13444308, good post nm Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Oct-11-21 12:56 PM
>To Doomdata's point...it's a joke. > >Now...how does that joke land? > >1) Hetero-cis - It's 'uncomfortably' funny...it's DAVE! >2) Family of Daphne - Hilarious because they knew her and >would know that she'd find that joke funny. >3) Dave himself - 1000% his feelings. He even used the >correct pronoun but didn't skate over the fact that a man, >used sperm, to create his daughter, then later transitioned to >a woman. >4) LBGTQIA community - offensive due to misgendering >post-transition. > >^^^That last bit is why he's not going to have further >specials and discuss this topic publicly...until he can be >sure they are laughing 'with him'. > >There's so much nuance in this special, wrapped around edgy >and uncomfortable and, to some, offensive jokes. > >My takeaways on Dave's stances: >-If you are born a way, it's factual, scientific data labels >your gender based on the reproductive organs you were born >with, however... >-You have a right to choose to transition if you felt you >weren't born into the right gender, however... >-That doesn't make your gender scientific because a born male >can't biologically produce eggs for fertilization and a born >female can't biologically grow sperm however... >-I can respect you where you are and even grow a friendship >with you...even if we disagree on the above. Additionally... >-It should be ok for us to joke about it while we are all >learning to live in this new and developing world and... >-Don't be surprised that people disagree with you (because >they do and will)...including cis women...and lastly... >-Let's not do the USA struggle Olympics because, blackmen have >had it worse than anyone historically in this country...and >you are still contributing to it no matter your sexual >orientation or gender identity. > >And to all of that, I say that learning and evolving is a >painful process. The biggest hurdles with most people who >struggle to accept evolving definitions of gender are all >built into their/our cultural development: > >-Moral queue's (based heavily on religious indoctrination) >-Normative education (everything we've learned most of our >lives tells us Boy/Girl, from science, entertainment, >household upbringing, social interactions) >-Having to learn new norms without a full education of them >(and then being shunned if they don't conform) > >It's like going your whole life and being told a particular >hue is blue and then after 30-50 yrs of knowing this, a whole >different color pallet is introduced to you based on the blue >hue where blue isn't just blue anymore; it's Royal, Navy, Sky, >Carolina, Dark, Light, Aqua, Turquoise, Cobalt, Cerulean. And >some blues are more green and some blues are more gray. And >you're like, "How can a blue be green or gray?". > >Then there's a slew of new rules and terms that might actually >get you shouted down if you misuse or neglect to use them when >living in this new world. > >Cis-gendered >Transphobic >Homophobic >They/Them as pronouns to refer to a singular person >Non-binary >Cisheteronormativity > >And then, on top of that, it 'seems' that this community is >above reproach and can't be criticized by 'others' when they >don't 'get it/understand' immediately (and some never will, >might take generations for this to be a normative thing). > >And then, for a black man, we could never make words like >Andro-Negrophobia stick and become actually respected by >society or science. It's like one of those things that lives >in the shadows...or maybe we just aren't as good at marketing. > *Shrug* > >All this to say that I feel more education is needed, less >shaming should be done (both ways) and expect people to >disagree (both ways). But relish in the developments that are >happening/fact that people are even open to >discussing/learning/respecting these evolutions in 2021. Says >a lot for the LBGTQIA community and how we've all become aware >of their particular brand of issues.
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