When Judas and the Black Messiah trailer plays it looks great until you hear Daniel Kaluuya. Then I say maybe Fred Hampton sounded like that... goes to YouTube find a clip of Hampton speaking, he don’t sound like that at all. Bottomline it’s bad acting, and bad casting but in this pussy society where everyone gets a trophy you don’t get called out when you need improvement.

but in this pussy society where
>everyone gets a trophy you don’t get called out when you
>need improvement.

huh?

But I will say that not all great actors are great mimics. I personally don't need a biopic performance to be a great imitation of the original person for it to be effective. There's a magic sometimes in the synthesis of the actor with the material.

However, all that being said, a guy who could have nailed Hampton's tones was Eddie Murphy. It's a shame he didn't make a great movie in that role in the 80's (of course the funding prospects for something so "transgressive" in those days was probably way more difficult).

Maybe it might still be possible through "the Irishman"-style de-aging??? LOL no god forbid...Fred Hampton with White Walker blue eyes isn't something the world is ready for.

A “JFK”-era Oliver Stone Panther pic starring Murphy? I need the singularity so AI can recreate this.

the only thing I liked him in was Black Panther but that mainly because it's a good movie. I liked pretty much everyone but him in Get Out


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Not to say it was bad but I loved him in Widows (the movie wasn't great but he was) and his episode of Black Mirror

I don't necessarily care as much that he sounds like Fred as I care that his voice doesn't take me out of the movie. That's the value of the actor being a great mimic, I get to think about the character instead of the actor.

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Kaluuya is the guest, and one of Jemele's first questions was "you sound JUST like Fred Hampton, how did you do that?"

Just on that end she loses some points.

I think he did well with his voice. Movie was good. There’s a lot of people who don’t know who Fred Hampton was. Hopefully, this will change that.

https://www.complex.com/music/noname-passed-judas-and-the-black-messiah-soundtrack

I'll still probably check it out. If what Noname is correct, it's kinda weird to see Fred Hampton Jr. supporting the film. I'm really over Black liberals telling the stories of Black radicals. It's always watered down.

so I’m not sure I get her angle in this. Maybe they presented it as a Fred Hampton film but the trailer pretty much gave the impression the story would be about Darius more than Fred Hampton.

I’m looking forward to it.

I expect it to be problematic since its probably more about the Judas

..Its a film that details how Hampton was set up and assassinated.

That doesn't prevent anyone from showcasing other facets of Hampton's life & politics. As a matter of fact, this film might be the spark for another aspiring or accomplished director to delve further into Hampton's life.

Managing expectations.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

its a fictionalized film of real events

we put this kinda stuff on too much of a pedestal

folks should just watch the documentary instead.

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