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13424868, y’all still hate Jay Z?
Posted by Trinity444, Mon Feb-22-21 05:20 PM
asking for a friend...



13424872, Never hated him, never was a big fan. He's a-ight as an artist
Posted by c71, Mon Feb-22-21 05:30 PM
He's a-ight as a successful person trying to make an impact here and there.


13424873, Can’t be the GOAT...
Posted by bentagain, Mon Feb-22-21 05:35 PM
https://youtu.be/12e4v-XlCmk

...he’s been sonned too many times.
13424874, yes
Posted by Lurkmode, Mon Feb-22-21 05:35 PM
n/m
13424877, what
Posted by Brotha Sun, Mon Feb-22-21 06:27 PM
13424880, RE: y’all still hate Jay Z?
Posted by jimaveli, Mon Feb-22-21 07:02 PM
>asking for a friend...
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I’m still all in on the raps.

And I’m never woke enough to make up in my mind what rich dudes are supposed to do to earn my praise for their personal shit. I AM getting to be more focused on how I can’t count on elected folks to do what they’re allegedly supposed to be doing.
13424881, OKP stopped hating Jay after Unplugged.
Posted by Teknontheou, Mon Feb-22-21 07:23 PM
13425174, fr.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Wed Feb-24-21 06:24 PM
13425196, Right, and he put 9th on the Black Album
Posted by DJR, Wed Feb-24-21 10:06 PM
13425201, But started hating him again when he took that NFL money.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Feb-25-21 07:31 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13424882, This isn't the most contemporary narrative...
Posted by CIPHA, Mon Feb-22-21 07:44 PM
I think OKP stopped hating Jay after Lupe's 1st album.
13424884, No, but we still ain’t bout that Tidal though.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Mon Feb-22-21 08:08 PM
13424888, ^^^
Posted by tariqhu, Tue Feb-23-21 12:49 AM
13424887, I didn't know "we" hated him.
Posted by KiloMcG, Mon Feb-22-21 08:59 PM
But I don't.
13424890, People tend to hate that he gets love more than they hate him
Posted by kwez, Tue Feb-23-21 01:22 AM
It's weird.
13424894, He LOST.
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Feb-23-21 08:11 AM
13424895, lmao.. you still LOVE him?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Feb-23-21 09:10 AM
13425170, Yep. Still do
Posted by Duc999, Wed Feb-24-21 05:51 PM
Still do.
Why? There is too much to type as to why."my presence is charity enough". Trying to sht on Harry Belafonte. Those are good starts.

13425188, isn’t he being honored at Harry Belafonte’s bday bash?
Posted by Trinity444, Wed Feb-24-21 08:45 PM
13425202, Mans apologized for that years ago.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Feb-25-21 07:33 AM
And Harry Belafonte is fine enough with him to have him as part of his birthday party. You can let this beef go.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13425216, sings “I’ll keep holding on”
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-25-21 10:03 AM
13426019, I'm in this line..."I'll keep holding on"
Posted by Duc999, Thu Mar-04-21 03:37 PM
Jay-Z is not my kinda of person.
Ignorant and arrogant. They are helluva drugs.
13425853, Square owns Tidal now....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Mar-04-21 09:05 AM
lol....my click bait assed hot take...but really...
Jack Dorsey did just buy a majority stake in tidal.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/4/22313108/square-inc-tidal-majority-stake-jack-dorsey-jay-z


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13425855, If NFTs make sense anywhere, it would possibly make sense with music
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Mar-04-21 10:13 AM
it's the digital asset the most people are already accustomed to paying for.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13425862, Grifting paying off for him
Posted by Lurkmode, Thu Mar-04-21 10:44 AM
Time for another 4:44 album.
13425878, Black people have created a new definition of 'grifting'
Posted by CIPHA, Thu Mar-04-21 11:54 AM
13425892, I don't hate his music. But I hate what he tries to represent
Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Mar-04-21 12:26 PM
Black capitalist bullshit.
Miss me with all that
"I coulda bought a building in dumbo..."
"You wanna know what's more important than throwin' away money at a strip club? Credit"
And "we've moved past kneeling"
shit he be talking.

13425917, yeah the NFL shit is joke
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Mar-04-21 02:09 PM
13426081, seeing Jazmine Sullivan sing at the Super Bowl tho...
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Mar-04-21 06:13 PM
13426058, I'll stand in this line too.
Posted by Duc999, Thu Mar-04-21 04:31 PM
Pure ignorance and arrogance.
13426060, +1
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Mar-04-21 04:50 PM
>Black capitalist bullshit.
>Miss me with all that
>"I coulda bought a building in dumbo..."
>"You wanna know what's more important than throwin' away money
>at a strip club? Credit"
>And "we've moved past kneeling"
>shit he be talking.
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13426083, that doesn’t make sense...
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Mar-04-21 06:17 PM
how can you hate what he represent but don’t hate his music? that’s like all he rapped about...

am I tripping? lol
13426084, you can like the music without liking his politics.
Posted by tariqhu, Thu Mar-04-21 06:20 PM
his view seems to be that money fixes everything and that just ain't true. racism will still exist.
13426135, I don't think that he thinks that he can solve racism though
Posted by kwez, Fri Mar-05-21 06:35 AM
13426238, that was hyperbole on my part.
Posted by tariqhu, Fri Mar-05-21 01:40 PM
13426157, all Jay was saying on 4:44 was get your money right
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-05-21 09:35 AM
not sure how it became about Jay and Bey saving Black people or ending racism.

if anything he is saying racism is still alive but you can get a small slice of the pie if you invest in some shit instead of consuming it

now, I know he spent years telling people to consume but I felt like 4:44 was his grown man album.

but my main gripe about the knock people have on 444 is acting like Jay only raps to broke ass black people. A lot of Jays fans are old af with jobs and 401K’s and shit.
13426240, I'm cool with the album.
Posted by tariqhu, Fri Mar-05-21 01:45 PM
no issue with somebody growing, but some of the messaging sounded like republican talking points.

13426267, see, I thought that republican talking points was a trash take
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-05-21 03:18 PM
dude was saying instead of buying that.. why not buy this?

and he was right.

I know that shit hurts but is it really a republican talking point to tell dudes to stop stunting and start investing?

is that really a bad thing to say?

I’m 40 and some change.. all my people are having the “fellas, where should I put this money? How can I set myself up for retirement? What stocks are you into these days” type convos on the group chats. These were the same dudes on some “where the hoes at my nigga” 15 years ago.

So nah.. I’m not buying that Republican talking points when our people try to talk to each other like fucking adults instead of kids..

seems like all people want to hear is how the man did us wrong and we cant do shit but complain about it.

rant over
13426285, to me,
Posted by tariqhu, Fri Mar-05-21 04:44 PM
its sounds like I'm rich and can invest in paintings. you should too! that's not the same as buying a stock. while the rich people talk is attractive to some, it's off putting to others.

he's was stunting his whole career. just stunting about different stuff.
13426475, I mean.. if one cant take his example and apply it to their lifestyle
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Mar-08-21 09:58 AM
thats not Jay’s fault.

its just an example of investing instead of consuming.

I dont think he is telling anyone to buy Dumbo buildings or million dollar paintings. Not sure why anyone would take his raps literally



13426496, "What's better than one billionaire?"
Posted by Hitokiri, Mon Mar-08-21 11:19 AM
I get why people like that album. I get why ya'll think it's "grown"
But no, for me, what's better than one billionaire is zero billionaires. Selling that kind of "aspirational" shit to people when you're "grown" is ridiculous.
13426163, Roc Nation was started because of racism...
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Mar-05-21 09:58 AM
Ace of Spade too
Tidal benefits Artists
never in a million years would we have seen Jazmine Sullivan singing at a super bowel. While I love her not many of my family and friends know of her...

it doesn’t seem reasonable to like his music but dislike the man he’s becoming.



13426170, I’m a Jasmine Sullivan fan since her Black Lilly days..
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-05-21 10:23 AM
but I don’t give a shit about her singing at a SB when it comes to Jay’s accomplishments.

you really putting a lot of weight on that one.. lol
13426244, her at the SB was a good look, but artists her level
Posted by tariqhu, Fri Mar-05-21 01:52 PM
of fame aren't who they normally showcased. they tend to have big timers performing because they hope to get more eyes on the game and show. yeah, good on Jay for that. maybe she got some more streams from it afterwards.

he's doing good things. no knock on that. just the messaging that was mentioned earlier isn't always correct.

13426247, doesn’t the label pay for those halftime shows?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-05-21 02:07 PM
NFL doesn’t pay them because of the exposure they receive.

13426281, right, the artists aren't paid.
Posted by tariqhu, Fri Mar-05-21 04:31 PM
but I'm not sure the label's involvement. for an artists like Sullivan, who not everyone knows, that exposure is a come up.
13426211, Damn man spent half his career talking reckless conspicuous consumption
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Mar-05-21 12:08 PM
and then when he trys to correct it buy trying to kick a little financial knowledge NOW you want to hate him? SMH.

Can't win. The Superbowl stuff was a gaffe and I absolutely hated the young misogynistic, materialistic Jay-Z but I appreciate the dude as the most evolution in one rapper in the course of a career.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13426245, its because he won
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-05-21 02:05 PM
thats why they hate him..

13426241, yeah he trying too hard
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Mar-05-21 01:47 PM
13426137, I wonder if he's cashing out to buy a pro team of some type
Posted by Tiger Woods, Fri Mar-05-21 07:49 AM
got out of half of Ace of Spades and dumped Tidal all in the last week. That's a wild influx of cash all at once.
13426173, There is an Asset Bubble and Cash is King.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Mar-05-21 10:31 AM
People spending millions for .gifs. SOmeone has told jay or he is figured out its a good time to convert to cash, let the bubble pop, and swoop in and buy back assets for cheap.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13426181, we have a hard time celebrating Black people in leadership positions
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-05-21 10:47 AM
we = Black folk



13426286, Nah, but he deserves some of the criticism he gets. n/m
Posted by Marbles, Fri Mar-05-21 04:47 PM
13426465, Jay is about as good as you'll get from a hood nigga...
Posted by kwez, Mon Mar-08-21 09:21 AM
that made it THAT far simply because he literally had no blueprint to follow. There was none before him. So of course he's stumbling his way through this shit.

He's going to fuck up a lot.

And there is no right way for him to be black and THAT successful such that everyone is happy.
13426601, THIS!
Posted by Adwhizz, Mon Mar-08-21 07:10 PM
Motherfuckers on my timeline talking about Jay should do this or that, he's a failure, yadda yadda yadda and couldn't run a successful lemonade Stand