keep that trophy lol.

>that the code of conduct covers.
>
>like if the heisman winner punches one of the presenters...im
>not sure he gets to keep that trophy lol.

That's a pretty good summation. I had a problem with the Oscar committee taking the award away at first because they still gained viewership from having Will accept the award and give his speech, but him violating the standards while the show took place should be reason enough to give him whatever punishment they deem acceptable.

I have to think the folks behind the scenes completely hate how much the smack is overshadowing anything and everything that took place on Sunday.

seems more appropriate IMO.

If they'd denied Will in the moment, I still wouldn't have agreed but I could understand a snap emotional decision against him for making an emotional decision himself.

After the fact, I think you have time to be more nuanced and find the appropriate punishment.

like no disrespect og i just never seen such neighborhood watch energy before.

hecklers and people getting mad and approaching the stage has been baked into the game for a while now.

especially the black standup comedy scene.

theres plenty of stories/footage of people getting roughed up or knocked out tryna step to a performer.

Source: I go to about a hundred comedy shows a year.

Outside of the major venues (like The Forum, etc) - it's pretty rare to have real SECURITY at one.

the overwhelming majority of stand up happens at the smaller venues which have little to no security in my experience as well


>Outside of the major venues (like The Forum, etc) - it's
>pretty rare to have real SECURITY at one.

you can't even have a cell phone at those shows

Major venues - Staples Center, etc. or for A-list comics where they take phones - yes, there's security as there would be at a music venue.

But comedy clubs? Nope. No security. At best you have a comedian who works there to get spots - and they don't get paid to intervene with a fan who rushes the stage.

.

smh

Seems like a perfect opportunity for a guy like you to point out our gun violence problem

The dark path is murderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

How about come up with actual material that doesn't rely on embarrassing one of your peers?

the stuffy/uppity hollywood celebs get their egos knocked down for one night with a good roasting.

99% of the jokes everyone laughs.

like 1 person every few years makes news for getting their panties in a bunch.

nobody ever slaps the fucking comedians lol.

we dont need to throw the baby out with the bath water because 1 person lost his composure.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Everybody knows its ridiculous with the amount of award shows or hollywood giving themselves awards. The reaction to the boredom was to start hiring comedians that dont give a shit and will roast the audience. Ricky Gervais was BRUTAL and no one came on the fucking stage. Will Smith is just a weirdo trapped in a toxic relationship.

Like I don't think anyone at any time, thought he was in any real danger, even Chris Rock after getting slapped.


I've been smacked by a grown man after something I said in like the last 3 years. Ended a friendship but never thought I was in serious harms way , did not think to get the police involved, and I am not walking around scared of dude.

I think the idea that this makes it NOW open season on Comedians is doing too much.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

>Like I don't think anyone at any time, thought he was in any
>real danger, even Chris Rock after getting slapped.
>
>
>I've been smacked by a grown man after something I said in
>like the last 3 years. Ended a friendship but never thought I
>was in serious harms way , did not think to get the police
>involved, and I am not walking around scared of dude.
>
>I think the idea that this makes it NOW open season on
>Comedians is doing too much.
>
>
>
>

way too much

The space that stand up comedians have historically occupied is… undergoing a change. That’s the crux of my personal concern here.

I agree that Rock was never in any real danger. But the concern is bigger than this singular incident. Stand up comedy happens in Venues across this country every day.

I see nothing that would stop an audience member at one of these smaller venues from doing the same thing will did.

The Columbia incident with Nimesh Patel comes to mind: https://youtu.be/tcICkrR6AYY


RIP Lenny Bruce

I bet if he threatened Rock on twitter or instagram you would treat it seriously.

yesterday. from i wish someone would run up and slap the hell out of _____, to things like youre next bitch!

and while the idea of ChiChi_so_much LUV (they/them) from twitter actually, buying chappelle tickets and trying to run up on Dave on stage, seems pretty far fetched, there are a handful of people who get egged on by shit like this, especially if they think they have so much support.

After your showing in the Tulsi and Vladimir Putin posts, I can’t take you seriously.

I would probably be desperate for any semblance of a win too if I were in your shoes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbqTYdCFLWi/

https://twitter.com/DavidBrentMovie/status/1508404231132307459

Nothing I've seen or heard, especially here, is concerned for her at all.

I hope she's ok.

d

I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, and we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody wants us to say, is wasting our time on this Earth - C. Adichie

soon

three wealthy people had a lil moment and we're treating this like someone caught a body on stage

i saw a journalist compare will smith to willy horton.

this is really insane.

wealth doesn't erase or replace humanity & emotions.

d

I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, and we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody wants us to say, is wasting our time on this Earth - C. Adichie

and responding with "these are just jokes! come on!"

https://twitter.com/JustinMacmahan/status/1508490169502113806

>and responding with "these are just jokes! come on!"
>
>https://twitter.com/JustinMacmahan/status/1508490169502113806

"Vessel of love"

when is saw it was an arsenio clip, i was like c'mon, man

plus it's a dude.

but do remember one time when someone made fun of his wife at the oscars and he laughed right in front of her

.

https://kareem.substack.com/p/will-smith-did-a-bad-bad-thing

hard to argue with any of that.

It was too much.

> The Black community also takes a direct hit from Smith. One of the
> main talking points from those supporting the systemic racism in
> America is characterizing Blacks as more prone to violence and less
> able to control their emotions. Smith just gave comfort to the enemy
> by providing them with the perfect optics they were dreaming of. Fox
> News host Jeanine Pirro wasted no time going full-metal jacket racist
> by declaring the Oscars are “not the hood.” What would she have said
> if Brad Pitt slapped Ricky Gervais? This isn’t Rodeo Drive? Many will
> be reinvigorated to continue their campaign to marginalize African
> Americans and others through voter suppression campaign.

Racists are gonna be racist regardless. We gotta stop being so concerned with what white folks think, as if they're the arbiters of decency.


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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Good for him. Hope he makes a ton of bank off of Will Smith's dumb ass.

https://www.insider.com/sales-for-chris-rocks-show-skyrocket-after-oscars-slap-2022-3

https://youtu.be/YNVtCNDePz4

https://youtu.be/_Qo0SkwMPlY?t=710

A key part, but this whole video was deep.......

(Admittedly tho the fist part was interesting. Rock was def about to throw back. Interesting that he caught himself so quickly, I wouldn't have lol)

>(Admittedly tho the fist part was interesting. Rock was def
>about to throw back. Interesting that he caught himself so
>quickly, I wouldn't have lol)

Bed-Stuy almost came out, but like it was said years of doing stand-up made him a quick thinker on his feet, also Will quickly turned and walked away, initially it probably wasn't clear if the attack would continue

I guess people react different, sad to see Will getting humiliated by his wife

If Chris knew about Jada's alopecia and her feelings about it, and made the joke anyway, that's (IMO) out of pocket and unnecessarily cruel.

If Chris—like me and many others—didn't know about her condition, he made a lame joke about her haircut. Given the situational context of the celebrity roast-fest Oscars, I don't think that's a slappable offense.

Because Will acted in the moment and spoke with his hands first, he didn't have time to confront Chris and find out whether further action was warranted.


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"a joke about my wife's medical condition was too much for me to bear"(after i stopped laughing)

but the joke wasn't "Jada hair all falling out, looking like GI Jane and shit"

it was a joke referencing an attractive woman who willingly shaved her head do do badass shit.

i think because Jada has been open about it they just assume everyone knows

>it was a joke referencing an attractive woman who willingly
>shaved her head do do badass shit.

We don't know what Chris knew, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he wasn't aware of Jada's alopecia. I could certainly be wrong about that. The point is, give a motherfucker the opportunity to be wrong before you go pulling out your dueling gloves and shit.

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Jada in that interview posted above saying she dgaf what people think like she's taking it in stride. Willow shaved her head as well.. it's possible he knew that and was like "Go on, GI Jane"

but the "making fun of alopecia" narrative that a lot of people (including the Smiths) are running with seems really unlikely imo

He was just making a short hair cut joke. Possibly a bad ass female, like GI Jane, short hair joke. But it helps people make an excuse for Will Smith being a moron simp because they've never liked Chris Rock and want to accuse him of making a disease joke. It's lame revisionism.

>Jada in that interview posted above saying she dgaf what
>people think like she's taking it in stride. Willow shaved
>her head as well.. it's possible he knew that and was like "Go
>on, GI Jane"

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/two-americas-debating-will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-slap/629407/

QUOTE: "Black people are conditioned to believe that we deserve respect, admiration, and recognition of our humanity based only on good behavior. But Smith’s overreaction does not reflect on anyone but him, and the suggestion that our community should feel any measure of collective shame is completely misguided. Nor should we feed into the dehumanizing stereotype that Smith’s conduct is typical for Black people."

its annoying how everything always turns into a racial discussion of black vs white , rather than just simply discussing what happened

if true, this makes me even more upset.

No memory of images of positive Black males are going to be remembered at this years Oscars.

Just Will and Rock.

Danny Glover got one and it wasn't televised.

not to elevate Will and Rock but to overshadow all the other great things Black people were doing that night.

That slap just felt so choreographed.

and it happen right before Quest got his award.

Go back a couple decades when Marlon Brandon sent the Native American to protest, she said in an interview they had six security men holding John Wayne back from trying to get at her.

https://www.thefocus.news/culture/john-wayne-sacheen-littlefeather/

I know Will was in the audience and in the front but even after the slap Will was still there and went to after parties, like he knew nothing would happen.

check it here..

https://twitter.com/ProjectMememar/status/1508316452104855553?s=20&t=iqcGD0AZ0lfX4E42-xn-aw

and for this to happen after all the protest about how white the oscars have been.. with a Black production crew.

The first time I heard about it, my first thought was it's a fake slap for ratings.

I will say the barking is what made me think it wasn’t fake..

but the actual slap never looked natural. The way Rock chilled and stepped towards Will while exposed gives it away.

https://youtu.be/jQlpKbQnWpQ

That was all I saw at first was the slap without the rest, and it didn't look natural.

anything is possible, but I don't get fake from that slow mo. what I do get is that it was a weak ass slap. my guess is that was probably intentional so as not to hurt the dude, but to just send a message.

Chris Rock's face often looks like he is bracing to get slapped, I'll give you that.

But why did he keep his hands behind his back? Who keeps their hands behind their back as someone runs up on you??

I dunno.

I don't think the show staged it, but maybe it was something between Will and Chris to try and make Will look like a tough guy or some shit.

Even though it accomplished the exact opposite IMO

On the other hand, Chris really seemed like he bit his tongue on unloading on this cornball and he isn't a good actor.

Weird.

It's Will Smith. They have a professional relationship at the very least and they at the Oscars. Chris didn't think he was a threat. Neither did I when I saw him go up there.

If it was a nigga on the street it would have been a whole lot different

he probably thought it was gonna be some funny why..you.. fake choking gesture but it turned out to be a slap

the only thing that gave me pause was the smirk as he walked off... but again, this is a super easy thing to stage, but it makes no sense on Will's part... or Chris for that matter.

ppl watching this like the plane hitting the pentagon lol

it's obv an easy enough thing to stage..

but why do Will and Chris want to overshadow the accomplishments of black people at the first black produced oscar show. on the night of Will's oscar.

did Ray Donovan show up at their house or something?

and Will was able to stay at the show and won an award like 15 minutes later.

Dude slaps the shit out of Rock and then prolly had 3X as many eyes on his acceptance speech.

No one came to assist Rock or to usher Will off. Just kept the show going like nothing happened and THAT is normal to yall?

dude is dancing with his trophy after the show and taking photos and shit.

cmon

So Will and Rock willingly agreed to say Fuck the Williams family, Fuck Quest, fuck the first Black produced Oscars, fuck my big night that culminates 3 decades of acting...

because people are gonna tune in and social media and the View are gonna talk bout it all week!

rather than a dude got mad at a joke when his wife looked at him in and overreacted... nah no way.

you're not thinking clearly, bro

and then he implies he is just like Richard Williams.

That nigga long gone b.. lol

You'd think he'd be preparing to look mad for the cameras, being an actor and all.

It wasn't staged. That theory is bogus on its face for a million different reasons.

You think this is normal?

lmao

legs is talking about how "gone" will is, as though this isn't the sort of shit someone who is "gone" would do, while also talking about how well planned this was.

He can't even get his conspiracies to harmonize.

>You think this is normal?
>
>lmao
>
>legs is talking about how "gone" will is, as though this isn't
>the sort of shit someone who is "gone" would do, while also
>talking about how well planned this was.
>
>He can't even get his conspiracies to harmonize.

Yeah you really got this one all figured out

Now tell us about how the moon landing was staged

>ppl watching this like the plane hitting the pentagon lol

especially from tough guy, Willard Carroll Smith II.

you'll slap someone like you're in a movie

and that's what happened

Will Smith's never been in a real fight dogg cmon, just chasing aliens and shit.

I don't have time to respond to everyone but essentially-


I'm only pointing out that I do think it is odd that Chris kept his hands behind his back the entire time.

Maybe I'm a nervous guy or some shit, but I make a joke about your wife and you unexpectedly walk on stage...I'm at least bracing for a "why I oughta!" type thing.

Just standing there with your hands behind your back seems extremely unnatural to me.


Ultimately I think its real because Chris clearly wanted to unload the clip of jokes and held back.


I just think Will is enough of an insecure weirdo to set this up with Chris to look tough..esp to Jada.

Either he is a fucking weirdo who set up a fake slap to fake defend his wife OR

he is a fucking weirdo who overreacted to the situation, and produced a slap that didn't even phase Chris Rock who is probably what... a buck 50? lol


Either way, Will is a lame ass weirdo.

>I'm only pointing out that I do think it is odd that Chris
>kept his hands behind his back the entire time.
>
>Maybe I'm a nervous guy or some shit, but I make a joke about
>your wife and you unexpectedly walk on stage...I'm at least
>bracing for a "why I oughta!" type thing.

.. and being friendly with him. Also, it was an internationally televised event. Also, Will laughed at the joke at first and I assume Rock noticed that, because he was looking right at them. So the combination of all those things may have led Rock to believe that Will was walking onto the stage to make a spectacle in good fun, or something.

Will, to my knowledge, isn't typically a confrontational dude (despite the clip from 2012 making the rounds of him smacking the journalist who tried to kiss him .. which to my mind is understandable haha) and Rock likely knows him well enough to think the same, having been around him for decades. So I'd imagine that Rock's *last* thought was that Will was walking up there to smack him upside the head.

I never thought it was staged. Doesn't even really make sense on any level.

like.. everything about this shit screams wtf.

Academy just let Will rock (pun intended) the rest of the night?

It wasn't staged. And it was wholly abnormal.

Not a single person.

pretty sure I asked a question

You've asked twice, and each time, the question is framed in a way that implies that you think people already thought that it's normal.

Nobody thinks it's normal.
Nobody has even suggested or implied that it was normal.

So it's just, you know, a dumb question to ask when nobody is saying this.

To be fair, I know that I'm not dealing with a person who reaches reasonable conclusions.

>Either he is a fucking weirdo who set up a fake slap to fake
>defend his wife OR
>
>he is a fucking weirdo who overreacted to the situation, and
>produced a slap that didn't even phase Chris Rock who is
>probably what... a buck 50? lol
>
>

I don't really think he was 'defending' his wife. seems more like trying to save face to look like he was defending her. Either way, insecure weirdo is a good description.

>I don't really think he was 'defending' his wife. seems more
>like trying to save face to look like he was defending her.

Perhaps in Will's mind he was defending Jada, but I agree that the slap may have been more about defending his own sense of manhood and not "looking like a punk," especially given the public emasculation and ridicule he's been subjected to for the past few years.


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At what point does Jada defend Will? She's remained silent this entire time as Will takes blame. This incident can cost Will his career but he finds himself seemingly alone.

His career is done at the upper echelon and now he comes to grips with the fact he doesn't have power at the real table. Will about to suffer for a whole decade.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CbvthnNquBP/?utm_medium=copy_link

Hard to find the words. Like she didn't even look at Will not for a second.

There's no way to tell what her eyes are looking at as he walks down, but she's facing his general direction.

Where you seeing her reaction to that ?

don't even know what to make of it lol

this shit weird af

staple and "will" remain the quintessential Summertime anthem IMHO

all these things can be true

Just top tier stupidity.

Everybody on the same page at all times.

From way out in … Macedonia

You have to believe it's the end of the world for comedians.

Don’t be the contrarian guy just cuz

talking about what happen does not make anyone a fan or enemy of those involved. The team stuff is silly.

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Questlove and 4 white guys? nigga I aint white!

damn, they fucked up the whole night.

It's too bad he deleted the tweets, but I guess he didn't want to get lumped into the whole drama more than he had to.

Someone in that thread said he told he same joke before the Oscars, but I'm not sure which joke they were talking about

So many angles from the small fraction of time it took for Chris Rock to let off those jokes.

Pretty interesting.

That was quick.

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Ticket sales skyrocketing $$$$
Standing ovation at his show
Being applauded for his restraint and handling of the situation on the spot
Comedians coming out in full support
News coming out that Will Smith refused to leave (cause he's full of shit)
Video of jada laughing and not even looking in her husbands direction, further proving she is toxic and also full of shit

Good! If you dont like a joke handle it like a professional after the show or on the side stage. You dont walk on stage in front of a live and world audience, hit someone in the face, and turn your back and enjoy the rest of the show like an entitled simp asshole.

https://youtu.be/eX-ZZi2p6ss

earlier this morning, Chris Rock did a stand show last night. He got a huge standing ovation from the crowd and brushed away tears from his eyes.

Pretty interesting response from a stand-up veteran like Chris Rock. I suppose that means the slap, along with the support he got from the crowd meant a great deal to him.

His response to the incident when he decides to speak on it in full should be quite interesting.

>I suppose that means the slap, along with the support he got from the crowd meant a great deal to him.

>His response to the incident when he decides to speak on it in full should be quite interesting.

LOL...poor Jada, what a witchhunt. You think she said "Get him Will!" or some shit? LOL.


"It’s the three seconds of tape that only Academy bosses have seen. Crucial unseen video showing what Jada Pinkett Smith said to Will Smith in the seconds before he charged the Oscars stage and slapped Chris Rock is central to the Academy of Motion Pictures’ investigation— but has yet to be publicly released, Radar has learned."

https://radaronline.com/p/academy-pressured-release-secret-video-will-smith-chris-rock-slap-oscars/

prolly had some trigger word on some Manchurian MKUltra steez

“eeewww Strawberries”

A little red Hydra book next to her...

And I can't front, I am hella curious what happened between Will laughing and marching to the stage.



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>And I can't front, I am hella curious what happened between
>Will laughing and marching to the stage.

they see public opinion turning against the smiths and theyre gonna milk that cow as long as they can.

just a constant drip feed of leaks, allegations, anecdotes, etc.

anything/everything that paints them as assholes, weirdos, deviants, etc.

if will was pissed about people shitting on him before...he just gave all of them a ton of new mileage.

this shit was a gold mine.

And typical.

Jada Pinkett is as bad as Nixon and Mark Fuhrman, well-placed Academy sources confirm.

My jaw dropped when I saw that line.

>if will was pissed about people shitting on him before...he
>just gave all of them a ton of new mileage.

about this whole mess is that this kicked off because Will overreacted in wanting to defend Jada Pinkett's name and shaved head. Now folks are chomping at the bit to kick more dirt on her strictly because of actions he took.

Cold world out there.

that folks that work for the Academy are releasing drips and drabs of information before they make their final decision on how to penalize Will so that his name is tarnished enough in the eye of public opinion so that their punishment looks like a fair one.

Not that I'm excusing Will of what he did, but it's interesting how all these backstage angles and such are coming to light when the Academy could have nipped the situation in the bud by booting Will from the arena when the incident occurred Sunday night.

>Not that I'm excusing Will of what he did, but it's
>interesting how all these backstage angles and such are coming
>to light when the Academy could have nipped the situation in
>the bud by booting Will from the arena when the incident
>occurred Sunday night.

I wonder whether the ppl involved in this decision-making knew that Will was going to win and whether that played any part in the decision not to remove him.

And that 100% played into the decision to not remove him. No question.

There is no way in hell the Academy would ever be able to explain away the double standard if they punish him with anything more severe than a reprimand.

he was was pretty much the frontrunner to win, so it's like, what happens then?

and it's probably also a thing where people are thinking ahead and no one wants to be the one who made the call to throw him out. like what if the ultimate narrative skewed towards Will and not Chris.

plus once he refused, do they want to make ANOTHER big scene by physically forcing him out... even off camera. No one wants to be the decider in all this.

those conversations seem kinda hilarious. shit probably played out like a comedy sketch in real time.

Like night of Will got a Standing O in the room.

Just a couple of days later sentiment is shifting hard against Will.

And you can just feel the Hollywood crowd trying to be on the right side of it. It's the reason so many have been silent on it.

Will needs to seek out Chris private and have a sit down with him and apologize, and then leak that to the press.





>he was was pretty much the frontrunner to win, so it's like,
>what happens then?
>
>and it's probably also a thing where people are thinking ahead
>and no one wants to be the one who made the call to throw him
>out. like what if the ultimate narrative skewed towards Will
>and not Chris.
>
>plus once he refused, do they want to make ANOTHER big scene
>by physically forcing him out... even off camera. No one wants
>to be the decider in all this.
>
>those conversations seem kinda hilarious. shit probably played
>out like a comedy sketch in real time.


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everyone is trying to save face.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/03/31/academy-lied-asking-will-smith-to-leave-oscars-slap-chris-rock/?adid=share-tw


Will Smith was NEVER asked to leave the Oscars after he slapped Chris Rock. In fact, the opposite is true -- he was told by the producer of the show he could stay ... this according to sources with direct knowledge who were present.

As you know by now, the Academy said Wednesday they had asked Will to leave the Dolby Theater after the slap but he refused. Three sources who were at the ceremony and witnessed various conversations tell TMZ ... yes, after the slap Academy officials were backstage with Will's reps and there were heated conversations about what had gone down.
will smith jada smith
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We're told there was a split among the officials ... some did want him booted, but others did not. There were various discussions during several commercial breaks, but they never reached a consensus.
TAKIN' NO DISRESPECT
ABC

We're told Will was aware there was talk about asking him to leave the theater. During one of the commercial breaks, we're told Oscars producer Will Packer walked up to Will and said, "We do not want you to leave" ... this according to our sources.
Will Smith Slaps Chris Rock At The Oscars
The Oscars Slap Launch Gallery
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Will Packer walked up to Will Smith just after 8 PM, around 35 minutes after the slap. That's when he told Will he could stay, according to our sources. Will won the Best Actor Award around 5 minutes later.
I'M A PROTECTOR
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It's interesting ... the Academy's first statement about the incident never even mentioned Will Smith by name. As the day went on and outrage grew, the Academy became more aggressive and went in hard on Smith, saying he took an aggressive stance and refused to leave.

https://twitter.com/willpowerpacker/status/1508307261604524034?s=20&t=C2OYYYdfDJUQTCKMcY46Ag

https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/new-video-shows-jada-laughing-after-will-smith-slapped-chris-rock/

"In a statement, Smith called his actions “shocking, painful and inexcusable” and said that he will accept any additional consequences that the Academy’s Board of Governors deems appropriate.

“The list of those I have hurt is long and includes Chris, his family, many of my dear friends and loved ones, all those in attendance, and global audiences at home,” Smith said. “I betrayed the trust of the Academy. I deprived other nominees and winners of their opportunity to celebrate and be celebrated for their extraordinary work. I am heartbroken.”


https://variety.com/2022/film/news/will-smith-resigns-academy-oscars-slap-chris-rock-1235221041/

he can still keeps his Oscar and can still be nominated..

just means he cant vote or nominate any films or actors for the Academy Awards

doesn’t mean shit.

So, no that doesn't mean he will def be able to attend the Oscars in 2023. Academy could ban him from being able to attend or be nominated when they're done with their decision. But i guess you're right, his decision doesn't do a whole lot. The academy hasnt had their say yet, though.

...are two different entities. You can be a member of one and not the other and it won't effect your eligibility to work on a major studio film.

and its a tradition for Best Actor to present an award the next year

so we WILL see if any if this means anything once the dust settles. m

Also weird how A Sharks Tale was advertised as a free movie on my Firestick Home screen.

Word on the street is the minimum expulsion time was a decade. A decade was the starting point, not the max but the start.

Now his punishment is more than likely worse. He should've done this immediately after the show ended. He should've left the venue when asked to say the least of things he should've done. The Academy got him on four violations to begin with. His career as A list talent is over due to this debacle.

https://www.facebook.com/180512242006402/photos/a.508939925830297/5231456690245240/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/was-chris-rock-s-oscar-joke-really-about-jada-pinkett-cheating-on-will-smith/ar-AAVVHQh

The reference of Demi Moore ("G.I. Jane" Actress) might've also been a jab at how both women enjoyed dating younger men.

Let's look back, Demi Moore left Bruce Willis for a younger Ashton Kutcher. In addition, we would later find out that Jada Pinkett was also unfaithful to Will during their break, enjoying time with a much younger counterpart as well, August Alsina. The singer is yet to hit his 30s while Jada is in her 50s.

As if things couldn't get any worse for the Smith family at the moment, August recently got involved, dropped a new track entitled, 'Shake The World' which makes reference to his time spent alongside Jada.

She divorced Bruce Willis in 2000 and separated in 1998.

So…as if this wasn’t ENOUGH of a reach…no.

but I also believe any joke is going to trigger Will or bring bak those dark days.

but even if the joke was about something else, it doesn't really change anything.

But I can all but guarantee that this wasn't even remotely the intent of the joke. It doesn't go beyond the fact that Jada's hair is similar to Demi Moore in a movie from 25 years ago (which is probably the go to reference for people of a certain age for women who are bald, I guess)

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Once that occurs, I have a feeling this will get in the news cycle again, for better or for worse.

>
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Do not pass go. Do not collect an award.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/academy-bans-will-smith-from-oscars-for-10-years/ar-AAW0vCh

they over cooked this chicken.

Their ratings have been abysmal up until the slap.

Besides, smith probably won't lose any sleep over it anyway.

i saw he can't participate in any events, but it didn't mention (or that i saw anyway) that he's banned from being nominated or winning, so i assume that's a possibility.

would be interesting if he did something so undeniable that he had be nominated, and then won.

After seeing that video Jada was taking where Will was asking her not to film him, I'm guessing he's thanking the Academy because that's at least 10 events he doesn't have to attend with Jada.

>i saw he can't participate in any events, but it didn't
>mention (or that i saw anyway) that he's banned from being
>nominated or winning, so i assume that's a possibility.
>
>would be interesting if he did something so undeniable that he
>had be nominated, and then won.
>
>After seeing that video Jada was taking where Will was asking
>her not to film him, I'm guessing he's thanking the Academy
>because that's at least 10 events he doesn't have to attend
>with Jada.

That would be something the Academy wouldn’t or couldn’t do.

Now he’ll effectively be neutered in winning one because he could not campaign for it at academy events. But he CAN get nominated.

The same night being both the highlight of his acting career and probable the death of his acting career.

That almost seems like a fictional movie in itself. Winning an Oscar award and murking himself in the same night.

Oh well.

I do wonder if I'm being hyperbolic in terms of big name studios not wanting to do business with him any more because of that ten year ban and the stigma that would get attached to anything he does going forward.

This dude has maybe the most carefully crafted image...from his clean raps, etc....to wanting to be Prez one day...etc


To just completely risk it all on what could have been a huuuge night for him...over a joke he was initially laughing at?


And his weird ass speech...dancing afterwards like nothing happened.


Strange shit.

But NONE of it was normal behavior.

It could be anything. But it being okay or normal is off the table.

... I can't possibly diagnose them of course, and this is all spec.

But all of what you said ... plus, Will sat back down, Chris said "Will Smith just smacked the shit outta me !", and Jada leaned over cracking up !

What on earth.

>... I can't possibly diagnose them of course, and this is all
>spec.
>
>But all of what you said ... plus, Will sat back down, Chris
>said "Will Smith just smacked the shit outta me !", and Jada
>leaned over cracking up !
>
>What on earth.

I forgot about that angle of her laughing! nothing about this is making sense...

I get the whole self-absorbed, weirdo celebrity thing...but when you think about his carefully cultivated image?

I'm leaning toward substances of some kind being involved the more I think about it.

Then again who participates in that weird video posted up above (of course I'm referring to Jada ambushing him...but why doesn't he just walk off?)


I've never wanted to understand something so trivial and meaningless in my life haha

>

Maybe three years max. But they are dealing with an unprecedented situation. I can see this biting them in the ass a few years down the road the next time something crazy happens.
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but.....

Fuck aliens.

boycott the Oscars.

Punishment is way too harsh

but aint no way Black folk are boycotting for Will.

Maybe 5 years from now after his divorce and tell all book

No one is going to have their career possibly linked to a man that walked on stage and hit a black man in the face over a joke. Punishment is fine. He gets to keep his Oscar. People should boycott Jada to get Will the fuck away from her.

I’m confused.

Dude can’t go to an award show.. that’s it.

oh, and can’t nominate anyone or vote on the awards.


That’s it. That’s all.

Now, I’m sure in Hollywood that is some serious punishment but FOH acting like Will is doing hard time or on house arrest and can’t leave the property unless its for work.

Dude is free as fuck and rich as hell. They did that man a favor. He doesn’t need to be out in public.

You know, to help the Oscars.

Because that makes sense.

Does this really seem normal to you?

If it’s not apparent enough - my reply was sarcastic. None of this is normal. And none of it was staged. Which was my point.

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they will milk it next year when Chris Rock gives an award and gets a standing o, and they will milk it some more when they let Will back in so he can complete his redemption arc.

It’s less relevant than it’s ever been.

It’ll like SURVIVE but…no redemption arc will be completed because nobody will give a shit 10 years from now.

Like Disney+ or Netflix will pick it up.

Moving it to streaming services will probably solve a lot of the issues: no commercial breaks will severely cut down the length. Then they can issue all of the awards live they want, and even throw in a musical number or two for shits and giggles.

.

sympathy for him.


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