if not on stage, in interviews or podcasts

i think with Ellen it's more the contrast with her public image of being this warm, friendly, breezy person

i brought up the shchirripa story because i had just heard it. he didn't go into detail how she was in the past, but i assume she wasn't always terrible to him if he still wanted to say hello to her.

but i still feel buddy's point that this stuff is mostly hearsay. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if she's a trash person who treats people horribly, but it also wouldn't surprise me if some of it's overblown