surely the forum software makes a skin just a lil more friendly to mobile devices right? lol.

if we gotta kick in a few dollars to get that upgrade pack...i'm down.

If he disappears, the site is done.

Ain't no updates coming lol

Sounds like the boards are a 'duct tape and bubblegum' situation. Much appreciated for anyone who does the IT part here

>surely the forum software makes a skin just a lil more
>friendly to mobile devices right? lol.

The software powering this forum has been dead for many years. I doubt "responsive UI" was even a concept whenever it was last updated.

I don't know the inner workings of DCForum, but I imagine there's a way to modify the templates to update the HTML and CSS to something more modern and agreeable for smaller devices.


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>The software powering this forum has been dead for many years.
>I doubt "responsive UI" was even a concept whenever it was
>last updated.

..but not likely anytime soon.

Improvements are clearly needed for all thinks OKP-related. Unfortunately, there are other concerns to be addressed as well and all of it will take time.

Thanks for your patience.


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i wonder if any other subreddits have failed as hard

>i wonder if any other subreddits have failed as hard

of the okayplayer.com website that most of the people currently in charge barely care about, its almost become more of a liability than an asset, hence the ads we get bombarded with all over our screens

It was a thing that had its time.

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But I for one don't know how I could live without it. Not only does it offer a much needed distraction from work-related spreadsheets and reports, but more importantly it's a *productive* distraction from work; I learn a LOT from you all/this board ... news, information, perspective, insight, personal anecdotes, etc. ... stuff that I wouldn't know where to find anywhere else. Certainly not fucking Twitter lol.

And all of the above is in addition to the music and other cultural stuff I learn from spending time on these boards with all of you. We all obviously share a lot of common interests (and political/moral ideologies) and that's something I'm not sure I could really replicate elsewhere .. at least not to the degree that I find it here.

All of that's very "me me me" but I have to assume I'm not alone.

Like Reeq, I'd gladly throw some money in to update the UI so we can keep this thing going and update it for modern times. I'd miss it too much to see it go.

for pretty much all the reason you said. i'll be pretty bummed the fuck out once it finally goes away

there still a distinctly different feel here from regular social media and even other message boards

I don't have insight into the inner workings of the site, but the message boards seemingly exist off in a largely inoffensive corner of this spot. It's not like we're particularly expensive to maintain or are becoming a "problem" for the Mothership. We can keep bumping along until become just decide to stop posting.

At the time I definitely thought it was the end - an unceremonious, abrupt end. And I definitely missed it while it was gone.

any modernizing might crash it or take away the nostalgic part

I'd rather have it die than turn into anything else

Been through multiple migrations of data from here to here.

Thus and thus.

It's going to break a lot and become a massive problem for someone. I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole.

It's cheaper to keep it as is.

there are migration scripts that handle this for different forum/cms/shopping/etc software. but manually isnt too complicated either.

what are you really in danger of 'breaking' as long as the db is intact?

the main site (not the forum subdomain) is already using a responsive ui. so its not like youre redesigning the whole thing.

just update your new forum page templates to use the old db tables/fields.

This forum software is beyond end of life. Some Googling will show you just how bad the situation is.

It's cheaper and less risky to kill the boards tbh. Hate to say it.

i was talking about migrating to *different* software. like from wordpress to drupal.

but lets be honest...you dont even need to change the backend software wholesale when you can just update the frontend templates html/css (with something like bootstrap for example).

we are not talking about performance or eol security upgrades or something like that. we are just talking about a different ui/design for a more comfortable presentation to visitors.

i know you know its not as difficult as its being made out to be.

other than the domain

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

it hasn't really changed. feels familiar to come back to this format, even if it's not updated for modern times.

the chrome forced dark mode is pretty brutal.

i honestly hate it here most of the time and even won't bother posting or replying bc i might get replied to by some lonely misanthropic sociopath in OKS or the lesson. but i keep coming back and lurking so there is definitely a pull to this place — mostly driven by familiarity — and the outdated tech is defnitely part of that familiarity

I know a major part of the ppl moved to facebook, but what about ppl who arent on facebook?

Like all the alternatives are out there already. But this doesn't work as a reddit group, facebook group, twitter flock(?), etc.


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new features would be great and all but if it would just be more usable on a phone that would enough.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

https://circle.so/

https://www.reddit.com/r/okayplayer/

This seems like a good option.

I wanted to see how far I could go with just CSS so I started a stylesheet for the archive pages and a bookmarklet to apply it:

https://gist.github.com/douglas-johnson/aa7992550591896ec0c78615dea60341

I'll do more when I get the chance.

How would I pull up the site using your stylesheet?

The CSS, and a bookmarklet to apply it are available here:
https://gist.github.com/douglas-johnson/aa7992550591896ec0c78615dea60341

You can use them to see the stylesheet applied using a desktop browser.

1. Create a bookmark with the bookmarklet text as the URL. It starts with javascript: rather than https:
2. Navigate to a forum or topic on the board.
3. Click the bookmark with the custom javascript in it.

This will fetch the CSS from GitHub and append it as a style element in the head.

I wanted to see how far I could get with just CSS, and now I know.

The limitation I'm hitting is the table of contents and nested comments. The indentation is handled with literal whitespace like non-breaking spaces, which CSS doesn't have much control over.

A possible solution would be more JavaScript to produce a character count that let's the CSS know how much indentation to apply. I'm not sure I can make it terse enough to fit it in a bookmarklet.

Not bad. I personally like the threaded nature of the boards. But pulling off threads can be difficult depending on the width of a visitor's browser.

Hopefully, the staff here makes it worthwhile to you if they hire you to work on the boards.

This is dope.

Since this forum runs on dead software (DCForum), probably the best route to a mobile-friendly layout would be new CSS (like this) and maybe even mangling the HTML itself. I know Triptych (also a software dev and longtime OKP) started some code long ago to parse OKP thread HTML: https://github.com/djtriptych/okp-threadparser

I would be down to help out if you keep working on this! Maybe it could evolve into a browser extension.

>I wanted to see how far I could go with just CSS so I started
>a stylesheet for the archive pages and a bookmarklet to apply
>it:
>
>https://gist.github.com/douglas-johnson/aa7992550591896ec0c78615dea60341
>
>I'll do more when I get the chance.

just saying. id hire me

I'm curious what the tech/engineering side of Okayplayer as a company looks like right now?

I looked at Okayplayer on LinkedIn but most of the people listed there seemed like editors/writers

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Although these I worry less about that.

I once forgot to minimize my screen when my boss came around my desk. He said what he needed to tell me and left without commenting on my screen. I only realized once he left that I was on the boards and he did not think anything of it.

My coworkers sometimes come to my desk while I'm here and think I am working on some boring shit, they show zero interest on what is on the screen.