im not even sure who you got that from (maybe someone other than me?).

you seem to be operating under the assumption that putin isnt already decided or leaning towards invasion.

youre treating putin like some chess piece without his own will and agenda.

dude has already been caught using a blatant false flag op and disinformation campaign to try to spin the narrative on violence in donbas.
https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/1494770294271225861
https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1494793525875118085

fake videos and pictures fabricated before the violence even began.

so clearly this was premeditated (exactly what biden and our intelligence services *said* he would do).

my only point is that putin is the aggressor. if he wants war...then its on him solely. if he doesnt invade then there is no war. nobody else is escalating the situation. hes the one already in complete war posture with the massive troop/weapons buildup (75% of the entire russian active duty military is on the ukraine border now).

what about this is 'american exceptionalism' or me clamoring for war? that sounds like some stock canned response you already had on deck for this debate regardless of who you were actually debating with. i said nothing even approaching that. i didnt even mention the american military or our response to putins actions lol. so you grabbed that out of thin air.

and how do you justify saying the only reason people clamor for war is because its always fought on other peoples soils with weaker capabilities but i havent seen you take issue with russia continually waging unnecessary war and invading smaller/weaker/non-aggresor ukraine. what about those people? you believe everyone should sit around and let them be slaughtered and have their country overrun and ruled by pro-russian forces (which they roundly reject in democratic elections)?

i have no idea why you find anyone elses words/actions anywhere near as objectionable as putins (who is the only one who has amassed his military in the region and begun electronic/cyber attacks on ukraine) but it is what it is i guess.

your demeanor on this is really weird. to the point youre inventing stances that people didnt even take just to rationalize some of your prearranged talking points.