>>The problem with your logic here is that you're excluding
>the
>>fact that vaccinated people are also driving a lot of
>>transmission - so it's not as if you get vaccinated you're
>all
>>of a sudden exempt from contributing to the pandemic and not
>a
>>part of the problem, per se.

This. This is why people are throwing up their hands with you and yours.

Because you have a strong tendency to get this issue exactly backward.

Nobody is saying, we're vaxxed, we can't get or transmit the virus.

That's not it at all. This is particularly glaring since THEY DO UNDERSTAND what the vaccination means, as you quoted below:

While it's true that you're
>less
>>likely to get an initial infection if vaccinated (though not
>>to the degree as it was originally purported) and it's also
>>true that a vaccinated body clears the virus sooner
>(creating
>>a shorter window of transmission)-

....all of which results in a massive net positive in the fight against this fucking thing.

All of which is proof positive of the reason to get vaccinated.

vaccinated (and even
>>boosted) hosts are still getting infected and transmitting
>the
>>virus at significant rates.

....but then you turn around and drop this nonsense.

Yes, vaccinated people contract and transmit the virus- but the likelihood and severity are significantly reduced. Which is something they laid out in their post, yet still comes back to this.

Vaccines aren't brick walls against the virus. This especially true when large portions of the population, such as yourself and kayru, refuse the vaccine. The overall efficacy of vaccines depends heavily on mass participation, which you and yours are hellbent on preventing.

Vaccines decrease transmission- a fact that they explained.
Which means that the more people who vaccinate, the less people get infected.

The more people are vaccinated, the less severe the infections that do happen.
Which means less strain on the health care system.

The more porous the defense, the more infections get through, and the worse those infections are.

But nope, you and yours choose to flaunt your disregard for this basic fact.

YOU ARE LITERALLY THE PROBLEM.

>THATS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS RIGHT NOW. THE VACCINE IS
>NOT STOPPING TRANSMISSION - this is proven in the clinical
>trials, in the studies, and is CLEAR AS DAY from the daily
>data all over the world.

>You are arguing yourselves in circles but the SIMPLE FACT IS
>THAT IT DOESNT STOP TRANSMISSION so I AM NOT HELPING YOU OR
>ANYBODY ELSE BY GETTING VACCINATED.

This is demonstrably false. What's mind blowing, is that the reasons why this is false is in the very quote you just cosigned.

Which is why people are saying, fuck em, if they die, they die.
Because you cannot get out of the way of your own ignorance.

Y'all are on a mission to earn Darwin Awards en masse- but want empathy when you're disproportionately impacted by the virus.

>Once we can get past that all the other shit means little. THE
>VACCINE ISNT WORKING. SIMPLE.

No, your ability to properly understand what a vaccine does- and doesn't- do, among other things, isn't working.

You and yours have this exactly backward.
That's on you.
We are not the villains for being sick and goddamned tired of your own willful ignorance.