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13450766, cmon. You're better than this.
Posted by Stadiq, Tue Dec-28-21 11:37 PM
>You don't understand what the change in recommendation
>ACTUALLY was, me thinks.
>Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron
>variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation
>from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to 5 days, if
>asymptomatic, followed by 5 days of wearing a mask when around
>others. The change is motivated by science demonstrating that
>the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the
>course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of
>symptoms and the 2-3 days after. Therefore, people who test
>positive should isolate for 5 days and, if asymptomatic at
>that time, they may leave isolation if they can continue to
>mask for 5 days to minimize the risk of infecting others.

Just like the admin's "take your mask off and party" bullshit this is all based on an honor system and essentially lets companies off the hook for not enforcing 10 days.

Airline CEOs requested this change, and got it. Its not that hard. Even Captain Democrat Apologist Reeq admits this below.

I also encourage you to do some digging and asking people who have had COVID about their wild timelines with testing, etc.

Not to mention, Omnicron is still new.

They want your ass back to work. Writing is on the wall.

>Additionally, CDC is updating the recommended quarantine
>period for those exposed to COVID-19. For people who are
>unvaccinated or are more than six months out from their second
>mRNA dose (or more than 2 months after the J&J vaccine) and
>not yet boosted, CDC now recommends quarantine for 5 days
>followed by strict mask use for an additional 5 days.
>Alternatively, if a 5-day quarantine is not feasible, it is
>imperative that an exposed person wear a well-fitting mask at
>all times when around others for 10 days after exposure.
>Individuals who have received their booster shot do not need
>to quarantine following an exposure, but should wear a mask
>for 10 days after the exposure. For all those exposed, best
>practice would also include a test for SARS-CoV-2 at day 5
>after exposure. If symptoms occur, individuals should
>immediately quarantine until a negative test confirms symptoms
>are not attributable to COVID-19.

Ah yes, mask wearing. Because Americans have been so cool with that, right?

>So you read that as "Biden ORDERS the sick to go back to work
>even if it spread disease because the airlines told him to do

Its okay to take a beat and think this through. They asked for it, and it happened pretty quickly.

I try to be careful to say "Biden Administration" but that isn't really the point is it?

Be honest....this happens under Trump you'd be skeptical if not outright pissed.

Why is being consistent so hard for folks?

>Someone's sense of reasoning may be the thing that is tired
>>It’s incredible to see how little criticism the Biden
>admin gets from certain folks.
>Biden's getting HAMMERED from ALL direction and has been for

Not here.

>He's hammered because the pandemic hasn't been "solved." That
>delta was multiple times as contagious as the disease that
>preceded it. And now that Omicron is 5 times as contagious it
>is his fault for not going back before omicron and securing
>free test for every citizen to use from now until the "end."

Biden said he had a plan. He called Trump out (rightfully) for not doing enough...and he has done little more.

Vaccine, Vaccine, Vaccine. (They were developed before Joe btw).

Where is the testing plan?

The paid leave?

Travel vaccine requirments?

etc etc

Not that it should be magically solved, don't do that.

Its that it could be a lot better than it is and, at the very least, it would be nice to see the Democrats at least try.

Try to make it better.

Why can't we ask for Democrats to try more? I don't get it.

>Then you compare that to Trump? Trump he said he didn't feel
>the need to wear a mask? Who pushed hydroxychloroquine? Who
>focused on overturning an election instead of distribution of

This is what I was afraid of actually. The bar is so fucking low ya'll will celebrate defend anything.

So all we should expect of Uncle Joe is to not shit himself?

You know my point is that if the CDC cut isolation in half under Trump ya'll would be pissed and with me.

>Congress could pass the laws to supply aid - but they WILL
>not. Almost every Republican won't pass them because it might
>help Joe Biden's rating a little - and many Democrats because
>they think the government should be run as a for profit

GOP bad. I get it.

Pretty sure Dems have majorities in both chambers and the white house. Any of them put up a paid leave bill?

How about in the initial response in the honeymoon phase?

No? Oh that's right, they were busy telling everyone they can unmask if they pinky swear that they are vaxxed.

>I can't imagine a scenario where a bill that has passed both
>house of congress is vetoed by Biden to increase aid. Can you
>honestly see that scenario?

Are you having a fever dream? I never said that.

>The countries fucked - but if you think this administration is
>purposefully doing it to help airline CEOs then I think you
>aren't paying attention.

If you think they aren't, then you aren't paying attention.

I got bad news for you. Democrats are trying to serve two groups- regular people and capital.

Capital wins every time.

Very little has been done to address this pandemic other than then vaccines.

Because other shit- paid leave, testing, etc...would be of benefit only to us and not capital.

GOP is worse. I get it. And I agree completely.

I just wish people - especially people around here- were okay with asking more of Democrats rather than rushing to defend millionaires.

>This pandemic isn't going to be 'solved" and 'over and done',
>there is no series of actions that are 'perfect' and fix
>everything - the goal is to minimize harm and disease.

Exactly. And this administration could and should be doing a lot more.

>>When the GOP essentially said some will have to die
>for the economy it was ridiculous and rightfully
>panned around here, etc.
>I don't believe for a SECOND that Biden and his administration
>agree with that. I do think 70% of Congress does. And 30
>governors. And 90% of Fox news. And 97% of CNBC.

Then why isn't there paid leave?

Why don't you have to show proof of vax to fly?

Why can't essential workers get tests and masks?

If you believe Democrats and this Administration are so much better than the picture I have painted, why is it just a vaccine and good luck?

And here's the big one- why no shut down?

>But you're right about one thing: this country prizes work
>over all else - more than your family, your health or your
>life. (And when I saw work I mean working for boss who's
>profits depend on your labor.)
>It's a sickness that also needs to be cured.

Right. Thank you. But why is it so hard to admit that this administration/Democrats ALSO clearly value it more than anything else?