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13451705, I don't agree with all of this
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jan-13-22 01:13 PM
>across the political spectrum. Even Dems are calling for a
>reset:
>
>https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/11/democrats-covid-strategy-526924
>
>"Democrat, Rep. Ro Khanna of California, has called for a new
>chief at CDC — someone who “really has the respect of the
>public health community, and has been right on a lot of the
>calls.”
>
>Public trust in the CDC is at an all-time low. Fauci &
>Walensky have botched a lot of the messaging and haven't had
>consistent conviction in any policy recommendation (outside of
>vaccination).

Just Dems looking for another scapegoat to what they think is overwhelming backlash of their handling of the virus or vaccine. Fauce has been fine and everything he said were true to the data in that MOMENT. Whether it was initially don't mask or mask up. These were decisions made as they started to learn about the virus as more data came in every day. There is this weird notion from the public that scientists should have the answers and solutions and anythign they say needs to be in absolutes. THAT part is on us. We need to stop blaming our stupidity as a soceity on others. It's the same thing we hear with misinformation and tech. Yeah it's Twitter and Facebook's fault Americans are so easily manipulated by posts by bots that end up in the cycle of stupid that is society. If you most of the stupid information swirling on the internet then you must have also believed that Elivis was still alive in the 90s and spotted all over the world because you read it in the National Enquirier at the check out line LOL foh.

>https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/10/rochelle-walensky-is-not-good-this/
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>The recent email leaks from Collins & Fauci (re: origin of the
>virus; Wuhan lab leak) cast serious doubts about whether Fauci
>has been forthright with the public about gain-of-function
>research (funded by taxpayers) and the origins of this
>pandemic.

....stop it. I know you are big into conspiracy theories. Stop it. There is no credible smoking gun on this yet. Stop acting like there is.


>
>We need new public health leadership. It's been a failure on
>all fronts.

I can agree with this. I don't think Fauci should be removed but I think better communication needs to be implemented. Start acting like society is stupid and talk to them like they are.


>New CDC data on Omicron shows that this variant doesn't
>discriminate:
>
>New data released by the CDC shows who omicron is impacting.
>
>Of 43 cases reported the first week of December:
>
>58% were young people between 18 and 39 years old.
>79% were vaccinated, including 14 people who received a
>booster dose.
>16% had been infected with COVID-19 before.
>33% had traveled internationally
>1 person, who is vaccinated, was hospitalized

It's still way early to say it's MILD. They even just started saying that maybe we should stop saying that altogether as new data is showing that Omicron is making kids a higher risk for diebetes now. The data is early but it's strong enough that it's being further looked at to be peer reviewed.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/experimental-lilly-drug-neutralizes-omicron-lab-slightly-higher-risk-diabetes-2022-01-10/

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/966291

>58% were young people between 18 and 39 years old.
>79% were vaccinated, including 14 people who received a
>booster dose.
>16% had been infected with COVID-19 before.
>33% had traveled internationally
>1 person, who is vaccinated, was hospitalized

This isn't news or new. All this shows is that the vaccine designed to work against the original strain needs to be modified, which they are doing. It's not useless but its not as effective. Like the flu shot. We aren't taking the same flu shot we took when we were 5. It's the same fucking thing.

>Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7050e1.htm
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>There's new data of the booster's efficacy waning in just 10
>weeks against Omicron:
>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/health/booster-protection-omicron.html
>
>This isn't exactly persuasive data to call for
>boosters-for-everyone - especially when you consider how mild
>this variant is. Out of this micro-study, only one person was
>hospitalized (incidentally - the person was vaccinated). The
>notion that we would booster younger/healthy people for a 10
>week benefit against symptomatic Omicron (which is already
>mild) doesn't make much sense. All of these booster shots
>should be re-routed across the world to those who haven't had
>their first doses, with a focused approach targeting
>older/immunocompromised.
>

This acutally does mean you should get boosted with the current vaccine until the new one designed to work against Omicron and further mutations is released. It's a guessing game. But to say ths isn't persuasive datta to call for boosters is a stupid statement.

>We (hopefully) are trending towards the endemic phase of the
>pandemic, which means our policy also needs to change. We
>won't boost our way out of this.

We are at where we are at because we MOSTLY boosted our way out of this. This wasn't the result of natural immunity or causes LOL. WTF are you even talking about.