>This isn't that uncommon, is it? And given the psycho couple
>were intent on kidnapping her due to their father's/father-ILs
>obsession w/ Monae's character... would that even have made a
>difference? They could've just lied, no? Like:
>
>"Hey, are you Abigail?"
>
>"Yes Ma'am :)"
>
>etc.


But here's the thing. When you take an Uber, there's not only a description of the car picking you up but also a headshot of the driver. Maybe I'm different, but I always look at those things to make sure I get in the right car. Perhaps I'm giving humans too much credit again lol.



>Well I mean, where did the creepy flower delivery guy come
>from (who obv worked for Denton as he was wearing one of those
>BD pins)?? And psycho red-head girl i.e. Denton's daughter,
>when she got into Monae's character's room (and was also
>wearing a BD pin)? The little girl/psycho red-head girl's
>daughter was dressed the same as how she was earlier in the
>movie when she was "in character" at the family's plantation,
>so maybe she'd just come from there or was about to go there
>etc. I actually think the Denton family might've even owned
>that hotel or something, bc that would make sense of why the
>flower guy and psycho red-head girl and the little girl/psycho
>red-head girl's daughter were able to gain such easy access.
>Additionally, if the Denton family owned that hotel it would
>help explain how they knew Monae's character would be in town
>for that specific conference and at that specific restaurant
>that night in order to abduct her (eg. remember her creepy
>interaction with the front desk, which she just assumed was
>bad customer service?). Denton was a racist wealthy
>election-rigging POS whose name was plastered all over (eg.
>the huge re-election ad the ubers drove past when Monae's
>character was being abducted) and had a huge following. It'd
>actually make total sense that the plantation and re-enactment
>park were not his only properties in the area. He was like a
>Trump.



The theory that Denton owned the hotel does make a lot of sense. But then, I think if the movie wasn't lazy, that wouldn't have to be a theory. It would be revealed at the end of the movie... or sometime during. The reveal would make a for a great moment. And I still don't get why they little girl would be running around the hotel in her plantation clothes by herself... other than for a creepy movie moment. Maybe if someone had commented on her outfit, and she said "I'm part of a reenactment" or some shit. Gimme something. Did her mama lose her? Idk, just weird to me lol.





>Hmm... I think useless is a little harsh on dude. Denton
>intentionally went ham on him first (which they also did at
>the start of the film when they were trying to
>subdue/recapture he and his wife... so maybe neutralizing the
>Black man first was/is the actual tactic).



The idea of neutralizing the Black man first is worth mentioning. I can't help but think it's either intentional or just... lazy that it wasn't. We do hear a good speech about the empowerment of the Black woman from Janelle's character however, which was a nice movie moment imo.



>And also we have to
>remember he was enslaved at that point... who knows what kind
>of injuries he might have been fighting with? Even that shit
>they did to his back earlier in the film could have rendered
>him a weaker fighter still by the time of that later escape
>attempt. It's not like they were being taken care of/had
>access to healthcare or anything.



These are legit considerations. Imo, the movie fails in that they have to be assumptions rather than things we can confirm.



>If your issue is with the idea that little Monae could have
>taken out Denton tho, then I donno... I don't think we should
>put anything past a woman trying to fight her way back to her
>child/family.



I don't have a problem with women winning/beating up dudes. I just hate that there was a Black man present who was pretty useless in the fight. It wouldn't have ruined the movie in the slightest had they escaped together.



>And maybe that was a point Bush + Renz were
>trying to make intentionally? Denton's confederate thugs
>brutally murdered that guy's wife right in front of him, which
>must have been excruciatingly traumatic and emasculating etc.
>Maybe not only brutalizing the Black man but taking away all
>he had to fight for (and rubbing it in his face, by making him
>clean up her remains in that death shed) made him a weaker
>fighter and more susceptible to Denton's intent to kill him
>once and for all. In contrast, throughout Monae's time at that
>plantation we see her reminding herself of her family (eg.
>running her hands over the replica of her daughter's picture
>she carved into the wood) and her motivation to escape. And
>perhaps that made her a more desperate and ruthless fighter.



Yaknow, I'd think he'd have that much more rage inside him to kill the guy after what he did to his wife. Like... I can't even imagine. That's actually another level that just turned me all the way off. If some racist mufucka did that shit to any Black man I know, that Black man would rip him apart with his bare hands. Don't get me wrong, grief affects people different. However, he was even saying all this shit under his breath while picking cotton, like he was just WAITING for the chance to get at dude. The ease with which he was killed just didn't add up. Seems like there should've been more fire and determination on his part as well.



>Lol, I'm just glad to get a chance to talk about it. No one I
>know in real life has bothered to check it out. I def think
>it's worth watching tho.


Lol, yeah I hate when that happens. I actually watched this with a lady friend. I fell asleep (because I was tired) and woke up to her saying she didn't like it, because it wasn't the horror film she expected. I thought it was probably good and her expectations ruined it for her. I was actually glad it wasn't a horror film and liked the actual concept better. Just had other issues with it.