they don't have his kind of hold on the media or trainwreck hold on the public. they could wreak havoc in primaries and win in hard right districts but that's probably it

Elder's been around forever, but his only real appeal is to make white people feel less racist when they shit on black people.

maybe a moderate repub, or some kind of anti-woke type dem with enough charaisma could have maybe knocked Newsom, but we're not gonna see Governor Dennis Prager, or Ricky Shroder anytime ever.