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13412888, What is Biden’s cabinet going to look like?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Nov-08-20 01:16 AM
Some big spots to fill...

Sec of State

Treasury

Defense

AG

Are a few of the picks...

there’s talk the some progressives will try to shoehorn their people in there...
13412889, AG will be Doug Jones for sure
Posted by blackfoot_female, Sun Nov-08-20 01:21 AM
Most of the names I was kinda disappointed seeing. Meg Whitman for one.
13412915, Mitch McConnell says hi
Posted by vik, Sun Nov-08-20 10:58 AM

>there’s talk the some progressives will try to shoehorn
>their people in there...
13412921, ugh, if Meg Whitman's there, that'd be a disaster.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Nov-08-20 12:25 PM
Not a Trump-level disaster... but very, very un-good.
13412957, No fucking Billionaires or bankers PLEASE...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Sun Nov-08-20 04:45 PM
...if his cabinet is anything like Obama's, we're fucked





13412924, Susan Rice for Secy of State
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Nov-08-20 12:35 PM
13412944, That’s what I’m rooting for, she was setup for that for Obama’s...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Nov-08-20 01:32 PM
2nd term but she had to take one for the team and eat that Benghazi shit for Hillary so she could run for prez
13412958, I'm honestly against Rice for that reason.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Nov-08-20 04:49 PM
I just don't think there's any reason for Biden to drudge up Benghazi again if he can avoid it. Literally everything she'd do for the next four years would be "oh, ol' Benghazi Rice is back at it again."

Granted, Republicans will find an angle to bitch about everything. But Benghazi is just one of those things that won't die for a long, long time. It'd be better to not put someone so close to it in a position where they'd be part of a Senate confirmation hearing imo.

It's not even Rice's fault. We just gotta dodge the obvious bullets of dumbassery.
13412961, agreed like I said she took that bullet for Hilldawg, but it’s also...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Nov-08-20 06:03 PM
not like the GOP is going to let them go crazy with uber “progressive” picks
13413089, Susan Rice is pretty status-quo vis-a-vis her foreign policy
Posted by Vex_id, Mon Nov-09-20 02:16 PM
She would be a return to the Bush-era Colin Powell type of interventionist foreign policy. Rice (along with Clinton) was among the strongest voices in Obama's ear urging him to intervene in Libya - a disastrous decision that Obama cites as the biggest mistake of his presidency - and a decision which ultimately saw him split with Clinton and trust his solid original instincts and philosophy on foreign policy.

I don't think you'd see much push-back from Republicans on Rice (outside of the Benghazi lunatics). She's essentially a best-case scenario for neo-cons who largely share her views on America's role in the world.


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13413082, Yeah I don't think its worth it when there are other qualified people.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Nov-09-20 02:09 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13412928, these initial lists that leak out are usually mostly bullshit.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Nov-08-20 12:40 PM
13412966, I just want to see new blood
Posted by bigkarma, Sun Nov-08-20 08:07 PM
I will be sorely disappointed if I see a bunch of DNC retreads from the Clinton and Obama administrations. I know the Obama administration was only four years ago, but the current DNC needs a house cleaning.

Also, Stacey Abrams needs to chair the DNC. I think her goal is to run for governor of GA again in 2022, but her skills are needed to do the same things she's doing for Georgia, on a national level.

13412967, RE: I just want to see new blood
Posted by rzaroch36, Sun Nov-08-20 08:09 PM
>I will be sorely disappointed if I see a bunch of DNC
>retreads from the Clinton and Obama administrations. I know
>the Obama administration was only four years ago, but the
>current DNC needs a house cleaning.
>
>Also, Stacey Abrams needs to chair the DNC. I think her goal
>is to run for governor of GA again in 2022, but her skills are
>needed to do the same things she's doing for Georgia, on a
>national level.
>
>

She needs to be involved for sure. Get more gov’t experience and exposure nationally.
13412970, Every DNC chair from the last decade has been shat on
Posted by kfine, Sun Nov-08-20 09:28 PM
mercilessly both internally and externally before the post tanked whatever popularity the person had lol

*ESPECIALLY* the southern black woman (Donna Brazile wasn't that long ago)

Literally the most thankless job ever where they're powerless to do anything but top brass bidding and the electorate blames them for everything

She's only ever confirmed in interviews a desire to run for Governor again and then Pres; Dems tried like crazy to persuade her to run for Senate (and failed).

So I guess we'll see.


All I know is I can't wait until she runs for pres lol... She's the only high profile black female politician that I relate to/root for on a deep level. I think it's her unsung hero shit.


>
>Also, Stacey Abrams needs to chair the DNC. I think her goal
>is to run for governor of GA again in 2022, but her skills are
>needed to do the same things she's doing for Georgia, on a
>national level.
>
>
13412990, I think Senate is the more realistic route for her...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Nov-09-20 08:07 AM
>mercilessly both internally and externally before the post
>tanked whatever popularity the person had lol
>
>*ESPECIALLY* the southern black woman (Donna Brazile wasn't
>that long ago)
>
>Literally the most thankless job ever where they're powerless
>to do anything but top brass bidding and the electorate blames
>them for everything
>
>She's only ever confirmed in interviews a desire to run for
>Governor again and then Pres; Dems tried like crazy to
>persuade her to run for Senate (and failed).
>
>So I guess we'll see.
>
>
>All I know is I can't wait until she runs for pres lol...
>She's the only high profile black female politician that I
>relate to/root for on a deep level. I think it's her unsung
>hero shit.
>
>
>>
>>Also, Stacey Abrams needs to chair the DNC. I think her goal
>>is to run for governor of GA again in 2022, but her skills
>are
>>needed to do the same things she's doing for Georgia, on a
>>national level.
>>
>>
>
13413112, Yeah she doesn't need the DNC Chair. That job is a graveyard.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Nov-09-20 03:18 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13413083, Vanita Gupta for AG!!
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Nov-09-20 02:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GudXMXetnE


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13413099, personally i dont want one of these principled goody two shoes types
Posted by Reeq, Mon Nov-09-20 02:35 PM
in the role of ag.

i want a sneakily partisan dem ag thats gonna say all the right boy/girl scout things in front of a camera and then behind the scenes make it a point to destroy the repub power base and target conservative super pacs, churches, nra, white supremacist groups, militias, lax social media policies that promote disinformation, etc.
13413123, AOC had to remind Rahm Emmanuel about a ghost from his past
Posted by lsymone, Mon Nov-09-20 03:57 PM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1325838653701156867
13413124, yeah, but what does John Kasich think
Posted by will_5198, Mon Nov-09-20 04:02 PM
13415970, RE: What is Biden’s cabinet going to look like?
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Dec-09-20 04:28 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/lloyd-austin-secretary-of-defense-joe-biden/index.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/secretary-defense/617330/
13416009, from what i have so far it looks pretty diverse
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-10-20 08:22 AM
13416044, definitely more so than the previous administration
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Dec-10-20 10:53 AM
13416036, Lol @ Neera Tanden and Tom Vilsack.
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Dec-10-20 10:37 AM
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13416050, I LOL'ed too. *smh*
Posted by Airbreed, Thu Dec-10-20 11:11 AM
.
13416038, "Nothing will fundamentally change" - Biden
Posted by Brotha Sun, Thu Dec-10-20 10:40 AM
13416053, ^ this
Posted by infin8, Thu Dec-10-20 11:27 AM
shxt is looking like Romper Room already.
13417119, Mayor Pete for Transportation Sec is the first one that I don't like
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Dec-17-20 10:45 AM
I know we're coming off the Trump admin where experience and competence were frowned upon.

It seemed like Biden was going in the other direction. Putting people in places where it made sense. People with some experience related to the cabinet post.

And I was hoping there wouldn't be the strictly political give away cabinet positions. But I guess inevitably it goes that way.

Buttigieg has no experience with transportation/infrastructure or experience managing a big organization, or experience in federal government/bureaucracy in general. He went from small town mayor directly to a cabinet secretary.

To a lesser degree, Becerra at HHS isn't desirable either. I wish it were someone health policy or health administration experience

13417124, you knew he was getting something
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Dec-17-20 11:28 AM
13417125, remember Obama told him to drop out of the race, yeah this is why
Posted by lsymone, Thu Dec-17-20 11:32 AM
notice not one Progressive is being looked at, yet Biden is thinking of certain Republicans for Depart. of Commerce.
13417147, Right - this was inevitable after how Pete caped for Biden
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Dec-17-20 12:49 PM
I mean - I'm not gonna go too crazy because it's just nice to have Trump & Co. out of the f'ing White House.

But Pete's qualifications for Transportation Sec.?

1) Caping for Biden in the primary and villainizing Sanders
2) Reminding Joe of Beau

>notice not one Progressive is being looked at, yet Biden is
>thinking of certain Republicans for Depart. of Commerce.

Expect a lot more of that. Biden been out here lecturing Progressives and equating them with the far-right. Biden will be who he's always been: center-right politician who has spent his career appeasing Conservatives, Israel, Corporate interest & the surveillance state.
13417162, bro you campaigned for conservative tulsi gabbard in real life.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Dec-17-20 01:51 PM
you can stop the fauxgressive routine at this point and just say youre anti mainstream dem party. its ok.
13417169, lol
Posted by Lurkmode, Thu Dec-17-20 02:15 PM
n/m
13417171, If Tulsi is a “conservative” what does that make your top candidates?
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Dec-17-20 02:25 PM
Fam is out here cheerleading for Clinton and Biden and calling out “Conservative Dems” lol.

If she really was that you’d be caping for her too. Those are your people.
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13417173, what do you call amplifying project veritas attacks on ilhan omar,
Posted by Reeq, Thu Dec-17-20 02:38 PM
sponsoring anti trans legislation, and introducing bills to criminalize abortion?

where does that fit on the performative progressive platform?

cuz thats boilerplate republican party stuff right there. and biden aint the one doing it.
13417174, Yea she’s fucked up a few times
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Dec-17-20 02:44 PM
Far from perfect and has some blind spots.

In totality? Her fuck-ups are minuscule to those who authored the Patriot Act and fell in line to the Pentagon & Wall Street (you know, things you don’t care about as a partisan obsessed politico).

There’s a reason Nina Turner loves Tulsi - and it ain’t because she’s “anti-trans” or a conservative.

That being said - your mischaracterizations are classic Neera Tanden levels of trolling. The Human Rights Campaign gives her the highest marks on LGBQT equality - I’ll trust them over your misinformed smearing.

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13417187, lol look at this lying ass motherfucker
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Dec-17-20 04:37 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13417195, ^look at this lame clown who can’t point out the lie
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Dec-17-20 06:24 PM

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13417196, "lame" is ableist btw
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Dec-17-20 06:29 PM
and you describe "legislation written and signed by tulsi gabbard" as a "smear against her"

that's your problem

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13417218, Lol you haven’t even read the legislation
Posted by Vex_id, Fri Dec-18-20 07:57 AM
You read a headline and feel like you’re informed.

Move along and let adults handle this one.
13417219, you got an ultra conservative senator to support man
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Dec-18-20 08:09 AM
don't let me waste your time

gotta protect women by not at all protecting women ever

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13417242, ^Attacking people instead of ideas.
Posted by Brotha Sun, Fri Dec-18-20 10:47 AM
This is the tactic liberals use because they have no core principles. They think politics is sports and not life or death.
13417152, I totally disagree.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Dec-17-20 12:58 PM
Biden has taken an office that no one gives seems to give a sh*t about and has put a party rock star in the department and now I've heard more talk about high speed rails and the Department of Transportation than I have heard in years. I mean can anyone name a former DoT Secretary besides Mitch McConnell's wife?

And as a mayor of a city, even a small city, he certainly has experience managing a department of transportation.

In fact, his department of transportation is award-winning.

https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/SouthBend.pdf

Also former DoT Secretaries have been former mayors or congressmen so this is in line with that.

What Trump did was put people with no experience or aptitude in high-level Cabinet positions based solely on loyalty and donorship.

Thats no where near similar to putting smart people, who have some experience in who can work with experienced people.

>I know we're coming off the Trump admin where experience and
>competence were frowned upon.
>
>It seemed like Biden was going in the other direction. Putting
>people in places where it made sense. People with some
>experience related to the cabinet post.
>
>And I was hoping there wouldn't be the strictly political give
>away cabinet positions. But I guess inevitably it goes that
>way.
>
>Buttigieg has no experience with transportation/infrastructure
>or experience managing a big organization, or experience in
>federal government/bureaucracy in general. He went from small
>town mayor directly to a cabinet secretary.
>
>To a lesser degree, Becerra at HHS isn't desirable either. I
>wish it were someone health policy or health administration
>experience
>
>


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13417159, people who have been wrong about everything for the last 4 yrs
Posted by Reeq, Thu Dec-17-20 01:42 PM
are still armchair quarterbacking biden like they have some sort of expertise or good judgment. its the weirdest thing.

the most successful aspects of bidens run have pretty much been him just doing the complete opposite of what they said he should do.
13417165, You're making my point (his qualification is his name)
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Dec-17-20 01:59 PM
You just see it as a good thing. And I don't necessarily disagree. I just don't think it should be the only thing.

Yeah he's done some things with bike lanes in South Bend. But can he handle ***Infrastructure Week***

I look at cabinet secretaries kind of like CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. Pete may have the qualities to handle it. But he hasn't had the chance to demonstrate it at a lower level
13417158, dot is gonna be at the forefront of the climate change agenda.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Dec-17-20 01:36 PM
while superficial ‘progressives’ are getting salty over the fact he isnt elevating bernie loyalists (what they mean when *they* say progressive)...his picks for dot, epa, interior, energy, etc show him quietly reconfiguring the larger shell agencies/departments to prioritize a broader large scale turn towards a greener future.

nuances like that arent in the headlines/notifications tho and most people dont really care enough to dig deeper and see the bigger picture.

his proposed pick for interior dept has been one of the most vocal anti-fracking and green new deal supporters in congress. but since she iant a prominent bernie cheerleader than i guess she isnt progressive.

13417161, Charlotte’s Anthony Foxx was in that role with Obama 2014 to ‘17
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-17-20 01:49 PM
I think all you need is a forward thinking mind in that chair who is going to push rail.

I know in Charlotte Foxxe was in a heated battle with NC gov who didn’t want to fund rail in Charlotte.

He bounced for that Sec or Transpo and I believe it helped Charlotte get funding and now we have light rail lines going in all over this city.



13417167, biden is putting in partisan operators he can trust
Posted by Reeq, Thu Dec-17-20 02:11 PM
to faithfully carry out his agenda.

which is something im glad a dem has finally woken up to like repubs have been doing.

these agencies have tons of career/political staff with plenty of experience on their own. why install a super experienced but independent/neutral head who might not even do what you want them to do? you can just install an exec to intentionally steer everyone in the direction that best suits your objectives with regard to the political/perception ramifications too.

pete is gonna work hard to get some ambitious achievements on the mantle to make biden look good and also bolster his own credentials for his future political aspirations. really a win/win for everyone if you care about end results/policy and not just the name tag pageantry.

i wouldnt be surprised if biden picked doug jones for doj to specifically take a sledgehammer to white/right wing extermist groups (while driving a stake through conservative political organizing/strength) and people still bitched about him not picking someone with enough experience inside formal/dc doj.
13417172, Like Tom Vilsack ? meh
Posted by Lurkmode, Thu Dec-17-20 02:28 PM
Pete has baggage and Joe can pick someone better than Doug Jones.

The leaked audio doesn't help.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/leaked-recording-biden-says-gop-used-defund-police-beat-living-n1250757
13417221, At 1 point dude was a top 5 POTUS candidate, now folks questioning...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Dec-18-20 08:28 AM
if he can run the DOT?
13417224, And Donald Trump was a top 1 POTUS candidate
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Dec-18-20 09:06 AM
President is a completely different thing. Since it's an elected position, it's less about competence and more about other stuff (themes, symbols, charisma, charm, inspiration, excitement, etc.)

Running for president doesn't prepare you for heading a 60,000 person organization.
13417170, Deb Haaland as Sec. of Interior is fantastic
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Dec-17-20 02:23 PM
Couldn’t have made a better choice.

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13417183, yep, historic appointment to be exact.
Posted by lsymone, Thu Dec-17-20 04:11 PM
a native indigenous representative to watch over federal land as it should be.
13417191, ^^^^^^
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Dec-17-20 05:45 PM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13417192, Hell yes.
Posted by Brew, Thu Dec-17-20 05:54 PM
13418874, Merrick Garland for Attorney General
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Jan-06-21 12:21 PM
Time to put all your fever dreams of Trump crony prosecutions away.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/biden-to-tap-merrick-garland-for-attorney-general-455410
13418875, Damn
Posted by Lurkmode, Wed Jan-06-21 12:24 PM
Wastes of a pick.
13418885, he has a history of prosecuting right wing extremism.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Jan-06-21 12:46 PM
if thats the focus of the doj then thats cool with me.

and i doubt he will just turn away investigations into the trump administration when theres smoke there.

doug jones was my 1st pick because i have a solid understanding of his politics when it comes to white supremacy, institutional racism, and criminal justice.

but merrick garland obviously knows the law/judiciary inside out and could be a more effective litigator/prosecutor across the board (and hopefully on those issues).
13418889, Plenty of yellow bottles with white caps
Posted by flipnile, Wed Jan-06-21 12:50 PM
13419716, biden: fuck austerity and deficit concerns.
Posted by Reeq, Sat Jan-09-21 06:10 PM
https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1348031632666718210

this should be music to many progressives ears (if they genuinely care about policy).
13424782, merrick garland will focus on discrimination and domestic terrorism.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Feb-22-21 08:19 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1363737437156093952

the same thing a lot of us wanted doug jones in the position for.

its pretty cool to see him mention the roots of the doj in reconstruction and how its 1st official mandate was fighting for equal rights for black people.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattgreenfield/status/1363475986810044423

looks like he is a true institutionalist and wants to plant the doj firmly on its original mission (will be much needed to battle the wave of voter suppression making its way through state legislatures).

i was kinda soft on garland but i think biden prolly chose the right person in the end.

not only based on what he will focus on...but also he was arguably the most powerful and knowledgeable legal mind on executive branch authority and constitutional compliance as the chief justice on the dc circuit court of appeals. so he will do a better job than anybody making sure cases are legally sound and not getting smacked down in court due to sloppy/overzealous litigation/prosecution.
13424798, Sen. Joe Manchin Opposes Neera Tanden’s Nomination
Posted by Lurkmode, Mon Feb-22-21 11:17 AM
along with Collins and Romney.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-susan-collins-deals-neera-tanden-s-omb-nomination-another-n1258483

https://www.wsj.com/articles/sen-joe-manchin-opposes-neera-tandens-nomination-to-lead-omb-11613770656


WASHINGTON—Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin said he would oppose Neera Tanden’s nomination to lead the Office of Management and Budget, citing her past statements on social media, a stance that imperils her chances of getting confirmed by the Senate.

Mr. Manchin, of West Virginia, said he made his decision after reviewing the comments critical of lawmakers she made on Twitter while she led the Center for American Progress, a center-left think tank.

Mr. Manchin, a centrist who represents a state that voted twice for former President Donald Trump, is seen as a swing vote in the Senate.

“I believe her overtly partisan statements will have a toxic and detrimental impact on the important working relationship between members of Congress and the next director of the Office of Management and Budget,” Mr. Manchin said in a Friday statement. “For this reason, I cannot support her nomination.”

President Biden said the nomination would go forward. “I think we are going to find the votes and get her confirmed,” he said. Asked by reporters if he planned to pull the nomination, he responded, “No.”
13424806, Good.
Posted by Airbreed, Mon Feb-22-21 12:26 PM
Send her packing back to msnbc.

She was a terrible choice.
13424807, Did the pearls you're clutching come out of your ass?
Posted by handle, Mon Feb-22-21 12:27 PM
>Send her packing back to msnbc.
>
>She was a terrible choice.

MSNBC, MERCY ME. the RADICAL SOCIALIST NETWORK.

FOH, they oppose her for being 'partisan???"'

FOH.

F
O
H

when it's a republican being artisan is what gets them in - if it's a democrat they also better be a republican.
13424815, horseshoe in full effect.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Feb-22-21 01:02 PM
'progressives' are popping bottles with the fake self righteous republicans and joe fucking manchin.

i dont even know how they explain that one away.
13424824, just reaching across the aisle.
Posted by Brotha Sun, Mon Feb-22-21 01:31 PM
13424832, radical centrism.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Feb-22-21 02:12 PM
13424823, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-neera-tanden-biden-s-new-pick-for-a-top-economic-role-has-been-called-a-terrible-leader-and-impossible-to-trust-by-some-of-her-former-colleagues/ar-BB1buIkC
Posted by Brotha Sun, Mon Feb-22-21 01:30 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-neera-tanden-biden-s-new-pick-for-a-top-economic-role-has-been-called-a-terrible-leader-and-impossible-to-trust-by-some-of-her-former-colleagues/ar-BB1buIkC


https://www.salon.com/2016/06/20/trump_proposed_taking_libyas_oil_in_return_for_bombing_it_just_like_clinton_ally_neera_tanden/



She's a pretty terrible person. I'm not familiar with her tweets, never paid them attention, but she is horrid. There's no real defense for her other than party loyalty.
13424837, yeah, i'm not really cheering on Joe Manchin here
Posted by GOMEZ, Mon Feb-22-21 02:46 PM
>She's a pretty terrible person. I'm not familiar with her
>tweets, never paid them attention, but she is horrid. There's
>no real defense for her other than party loyalty.

but yeah, Neera can suck an egg.
13425081, Manchin is just trying to massage his "bi-partisan" credentials
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Feb-24-21 09:56 AM
and tout his conservative democratic unicorn-ism. But nobody should be supporting Tanden's nomination, *especially* progressives.

Tanden's been a grotesque deficit hawk, has championed social security cuts, done all she can to hinder Medicare-for-all - and even implied that invading Libya for oil was sensible foreign policy.

Her "Center for American Progress" (which has been about anything *but* progress) has essentially been a vehicle for laundering corruption in government lobbying where she's acted as a Clinton henchman proxy for decades.

She ain't the one.

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13425138, Yup.
Posted by Airbreed, Wed Feb-24-21 02:13 PM
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-neera-tanden-biden-s-new-pick-for-a-top-economic-role-has-been-called-a-terrible-leader-and-impossible-to-trust-by-some-of-her-former-colleagues/ar-BB1buIkC
>
>
>https://www.salon.com/2016/06/20/trump_proposed_taking_libyas_oil_in_return_for_bombing_it_just_like_clinton_ally_neera_tanden/
>
>
>
>She's a pretty terrible person. I'm not familiar with her
>tweets, never paid them attention, but she is horrid. There's
>no real defense for her other than party loyalty.

exactly.


13424828, Damn does this woman have any peoples?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Feb-22-21 01:42 PM
I don't know if the fact that GOPers and Bernie folks hate her is good enough reason to like her, but I can't stomach GOPers talking about tone and decorum.



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13424834, She's about as toxic as it gets; bad choice for Biden
Posted by Vex_id, Mon Feb-22-21 02:28 PM
I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me why Tanden being confirmed is a good thing.

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13424835, You should look into her history yourself and form your own opinion
Posted by Brotha Sun, Mon Feb-22-21 02:29 PM
Its not really hard to do.


Iono. Letting chronic twitter trolls be in office doesn't sound like it'll end well. Sounds familiar.
13424839, Her peoples are the Clintons
Posted by Lurkmode, Mon Feb-22-21 02:55 PM
Bad pick by Biden.
13424841, yeah this was a bad pick just in the sense of strategy, vetting, etc
Posted by Stadiq, Mon Feb-22-21 03:03 PM

if nothing else.

Not sure why the Biden admin thought she'd get approved, regardless if one agrees or disagrees with why.


13425088, Sic semper union busters
Posted by Walleye, Wed Feb-24-21 10:36 AM
Couldn't have imagined a funnier outcome.
13425077, These cabinet appointee "fights" are dumb
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Feb-24-21 09:39 AM
On both sides.
The president was elected. He should be able to put who ever he wants in those cabinet positions.
They are supposed to act on his behalf anyways, so why does it even matter? You reject one nominee, then he'll just put some one else up who will follow the same guidance.

I thought the fights against Trump nominees were dumb. And the fights now equally dumb. Just pass them all through
13425079, Wait a min, what ?
Posted by Lurkmode, Wed Feb-24-21 09:51 AM
You think it was ok to confirm Sessions, Mnuchin, Perry, DeVos ? No pushback ? A rubber stamp for Trump selections ?


Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
13425086, Yes. Rubber stamp for all executive branch appointees
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Feb-24-21 10:18 AM
The president is elected to run the executive branch. Let him run it.
If he runs it poorly, there's a political process to handle that: elections. Or impeachment of cabinet officials if necessary.

When I see the senate pushing back on Haaland because she is "anti fossil fuel" or Devos because of all the terrible policies she pushed for, I wonder what the presidential election was for. This is what people voted for.
13425087, Damn
Posted by Lurkmode, Wed Feb-24-21 10:35 AM
So let Trump put My Pillow nut or Rudy in a Cabinet position and wait for impeachment to stop them before people get hurt ?

lol

13425089, no
Posted by mista k5, Wed Feb-24-21 10:39 AM
stop them AFTER they hurt a lot of people but not just any people. people that matter enough to republican senators. that is if they dont decide they learned their lesson.
13425093, Ahhh a wait and see vote out or impeachment
Posted by Lurkmode, Wed Feb-24-21 10:51 AM
Klan capitol mob should get an opportunity to perform poorly.
13425091, Cabinet officials serve at the pleasure of the president
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Feb-24-21 10:46 AM
What is cabinet secretary My Pillow Guy doing to hurt people? Whatever it is was sanctioned by the person elected president.

So the issue is not with the person leading the department. It's with the president
13425097, Nah they represent the country
Posted by Lurkmode, Wed Feb-24-21 11:02 AM
The issue is with both person leading and president.
13425143, you really aren’t good at this
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-24-21 02:20 PM
or maybe you really think Presidents are kings
13425151, What is king-like in what I'm describing?
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Wed Feb-24-21 03:31 PM
13425082, This ain't the mid-ages. President isn't King
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Feb-24-21 09:58 AM
There has to be some semblance of check & balance, or else we really do have zero balance of power within the branches of govt.

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13425083, Trump proved the exact opposite is true.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Wed Feb-24-21 10:02 AM
These fights are in no way dumb and the Trump-Republican Senate years showed how having no checks can become an absolute danger. Someone like Betsy Devos should never ever ever ever be allowed anyone near a cabinet position......more importantly Education.