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Topic subjectKellen Winslow II 14 years raped homeless 54 yo woman. WTF???
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13424727, Kellen Winslow II 14 years raped homeless 54 yo woman. WTF???
Posted by 81 DUN, Sat Feb-20-21 03:59 PM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30931684/kellen-winslow-ii-faces-14-years-prison-plea-change-rape-assaults

Must be some kinda mental health issue goin on there. Was he mixed in with Aaron Hernandez that might be it??? Crazy
13424729, Everything can't be put on CTE. There are just some bad people in the world
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Sat Feb-20-21 04:22 PM
And the NFL is part of the world.

Not saying it's not possible CTE had an influence on his behavior. But it seems like whenever a football player does anything, CTE is automatically the blame

13424732, Bullshit.
Posted by allStah, Sat Feb-20-21 04:36 PM
This is a recurring theme with FOOTBALL players

Suicide. Rape. Domestic Abuse. Violence.

Other sports don’t have these constant cases of extreme violent behavior.

Crazy how it’s with mostly receivers and defensive players....receivers take serious hits
defensive players give serious hits.

But Football players in general develop a lot of mental issues from playing football.
13424735, Baseball has a huge issue with DV
Posted by Nodima, Sat Feb-20-21 08:17 PM

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13424748, RE: Baseball has a huge issue with DV
Posted by allStah, Sun Feb-21-21 11:12 AM
Yes. I’m not denying that.

I’m talking about constant EXTREME cases of violence, no matter
if it’s self inflicted or done to someone else.





13424751, you're not paying attention, then
Posted by Damali, Sun Feb-21-21 11:51 AM

>Other sports don’t have these constant cases of extreme
>violent behavior.

cuz this is absolutely not true.

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13424788, lol i'm saying though
Posted by Mafamaticks, Mon Feb-22-21 09:49 AM
I can rattle off like 6 UFC incidents off the top of my head
13424790, the nfl has a lower prevalence of these crimes than the general public.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Feb-22-21 10:48 AM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/morris-datalab-nfl-vaw-2.png?w=610

so what are we blaming it on for the rest of the country?
13424800, RE: the nfl has a lower prevalence of these crimes than the general public.
Posted by howardlloyd, Mon Feb-22-21 11:48 AM
yeah but if you control for wealth that idea flies out the window
13424809, I think any model failing to at least adjust for age and race would also
Posted by kfine, Mon Feb-22-21 12:40 PM
be poorly specified, since NFL players obv tend to be younger and more racialized than the general population - especially comparing to the wealthy. You raise a good point tho.

Maybe an analysis comparing football players to players of other relevant contact sports (eg. boxing, MMA, rugby? soccer bc of the headbutts?) and adjusting for variables like age, race, income, etc might be more informative at this stage (or perhaps there are some already, I didn't search before replying you)... to get a sense if there really is more risk to players from football and/or the biz of football compared to other sports where similar injuries occur...






>yeah but if you control for wealth that idea flies out the
>window
13424808, It's not clear from that fig whether the percentages represent relative
Posted by kfine, Mon Feb-22-21 12:28 PM
risk or a proportion tho... would you happen to have a link to their full piece/methodology?? I can't from that URL

Because if they were speaking epidemiologically than those percentages could be interpreted as 55.4% *increased* risk of domestic violence among NFL players relative to the general population, for example. 0% would mean the incidence rates in both the NFL sample and general population sample were approx the same.

But the figure could also be interpreted as the domestic violence incidence rate among NFL players is 55.4% that of the general population's rate.

Which could also be valid, it's just not clear what they mean from their labelling. I instinctively assumed they were speaking epidemiologically tho, and I could be wrong.
13424817, Your point about position makes a ton of sense tho. Has it been shown??
Posted by kfine, Mon Feb-22-21 01:12 PM
Like is it rare to see folks who played quarterback, kicker, etc in these cases?

(Note: I don't really follow sports, so apologies if this is a dumb question and/or obv answer lol)


>
>Crazy how it’s with mostly receivers and defensive
>players....receivers take serious hits
>defensive players give serious hits.
13424794, basically
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-22-21 10:59 AM
13424731, Old Old News
Posted by allStah, Sat Feb-20-21 04:29 PM
This happened a few years ago, he just pleaded the charges down to
have his sentences reduced.

He definitely suffers from CTE on top of having an abnormal sexual fixation for
elderly women. I think he was already chemically unbalanced mentally before he
got to the Pros. But if you couple that mental makeup with taking on numerous hits
on the football field, makes for a very unstable person.

I remember his Browns teammates said all he did outside of football was play
video games and watch pornography.

He should have been handled by a psychologist and given medical weed to
offset the mental imbalance.

There are a lot of mentally unstable athletes in football, and the NFL does not give a fuck.

Year after year, you here shit like this regarding football players. Right up there with
Darren Sharper.

And Vincent Jackson recently ended his life.