And by Wedge Issues I mean issues that Black People In General and Black Progressives are very far apart on. I got:

Dave Chappelle
Chris Brown
Defund the Police
Tyler Perry
The South as a place to live

Despite Dave Chappelle, I do not think LGBTQ Rights in general are still the wedge issue it once was thankfully. (most recent survey I could find. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/support-gay-marriage-reaches-all-time-high-survey-finds-n1244143).


What else we got?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I hate that Pop culture has such a huge impact on how we relate to each other.....
It's sad really...

I don't agree with The South as a place to live being a wedge issue.

Everybody got country cousins...it's part of the Black Experience.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

are still considering the south when they come to visit family or visit ATL

that's it

what else would you expect?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

And seeing your list, it would seem Bill Cosby and R. Kelly both fit.

There is a wrong and loud crowd, but I think most black people think these guys are dog shit.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

One of them, a fucking teacher, was even trying to go down the "he was trying to buy NBC" bullshit ass route.
The R. Kelly doc flipped a bunch of people, but there's still plenty of "but (insert white man)!" types out there

when she was underage. It's pretty hard to ignore that


Bill Cosby has however many dozens of unrelated Ladies making similar claims against him over a large period of time, but there's no video of him engaging in the crime he's accused of (Some people would still support him anyhow)











*And of Course by R Kelly, I mean his Brother

Many of which really surprised me - and across all demographics. Of course there are some that didn't surprise me at all...the woke Black folks who defend anything Black, the conspiracy theory/anti-vax Black folks who felt that "they" were out to get Bill, the older Black folks like my parents who were quiet during the trial and conviction but were looking for ANY reason to defend him - and when it was overturned they jumped in to defend, etc.

But besides all those groups I had some friends who I typically see eye-to-eye with (progressive, logic-based, non-emotional reasoning) that shocked me in their defense of Cosby, despite the evidence out there - similarity across numerous accusations, and what he actually admitted to doing.

sure, the south has its issues, but the only blk folks looking at living in the entire south as a negative are east coast blacks that view living in squalor as a flex just because its in NY/ DC/ Philly, etc

that shit is not the wedge you think it is

You described in perfectly.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

is a better place to live for black people than the North.

I also had to struggle a few times to get some of the young people I know to consider southern schools.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

They have an image of the South that has the Confederate flags everywhere you look and the Klan always lurking in the shadows.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Often West Indian so its not like they necessarily have family down south.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

my moms family is from georgia and i'm in savannah now. i think
it's probably a better place to retire but i haven't been here long
enough to form a solid opinion yet. i've talked with a couple of
people that made a similar move (to atlanta) and they ultimately went
back home because of family and 'the south'. i can see why people
would not like it but, there's pros/cons with everything and the north
is not necessarily better...just more people packed/tossed into the
rat race.

i dont begrudge any black person that looks at this shit and says this isnt for me.

it was always a head scratcher for me when I went back home

Especially since I’m from western PA.

“Rednecks and confederate flags!!! Hell nah”

Same Black people back home live in towns that are 90% white, filled with rednecks who call their white gf’s n#gger lovers.

when they finally leave home to visit the south they are mesmerized by all this Blackness

are worse than the south. And the GOP just won governor in VA and barely lost in NJ, they're coming lol...

>it was always a head scratcher for me when I went back home
>
>Especially since I’m from western PA.
>
>“Rednecks and confederate flags!!! Hell nah”
>
>Same Black people back home live in towns that are 90% white,
>filled with rednecks who call their white gf’s n#gger
>lovers.
>
>when they finally leave home to visit the south they are
>mesmerized by all this Blackness

and hit the country its still a lot of Black folk in these small ass country towns

which is wild af to me since anytime that happens up north its always country ass wypepo

And I remember we had this convo almost word for word.

Me complaining about hating it here, him loving it here because there are actually black people here. From that perspective I get it. For me it’s nothing special though. The more I travel the more I feel suffocated by race and culture in the south.

if you're Black and middle/upper class. I don't think working class or poor Black folks would necessarily fare better in the South due to the lack of unions, the Jim Crow esq welfare system, the limited public transit systems etc. I know of a lot of working class Black folks who moved to places like Atlanta and Charlotte and ended up in similar or worse conditions than they already had up North.

I personally would never live in the South because I come from a Northern family. We've been in Philly since the 1700s and I love it up here. All Black Northerners don't hate the South. Some of us simply have strong roots in Northern cities that we want to maintain. Why should we let gentrification win?

but I don’t miss standing on a cold ass platform waiting for a train or bus.

that are about topics other than what's trending on Instagram

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

a weak attempt at discussing an actual important and interesting topic.

too much emphasis on pop culture along with a lack of awareness around actual "wedge issues".

would have been better if someone smarter posted it.

d

"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

Don't think I don't notice the low key personal jabs across several posts now. Want to talk about it?


>a weak attempt at discussing an actual important and
>interesting topic.
>
>too much emphasis on pop culture along with a lack of
>awareness around actual "wedge issues".
>
>would have been better if someone smarter posted it.
>
>d
>
>"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on
>Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest
>selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we
>imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are
>wasting our time


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

you are enemies with her lil mascot

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I will not go back and forth with you in this post (and I hope no one else does either) but two things?

1. This convo is dumb but a grown man talking about Pokeman GO isn't?

https://twitter.com/rjcc/status/1455598971062206469

2. Jokes aside, why do you make so many tweets that no one responds to? Seriously, how does that work? Do you have a tweet quota for your job?



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and talking about pokemon go and thinking out loud about augmented reality is a part of my job

2. Making tweets that get replies, or making tweets at all, doesn't make me any extra money and so it doesn't factor into my use of the platform. I know everyone you follow makes 1 gotta go posts about whatever's trending and I'm happy for them


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

i don't even notice screennames until after i hit 'Post Message'

bruh, i don't even know you. but you just be having consistently shitty takes that deserve rebuke.

love u tho.

d

"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

It's really a damn shame.

this shit is overrun w/immature, narrowminded lonely wannabe edgelords my god

i'm too tired to teach for free these days.

d

"I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time on Earth is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, each moment we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody what's us to say, then we are wasting our time

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

what you're referencing here seems to be "issues" to college educated Black liberals.

And those "issues" are mostly irrelevant to the actual lives of Black people

By black progressive, I think I was mainly thinking about the things that stay on the mind of a certain woke segment of black twitter which I agree aren't on the mind of most black people.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Those folks that do are performative as hell with it

steady mobbin’ on twitter

that gets people worked up or stays in the media aren't really that important.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

than shit like housing, healthcare, mental health, poverty, reparations, etc says a lot

all of the issues you brought up matter

but from my point of view it's not performative to be "progressive"

I understand we're all operating from different sets of experiences that shape us though

peace

let’s get into it

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

we all black lol

something you aint..lol

wish he still made good music (no pun)
fin

And there are Black progressives in the south.

What? LOL

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

>And there are Black progressives in the south.
>
>What? LOL
>
>Peace,
>
>Spirit (Alan)
>http://wutangbook.com


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

prolly puts sugar on his grits

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

And BTW, I am fairly confident that my potato salad would murk anyone talking smack in here potato salad.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>And BTW, I am fairly confident that my potato salad would
>murk anyone talking smack in here potato salad.

who said anything about NOT using mayo???

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

I'm ignoring the rest of this lazy ass discussion and bullshit northerner slander in here but this I cannot slide. The *onliest* people I personally know who put sugar on their grits are southern. Southern AF, too.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

First time I saw it I was both horrified (because fucking BLECH!) and confused.

& Grits....

Or somewhere along the lineage somebody bumped their head and got confused and just fucked it up for everyone else up the family tree.....
That's the only logical explanation..


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Because the notion that no respecting black person puts sugar on their grits is something I only ever hear from fancy people trying to prove too hard their black bona fides.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Y’all narratives be funny as shit. While tongue is (sorta) planted in cheek (I think sugar on grits is only slightly more offensive than ketchup on eggs but whatevs), only “fancy Black people” who are performing for ‘bona fides’ take issue with it?!?!

Ridic.

Let me be clear, I don’t know nor care about what any of y’all think but I’m super clear that sugar on grits is gross. I have, nor will I ever, understand it. Eat fucking Cream of Wheat. Jesus.

Because the notion that no respecting black person puts sugar
>on their grits is something I only ever hear from fancy people
>trying to prove too hard their black bona fides.
>
>
>
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

that REAL black people don't put sugar on their grits?

That's specifically what I am commenting on. The idea that its a lithmus test for blackness.


>Y’all narratives be funny as shit. While tongue is (sorta)
>planted in cheek (I think sugar on grits is only slightly more
>offensive than ketchup on eggs but whatevs), only “fancy
>Black people” who are performing for ‘bona fides’ take
>issue with it?!?!
>
>Ridic.
>
>Let me be clear, I don’t know nor care about what any of
>y’all think but I’m super clear that sugar on grits is
>gross. I have, nor will I ever, understand it. Eat fucking
>Cream of Wheat. Jesus.
>
>Because the notion that no respecting black person puts sugar
>>on their grits is something I only ever hear from fancy
>people
>>trying to prove too hard their black bona fides.
>>
>>
>>
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>>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>>
>>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
>


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...but my people are from Savannah & I've seen folks eat them a few different ways. I've seen some folks put sugar in their grits. I've seen some folks with a bunch of butter. My grandmother used to make grits with shrimp & gravy.

Southern coastal South Carolina. (I'm not a fan)

>Southern coastal South Carolina. (I'm not a fan)

My little brother used to kill his shrimp, grits & gravy as a kid. I preferred Grandma's fried catfish.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

there is a comedian on SM KevOnStage who posted he put sugar on grits and he got a good 3 weeks of serious traffic out of that bit

he just made this up after reading some shade room posts on IG

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Because I am not on IG and don't know what you are talking about.

It would be easier if folks know what you are talking about.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

because I don't stalk people's social media like a creep for an entire decade

you seem to talk about whatever's popular on IG

maybe you don't use it and that's just the level of your intellect, but I think more highly of you than that

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

in contexts I don't regularly understand what is meant.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

that something.

a way of playing into stereotypes in order to fit in. I'm using 'performative' as it relates to blackness, but it's wearing a mask to gain more acceptance. however, wearing a mask isn't exclusive to blackness.

for the record, I was kidding when I made that initial comment.

Demoratic Socialism as a platform.


My gut feeling (without any research or anything) is that most of Black america rejected "Democratic Socialism" at the same rate of rejection as any other demographic in this country.



Sure its popular among all young progressives (black progressives included). But I see the term as a wedge between progressives and the rest of Offline America.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Eric Adams describes practicing Stop, Question and Frisk, my other chats are dead split on it.

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-how-we-make-new-york-city-safe-20211128-4ekltfwlx5f4bgb3r4aegdnaiu-story.html




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"