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13442533, goalposts? what are you talking about?
Posted by Cold Truth, Sat Sep-18-21 06:03 PM
>A) I said "kids", not "kids under 12." Interesting setting of
>the goal posts.

WHAT? This is ridiculous.

With due respect, you're either obtuse, or trolling.

You said "kids" as a blanket group.

I pointed out that there are very clear and distinct groups of kids where your comments are concerned. That's just a cold hard fact.

I'd say it's odd that you'd want to confine "kids" to a blanket, catchall group, but it follows with the rest of your posts.

I didn't set any goalposts. I pointed out basic facts and addressed each one separately.

>B) 30 year old healthy woman is concerned, you say simple to
>address. So lets address it...what do you say to her? What
>should she do?

About WHAT?

You want me to address the hypothetical concerns of a hypothetical person?

But then, I've already addressed that: I said she- and others with concerns- should go see their doctor. Nobody is, and body should, be coming to your or me on this issue.

And yes, they should go to an actual doctor. With an active license.

Granted, there are some antivax quacks out there, even in the medical field.

>From FDA panel yesterday -
>https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1438910319116627968/photo/1
>
>0.0004% death rate from COVID, no research/data available
>about vaccine for her. How do you simply address that?

Do you understand that death is for from the only problem with COVOD? That's a serious question. Because it's not. Not even close.

Also, do you have a better aource for that number? Because a few replies bow, someone points out that that wasn't an official FDA stat, but a submitted slide from a member of the public, who "spoke during the public comment part of the meeting. The speaker mentioned some app that a nurse who works with him used to come up with that risk number."

With due respect, this is fourth hand information, at best. Im not disputing the number, because I cannot find another source for it so far. So I'm dissmissing it until I find a credible source.

But what I will say is that CDC has a chart that states thay people from 30-39 have a death rate 4x greater than people 18-29.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

Moreover, women tend to contract COVID more than men, though men die at a higher rate:

https://gh.bmj.com/content/5/12/e003097

Here's an article discussing it:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778793

Again, death is hardly the only problem here. And of women contract it more, that means they're more likely to transmit it.

So that healthy woman who gets COVID and doesn't die?

She can transmit it to the child under 12. Or her 70 year old grandparent. Or, yes, the people in your own life, about which you are so deeply concerned.

All of which is why herd immunity is important. But keep on searching for all the stats that, in a vaccum, make COVID look like no big deal, and the vaccine the devil itself. You had several posts, and nothing you've brought so far puts so much as a dent in the fact that the downsides of the vaccine pale in comparison to the benefits.