>with completely composed music with live musicians playing
>new ish that isn't even an interpolated sample.
>
>But yeah - listen to Dre Day and then listen to Knee Deep by
>Funkadelic for an example of a sample interpolation.
>Completely replayed key bass (and not even replaying the same
>notes) and other key board parts, completely different drums,
>different tempo etc. Meanwhile a ton of east coast HOF
>producers were doing straight up loops, adding scratches, and
>calling it a day.

^^^^ exactly right. Which is perfectly OK, for the record. If the beat bangs, that's all that ultimately matters. But to act like Dre was lazily tacking lyrics on top of ripped off funk loops and putting his name on it is intellectually dishonest and objectively wrong. And that's on top of being inconsistent with how so many of the same people here and elsewhere praise the shit out of the east coast HOFers you mentioned as well as other sample-heavy legends like Madlib, Dilla, Q-Tip, DOOM, Alchemist, DJ Shadow, etc. etc. etc.