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https://twitter.com/justicedems/status/1356439260002410497?

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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CKxlyx4g-Yb/?utm_source=ig_embed

Imagine if they would have seen her.

Can she testify?

Powerful

and you can see the PTSD on her face reliving those moments

Ds need to start the removal process for all 147 officials that challenged the election results.

even the dum-dum libs are listening to her.

there are people i grew up with who are more centrist or lean right who despise her but they never have an actual reason. if you ask them its always some vague shit about socialism or cow farts, but they can never point to whatever it is about her that she's said or done that actually triggers them.

there's a local mural that went up a few months ago for hispanic heritage month. it only took days before someone defaced her part.

is it simply her being brown, female and outspoken and fox kinda made her the face of the 'new' left?

i mean she's def to the left of me too but i respect the fuck out of her.

>is it simply her being brown, female and outspoken and fox
>kinda made her the face of the 'new' left?

add "young" to that list. But yep.

me: why?
co-worker: she's anti-semetic
me: uhh...you realize Bernie Sanders was her inspiration for entering politics

<<<crickets>>>

We know exactly why people don't like her
Sexism and Racism
but damn if they won't search the ends of the earth to call it something else.

Outspoken, brown, woman.

They try to swear up and down that she's "dumb" and his ridiculous ideas. And ain't neither one of those things remotely true. And as far as her being some "radical socialist," her ideas ain't even that fucking far left. I'd like to hear any of their mental gymnastics as to why they don't hate Bernie like they hate her.

>We know exactly why people don't like her
>Sexism and Racism
>but damn if they won't search the ends of the earth to call it
>something else.

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not much more you have to do to rationalize it

edit:
also I think her social media presence is what fuels most of it

She makes a point of agitating / making pronouncements on Twitter, and Twitter has a way of making people act out of character within political discourse

She pushes buttons on purpose

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>She makes a point of agitating / making pronouncements on
>Twitter, and Twitter has a way of making people act out of
>character within political discourse
>
>She pushes buttons on purpose


smh

but the way she presents it clearly triggers the right

U triggered bro?

Pelosi pretty much had a visceral reaction in her last 60 minutes interview when she was asked about AOC

She tried to walk it back like "Nah, i respect her" but it was too late lol

I mean all this shit is 100% true

but throwing out this stuff in tweets where it can be screen-captured and circulated and digested in 2 seconds (vs. a longer screed where she puts forth a plan of action that nobody on the right or left will have the attention span for) just makes people who hate her hate her more without having to actually listen to what she's saying

She's very clapback heavy

It's delightful. The GOP doesn't have any interest in legislating, so their congresspeople primarily exist to confirm judges when they have a majority and to act like psychos on cable news and social media when they don't.

Glad somebody is truly up for combat on the field of posting.

for the Pelosi matter.... Pelosi has ways of dealing with that, out of sight: AOC was basically denied membership on a number of committees this time around.

(likewise, not by Pelosi, but by Waters: Katie Porter, who seems to be the far-less problematic heir apparent to Elizabeth Warren, who defied expectations of "purple" districts like the one in Orange County, California Porter represents, was also denied membership in Financial Services. In her place, 3 freshmen: Torres (NY), Williams (GA, John Lewis's replacement), Auchincloss (MA, a Pelosi pick who snuck into Joe Kennedy III's vacated seat). The old guard is not amused by AOC and her comrades.)

jumped on a virtual town hall about public banks in NY State

if I compare the two hours I spent listening to Eric Hardmeyer from the Bank of North Dakota talk with the two seconds I spend reading a AOC tweet, it's clear a well-timed clapback tweet can raise the blood pressure so much more effectively

but with so many people vilifying moderate dems (people I know too), try sitting through some 2 hour town halls with the head of the Bank of North Dakota talking about public banks and see if it doesn't cool your jets a little

Just unblinking enthusiasm for building durable institutions that meet people's material needs. They're like golden retrievers. I don't get it, but I love them to pieces.

>if I compare the two hours I spent listening to Eric Hardmeyer
>from the Bank of North Dakota talk with the two seconds I
>spend reading a AOC tweet, it's clear a well-timed clapback
>tweet can raise the blood pressure so much more effectively
>
>but with so many people vilifying moderate dems (people I know
>too), try sitting through some 2 hour town halls with the head
>of the Bank of North Dakota talking about public banks and see
>if it doesn't cool your jets a little

Right? The fine print of "we've got a world to win" is that you've got to build and keep it. That said, I think the problem of confusing posting for praxis is pretty common across the political spectrum.

Which, I mean, of course career politicians would hate.

>Pelosi pretty much had a visceral reaction in her last 60
>minutes interview when she was asked about AOC
>
>She tried to walk it back like "Nah, i respect her" but it was
>too late lol

but you are making excuses for haters/the right, to do what they do.

Her post on twitter triggers the right ? what ?

what don't you get?

Anything is enough to hate it, has nothing to do with pushing buttons or twitter. You giving the right too much credit.

not that she isn't correct usually, but she def know who her haters are and courts them.

... but actively back people like Ted Cruz and, y'know, Donald fucking Trump.

It's INSANE. Insane insane insane.

After 8 years of Bush's fucking hillbilly ass stumbling over "fool me once" cliches and shit like that on a daily basis, these repug jackasses had the nerve to criticize *anyone* at all - nevermind one of the most gifted orators this country has ever seen - about their public speaking skills ?!

I know conservative and rightwing hypocrisy and bad faith is infinite but jeezus christ did that stand out at the time.

Then those same neanderthals gave us Trump !

Mind melting.

it wasn't for lack of trying or repetition, but at very least it didn't bleed over to CNN or bill maher asking if repubs have a point about the whole teleprompter thing.

and to your point, they even more recently just came off going balls out in defending Sara Palin who couldn't count to 10 without looking at her fingers.

>it wasn't for lack of trying or repetition, but at very least
>it didn't bleed over to CNN or bill maher asking if repubs
>have a point about the whole teleprompter thing.
>
>and to your point, they even more recently just came off going
>balls out in defending Sara Palin who couldn't count to 10
>without looking at her fingers.

The absurdity of rightwing punditry knows no fucking bounds.

they hate her because deep down they are attracted to her

and it was a dude like tearfully apologizing to everyone else that he can no longer keep up his part in the aoc hatefest because he was in love with her.

most of the thread was dudes cursing him out and questioning his commitment to the cause. but one of funniest parts was that there were other dudes coming out the shadows to admit their attraction to her...and dudes were like noooooo not you too bro!

and they were all so serious.

grown ass white men with jobs and families carrying on like this.

i have no idea why we dont do a better job of portraying the whole conservative movement as just lame and pathetic.

>and it was a dude like tearfully apologizing to everyone else
>that he can no longer keep up his part in the aoc hatefest
>because he was in love with her.
>
>most of the thread was dudes cursing him out and questioning
>his commitment to the cause. but one of funniest parts was
>that there were other dudes coming out the shadows to admit
>their attraction to her...and dudes were like noooooo not you
>too bro!
>
>and they were all so serious.
>
>grown ass white men with jobs and families carrying on like
>this.
>
>i have no idea why we dont do a better job of portraying the
>whole conservative movement as just lame and pathetic.

>and it was a dude like tearfully apologizing to everyone else
>that he can no longer keep up his part in the aoc hatefest
>because he was in love with her.
>
>most of the thread was dudes cursing him out and questioning
>his commitment to the cause. but one of funniest parts was
>that there were other dudes coming out the shadows to admit
>their attraction to her...and dudes were like noooooo not you
>too bro!
>
>and they were all so serious.
>
>grown ass white men with jobs and families carrying on like
>this.
>
>i have no idea why we dont do a better job of portraying the
>whole conservative movement as just lame and pathetic.

she is with a white dude so maybe they sense an opening LMAO

for years. So it's not surprising.

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we legit almost had some third rail shit happen

And how that relates to this experience for her

And these MFs still pile on with their senseless hate for her

I’m amazed at how strong she is, she’s so young and up against all this sexism, racism, ageism, u name it

Ted Cruz and whoever has that vile piece of shit’s back are straight up trash

And those like her.

>I’m amazed at how strong she is, she’s so young and up
>against all this sexism, racism, ageism, u name it

and how she described hearing the call outs of, “where is she?”

scary...

>RE: it still trips me out them people got in there...

^^^^ that very fact alone is absolutely mindmelting, nevermind details like the below.


>and how she described hearing the call outs of, “where is
>she?”
>
>scary...

i dont think people realize the threshold we crossed that day.

and even tho joe biden winning feels good...countries dont normally reverse the direction/decline that led them to this point for a while.

things tend to keep moving further in the direction that allowed this to occur in the 1st place.

the international community watched stunned and in horror watching images that looked like something out of latin america or eastern europe. and its already pretty much a background story over here as we turn our focus to other less meaningful shit.

theres a reason in other countries...when people incite/encourage/plan/participate in a failed coupe/insurrection...they get jailed/executed. all of them.

but over here they keep their congressional jobs, get let out on bail to go vacation in mexico, get humanizing writes ups in trendy publications, etc.

It was just the start

our beer hall putsch

ugh. I am dissapointed with humanity.

... movement called "Know Your Enemy" and they had a good episode about this after the coup attempt.

They basically read a bunch of books about European fascism from the 20s, 30s, and 40s to try and map out where we are right now on the path to full-on fascism. And the subsequent reaction to 1.6 was obviously a big topic of convo.

Strangely, the conclusions they came to actually made me feel a bit better about where we are - primarily because of how lucky we are that these people are mostly mediocre white neanderthals. But I still feel the same way as all of you - that it feels like we have collectively "moved on" as a country rather than still being appalled and on high alert about all of this.

And the fact that congresspeople like Greene still feel so emboldened to speak out and act like they are doing speaks to exactly that. They're suffering almost zero consequences.

It's terrifying.

There was that clip from the BBC reporter that I think you uploaded. It felt like watching a report of another country.


Reading what the Ukraine president said hit me hard too. Those folks know as much as anyone about fighting for their democracy. His words were a sobering contrast to the tone of major American news outlets.

https://twitter.com/im_PULSE/status/1356621858599301125

some of us on here warned yall about these folks.

as soon as it became clear she wasnt gonna be a black/brown mule for their anti dem party crusade...they showed their entire ass.

most people know jimmy dore is a quack. even the young turks are beefing with him. but glenn greenwald still has some sort of following even after an absolutely disastrous last 4 years and i cant explain it.

but then again there are supposedly progressive people out there who still stan for tulsi gabbard.

why do you check for him?

dude sounds like is a wolf

but his crying about "censorship" after the insurrection is giving peak white. And his reaction to AOC has been needlessly antagonistic. I have no idea why he has an audience (i mean, I have a good idea...but yknow)

Felt that way longgggg before this

I’ll never understand looking at some of these Political Instagram Influencer Bros as aligned with us

"we were talking about the super bowl and you changed the subject to aoc again. who else can't stop talking about aoc?"

" :( my dad"

It's nice to at least some people finally getting this - though there still is mega resistance to her from far too many bastions of the party (many of whom have appeased the right-wing lunacy narratives about her).

I hope she challenges Schumer for his Senate seat.

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That the vitriol toward her has been too much.
I kinda think this may have been the breaking point for her.
I hope it's not, but I keep thinking about that interview.

how dare you!

yes, this is sarcasm

prior to her 2nd term.

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That's what I was trying to get across.
Here's an excerpt from the interview.

--Is there a universe in which they’re hostile enough that we’re talking about a Senate run in a couple years?

AOC: I genuinely don’t know. I don’t even know if I want to be in politics. You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn’t even know if I was going to run for re-election this year.

--Really? Why?

AOC: It’s the incoming. It’s the stress. It’s the violence. It’s the lack of support from your own party. It’s your own party thinking you’re the enemy. When your own colleagues talk anonymously in the press and then turn around and say you’re bad because you actually append your name to your opinion.

I chose to run for re-election because I felt like I had to prove that this is real. That this movement was real. That I wasn’t a fluke. That people really want guaranteed health care and that people really want the Democratic Party to fight for them.

But I’m serious when I tell people the odds of me running for higher office and the odds of me just going off trying to start a homestead somewhere — they’re probably the same.

>That's what I was trying to get across.
>Here's an excerpt from the interview.
>
>--Is there a universe in which they’re hostile enough that
>we’re talking about a Senate run in a couple years?
>
>AOC: I genuinely don’t know. I don’t even know if I want
>to be in politics. You know, for real, in the first six months
>of my term, I didn’t even know if I was going to run for
>re-election this year.
>
>--Really? Why?
>
>AOC: It’s the incoming. It’s the stress. It’s the
>violence. It’s the lack of support from your own party.
>It’s your own party thinking you’re the enemy. When your
>own colleagues talk anonymously in the press and then turn
>around and say you’re bad because you actually append your
>name to your opinion.
>
>I chose to run for re-election because I felt like I had to
>prove that this is real. That this movement was real. That I
>wasn’t a fluke. That people really want guaranteed health
>care and that people really want the Democratic Party to fight
>for them.
>
>But I’m serious when I tell people the odds of me running
>for higher office and the odds of me just going off trying to
>start a homestead somewhere — they’re probably the same.

It'd be one thing if she was just getting the ridiculous hate and smearing from the GOP - but she had to also deal w/ the maligning of her character by people in her own party.

It's satisfying to see her start to win the day from the same people who swore her off and said she was "lucky" to beat Joe Crowley as if she was just some one-hit wonder with no substance. They were wrong.

I have a feeling she's in this for long haul. Long live AOC's tenure.


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that and bernie getting crushed in the primary showed her she needed to improve her balancing act between being an activist/ideologue and a politician if she has greater aspirations in government.

i remember how much flack she caught when she gave that speech saying progressives have to do a much better job crafting an inclusive message and toning down the divisiveness.

but she reached the right conclusion and the turbulence she faced personally was a big reason she corrected course and got to that destination.

It's funny how your talking point is how AOC needed to change because of the primary - when all the other Dems who backed candidates who *really* got crushed don't have to change a single thing about their messaging lol.

But again - not sure why Bernie always has to be dragged into the discussion - but since we're talking about him yet again - it's his success as a movement-oriented candidate that enabled AOC to be as bold and authentic as she is. Indeed, she has always cited Bernie as her inspiration for even wanting to get involved in politics. So this notion that she's somehow looking at Bernie's (wildly successful and transformational) outsider primary challenges as instruction on how *not* to campaign is hilarious.

She has not compromised one iota on the principles that got her elected - she's simply becoming more savvy as to how best to achieve her goals.

Yet she's still facing the same non-sense from doubters, "hazers", and traditionalists who can't see beyond their own blind allegiance to party orthodoxy.


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Nah

when you're cheering on career politicians trying to crush every youth movement/leader then turn around and lie about young people not being involved.





(Ps you are old, and cant fathom that incrementalism is no longer the wave.)

I hope she stays around, and stays true to herself, too.

for her to be pushed out of politics because of the lack of vision and succession planning by Dinosaur Dems. And yet - it wouldn't surprise a single soul.

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i like her but cmon now lol.

theres a reason why ny state is represented by people like cuomo, schumer, and gillibrand. 60% of the population is outside of nyc (and she might not even win nyc).

are in Congress representing NY. The momentum is changing; it's time to start challenging conventional thinking on this.

Schumer is a lot more vulnerable than people think he is - especially if the challenge is coming from a superstar like AOC. It'd be a lot closer than you think.


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who dont have to appeal to the broader ny dem electorate, much less the broader statewide general electorate.

there are a lot of demos/factions across the state that have specific voting patterns and candidate preferences. and the reality is that candidates as far to the left as aoc dont appeal to enough of them.

whos a bigger star than bernie? he only got ~40% of the vote in an ny primary in 2016 and would have done even worse in 2020 if he was still running (got less than 20% officially but he did that weird drop out but still campaign shit to try sneak in a few more delegates).

and bernie actually appeals to some white voters outside of nyc that aoc doesnt.

nothing about an aoc/schumer race would surprise me or deviate from my prediction. im pretty sure id call it close to the official results.

Mondaire Jones won outside of NYC (running on a very progressive platform) in a congressional district comprised of 70%+ white voters.

Meanwhile Bowman peeled off the same kind of long-standing Dem stalwart (Engel) who you say is impossible to defeat in a primary.

But I'm still trying to figure out what your angle is. First you said AOC was just a candidate for white lefties - but now she can't win in white districts? Can't have it both ways fam.

>nothing about an aoc/schumer race would surprise me or deviate
>from my prediction. im pretty sure id call it close to the
>official results.

Will be interesting to see if this primary takes shape in 2022. Let's revisit it then.


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https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/oct/29
Harper's Weekly

On October 29, 1869, a white mob attacked and brutally whipped a 52-year-old Black man named Abram Colby because of his political advocacy. Abram Colby was born into slavery in Greene County, Georgia, in approximately 1817. The son of an enslaved Black woman and a white landowner, Mr. Colby was emancipated 15 years before the end of American slavery and worked tirelessly to organize newly free Black people following the Civil War. A Radical Republican who stood for racial equality, Mr. Colby was elected to serve in the Georgia House of Representatives during Reconstruction. His impassioned advocacy for Black civil rights earned him the attention of the local Ku Klux Klan, a terrorist organization founded in 1865 to resist Reconstruction and restore white supremacy through targeted violence against Black people and their white political allies.

Three years after being attacked by a mob of white Klansmen, when called to Washington, DC, to testify about the assault before a Congressional committee investigating reports of racial violence in the South, Mr. Colby bravely identified his attackers as some of the “first class men in our town. One is a lawyer, one a doctor, and some are farmers.” Shortly before the attack, Mr. Colby explained, the men had tried to bribe him to change parties or give up his office. Mr. Colby refused to do either and days later they returned:

On October 29,1869, broke my door open, took me out of bed, took me to the woods and whipped me three hours or more and left me for dead. They said to me, “Do you think you will ever vote another damned Radical ticket?” I said, “If there was an election tomorrow, I would vote the Radical ticket.” They set in and whipped me a thousand licks more, with sticks and straps that had buckles on the ends of them.

Mr. Colby told the committee that the attack had “broken something inside of ,” and that the Klan’s continued harassment and violent assaults had forced him to abandon his re-election campaign. Mr. Colby testified most emotionally about the attack’s impact on his daughter, who was home when the white mob seized him to be whipped: “My little daughter begged them not to carry me away. They drew up a gun and actually frightened her to death. She never got over it until she died. That was the part that grieves me the most.”


America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.