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13448507, I'll say it now, this was always a tough case
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Nov-22-21 09:36 AM
1. My background for this case was reading this New Yorker Piece

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/05/kyle-rittenhouse-american-vigilante?source=search_google_dsa_paid&gclid=CjwKCAiAnO2MBhApEiwA8q0HYdD5vyoy-mJnR6VnUKJ_cXQfBaVa8BDt0MR9xLPdOrzqY3jakovJbRoC_aEQAvD_BwE

That persuaded me that KR isn't the Bugaloo Boy that the media made him out to be. ALl the deplorables wanted to make him their hero, but it didn't seem like he was a part of that movement from the start.

2. I can't front, when I discovered all his victims were white. It changed how I felt about it. Namely, because I have seen a lot of peaceful BLM and related protesting get fuzzed up by super left anarchist seattle type protesters. I still don't know a lot about the victims but it didn't help when I did learn:

3. Cause what I did learn is that it seems the first victim was shot after chasing KR. I really wanted to learn what happened immediately before he started chasing him but it wasn't clear. THough the states own witnesses didn't paint a great picture. What does seem established that after chasing him and grabbing his weapon, KR shot him. It doesn't take a great lawyer to argue that's self defense. And it would take the greatest prosecutor ever to establish that as murder.

4. After that first shooting. Then you have fog of war. The next two victims would have been right to pursue what they think is an active shooter. And if KR had acted in self defense, you can argue he had a right to defend himself against people coming at him with, among other things, a gun. I don't know why the prosecutor thought it was a good idea to put the only living witness on the stand to testify he pointed a gun at KR before being shot. A better discussion of the weakness of the case here. https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/1057422329/why-legal-experts-were-not-surprised-by-the-rittenhouse-jurys-decision-to-acquit

5. Listen I believe it was 100% wrong for this kid to go, and be sent, into that situation with a weapon. He had no business there, but unfortunately its not a crime to be there with a weapon. This case represents a failure of our gun laws, a failure of the police to not send that kid home, a failure of his parents to let him go out there. However, it would be hard to translate that into a murder conviction.

6. I think right outcome would have been this kid charged and convicted with a wreckless manslaughter and some kind of gun charge. I don't know if the prosecutors purposely flubbed it, but a murder charge was always going to be hard to make.

The only consolation I have from this mess is seeing KR's attorney rejecting a lot of the people who have been invested in this case.

https://www.newsweek.com/rittenhouse-lawyer-slams-gop-congressman-trump-over-job-offers-1651671

and KR as well claiming he supports BLM.

Hopefully this deflates the rights effort to make him a hero. Hopefully this means he won't go the Zimmerman route.




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