13444278, I think this sums up the whole special for me... Posted by auragin_boi, Mon Oct-11-21 09:52 AM
To Doomdata's point...it's a joke.
Now...how does that joke land?
1) Hetero-cis - It's 'uncomfortably' funny...it's DAVE! 2) Family of Daphne - Hilarious because they knew her and would know that she'd find that joke funny. 3) Dave himself - 1000% his feelings. He even used the correct pronoun but didn't skate over the fact that a man, used sperm, to create his daughter, then later transitioned to a woman. 4) LBGTQIA community - offensive due to misgendering post-transition.
^^^That last bit is why he's not going to have further specials and discuss this topic publicly...until he can be sure they are laughing 'with him'.
There's so much nuance in this special, wrapped around edgy and uncomfortable and, to some, offensive jokes.
My takeaways on Dave's stances: -If you are born a way, it's factual, scientific data labels your gender based on the reproductive organs you were born with, however... -You have a right to choose to transition if you felt you weren't born into the right gender, however... -That doesn't make your gender scientific because a born male can't biologically produce eggs for fertilization and a born female can't biologically grow sperm however... -I can respect you where you are and even grow a friendship with you...even if we disagree on the above. Additionally... -It should be ok for us to joke about it while we are all learning to live in this new and developing world and... -Don't be surprised that people disagree with you (because they do and will)...including cis women...and lastly... -Let's not do the USA struggle Olympics because, blackmen have had it worse than anyone historically in this country...and you are still contributing to it no matter your sexual orientation or gender identity.
And to all of that, I say that learning and evolving is a painful process. The biggest hurdles with most people who struggle to accept evolving definitions of gender are all built into their/our cultural development:
-Moral queue's (based heavily on religious indoctrination) -Normative education (everything we've learned most of our lives tells us Boy/Girl, from science, entertainment, household upbringing, social interactions) -Having to learn new norms without a full education of them (and then being shunned if they don't conform)
It's like going your whole life and being told a particular hue is blue and then after 30-50 yrs of knowing this, a whole different color pallet is introduced to you based on the blue hue where blue isn't just blue anymore; it's Royal, Navy, Sky, Carolina, Dark, Light, Aqua, Turquoise, Cobalt, Cerulean. And some blues are more green and some blues are more gray. And you're like, "How can a blue be green or gray?".
Then there's a slew of new rules and terms that might actually get you shouted down if you misuse or neglect to use them when living in this new world.
Cis-gendered Transphobic Homophobic They/Them as pronouns to refer to a singular person Non-binary Cisheteronormativity
And then, on top of that, it 'seems' that this community is above reproach and can't be criticized by 'others' when they don't 'get it/understand' immediately (and some never will, might take generations for this to be a normative thing).
And then, for a black man, we could never make words like Andro-Negrophobia stick and become actually respected by society or science. It's like one of those things that lives in the shadows...or maybe we just aren't as good at marketing. *Shrug*
All this to say that I feel more education is needed, less shaming should be done (both ways) and expect people to disagree (both ways). But relish in the developments that are happening/fact that people are even open to discussing/learning/respecting these evolutions in 2021. Says a lot for the LBGTQIA community and how we've all become aware of their particular brand of issues.
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