Judging 'environment'? Yeah, its tough. But my point was that lots of people assume the best with absolutely no supporting information when changing gigs. IE: they think if they leave a job they don't like, the next one will certainly be better just because they might have a good convo with HR or the hiring person at the next place.

OR

More dangerously than that, folks might have a decent enough gig in terms of who they work with but they want to leave to 'make more money'. And when they find that gig with more money, they assume that the environment will be at least equal at the next place. Then you show up and your coworkers are assclowns and/or the people you actually work for are dummies, jerks, or dumb jerks.

>>Companies do NOT do a good job of laying out their benefits
>>along with their salaries.
>
>maybe, some jobs oversell them and try to convince you youre
>really making more than you are because of the legally
>mandated "benefits" they give you.
>
>>
>>And people don't always consider these things the way they
>>should when taking/changing jobs.
>>
>>As you get older, benefits end up being big business:
>vacation
>>days, 401K matching, medical, sick days, etcetera.
>
>i think im at a point where the above are more important to me
>than just a raise. before i didnt really have the luxury to
>value those more than being paid fairly.
>
>>
>>And now, the whole work from home and/or work schedule thing
>>plays big now too, right? Lots of gigs seem to be trying to
>do
>>a hybrid of some kind to get the best of both worlds, but it
>>still seems messy for the industries/bosses that don't have
>it
>>figured out.
>
>would be nice if my job considered this.
>
>>
>>My gig has 'core hours' where they expect everyone to be
>>available (9 AM to 4 PM). Besides that, its dowhatchalike (I
>>see guys and girls dancin) for getting the rest of your
>hours
>>for each day. Some folks take extensive liberties with that
>>and I don't love it, but hey..its something.
>
>that seems cool. i do wish more companies focused on the work
>that needs to get done instead of over-focusing on punctuality
>and looking busy for 8 hours.
>
>>
>>At the risk of being even more philosophical, too many
>people
>>don't consider 'environment' until they're in a bad one. AKA
>>you can't just assume that you're going to be working around
>>decent folks who openly try to do a good job everyday.
>
>how can you properly judge this before accepting a job
>though?
>
>>And management? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid...good luck! As more
>places
>>become hyper focused on 'KPIs', you have less and less folks
>>who understand that management is more than 'staring at
>>graphs' and acting confused when things don't look good per
>>those graphs. And even with that, if you're graphs don't
>track
>>basically EVERYTHING, you're basically training your group
>to
>>only care about certain parts of their job even if it is at
>>the expense of other things.
>>
>
>i started keeping a log of all my activities with start dates
>and complete dates for each milestone since we dont have
>software to do this. ive resisted doing this for the first 4
>years because it is time consuming and if no one is reviewing
>it what is the point. i did this more so to keep track of my
>work and to be able to tell easier where something is stuck.
>its usually not with me. it feels like i spend half my time
>updating the log though.