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Topic subjectI understand where you're coming from. But I literally did the opposite
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13427944, I understand where you're coming from. But I literally did the opposite
Posted by kfine, Fri Mar-19-21 02:56 PM
of dismissing the connection btwn Black fathers and daughters; I said ALL WOMEN are someone's daughter.

Which I said in part bc often, especially in patriarchal dynamics, men need to affiliate women and girls with some kind of male-adjacent role (eg. wifey, mother, daughter) to see us as worth protecting or having some kind of value talk more of listening to or understanding. So when you all were like but-my-daughters, I thought I should point out that the very women many think are doing too much, Meg + Cardi, are also daughters; as have been all the women twerking in your fave male rappers' music videos or the pornhub clips yall beat it to.

Obv *your* priority is going to be *your own* daughters, but I don't think yall will be able to compute why *some women* view WAP as empowering unless you're contemplating it from a place where *ALL women* are humanized - INCL STRIPPERS AND PORNSTARS. Do you see where I'm coming from now? I'm not a scholar on this stuff at all, and I wish I could talk about it with the sophistication that afrogirl-lost and damali often do. But please believe I genuinely was just trying to help you see things from a (hypothetical) pro-WAP woman's perspective lol (and my personal position on WAP is actually irrelevant to being able to do so).

I mean, we can totally end the back and forth lol, it's all good. So far you've said your issue isn't with WAP's lyrical content, or with Meg + Cardi, or with sexually explicit subject matter in rap in general, or with rap culture... Are you just mad to be mad?? Lol. Like I said elsewhere, if you refuse to see how the song could be considered empowering, you're entitled to your opinion... All I asked is those of you who think that KTSE for all the rappers with similarly explicit content, whether male or female. OTOH, if you believe in good faith that there must be something about the song you're missing for so many women to view it as empowering, I just don't see how you resolve that without taking into account the song's lyrical content and context wrt rap music in general *shrug* Whatever tho :)