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>>1. vaccines prevent mutations. if we keep fucking around,
>>we're about to find the fuck out with a vaccine proof
>variant
>>if it already hasn't happened.
>
>That's not entirely true, and there are many scientists who
>argue the opposite. See "leaky vaccines" "immune escape" - Dr
>Geert van den Bosche...
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>>2. I have several heart conditions I monitor, remember in
>2020
>>when young people were dropping dead from strokes and heart
>>attacks? The risk of myocarditis is something I've
>considered,
>>but the risk of getting into trouble from covid
>complications
>>is just too high for me.
>
>I totally get that and I respect your decision to get
>vaccinated. I respect that you think the vaccine can help
>with your heart condition. I am VERY close to somebody
>similar - 4 heart surgeries, a lifelong heart condition - and
>he doesn't want to take it b/c he is worried about further
>inflammation. I can't see why that makes him an idiot?
>
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>>3. again and again...people seem to focus on death being the
>>reason for being afraid of covid. Man, long covid is no
>joke.
>>
>>
>>The prosthetic industry has been pretty active since covid
>>popped off because there are lots of cases of people losing
>>extremities relating to oxygen starvation.
>>https://www.uchealth.org/today/severe-covid-19-leads-to-limb-amputation/
>>
>>Few seem to talk about the fact that rehab centers have been
>>filling up since covid hit. Oh cool, you survived...now take
>>your sick ass to rehab while we help you try to live a
>>somewhat normal life.
>>
>>Few seem to talk about what it's like to be in the hospital
>>with covid...man, you don't just chill in the hospital, you
>>spend the majority laying on your stomach laying prone to
>help
>>oxygen get into your lungs.
>>
>>There are people who are now suicidal because they haven't
>>been able to taste food or smell...still. Theres even an
>>unfortunate subgroup of people who have an altered sense of
>>taste where everything tastes like rotting food and since
>this
>>is all new, we don't know if things are going to go back to
>>normal or not.
>
>I understand all that but that doesn't make people hesitant to
>get the vaccine idiots that we should wish death upon does it?

Yeah - no. My bad, I'm not in agreeance with the original sentiment of the post. No one should die, no one should die from a stupidly preventable death. Thats not my argument here. I'm frustrated. I'm really, extremely frustrated with the way people have been taking covid, like the people who are in hospitals on deaths door who refuse to believe covid is real or that they even have covid despite the fact that they are there in the hospital for...covid.

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>>4. Just for once, tell us what you think we should be doing?
>>I've seen every argument for pushing back on covid vaccines,
>>but never a real solid plan of action beyond, "um, not for
>me"
>>- ok, then, what? We just ignore things because they are not
>>that bad?
>>
>
>I think we should have a real conversation about the vaccines
>safety, build real informed consent, and learn to live with
>COVID, because vaxx or not it's here to stay even hopefully in
>a mild fashion. We should NOT quarantine healthy people,
>lockdown the world, and mandate experimental medications.
>

So that's the thing...the part about quarantining "healthy people" is that it's a paradox. A good amount of covid cases are asymptomatic, but they can still be spreading it completely unaware that they are getting lots of people sick. Put that fact on a plate and add a side of mask defiance and you have a nice lil' meal going.

I HOPE LIKE FUCK EXTRA TERRESTRIAL LIFE DOESN'T COME IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

we can't come together for shit.