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13406031, COVID CHAOS AT WHITE HOUSE: TRUMP IN QUARANTINE
Posted by handle, Thu Oct-01-20 10:24 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-quarantine-hope-hicks-covid_n_5f7698adc5b6dd94f1e84ba6

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says he and first lady Melania Trump are beginning a “quarantine process” as they await coronavirus test results after a top aide he spent substantial time with this week tested positive for COVID-19.
13406035, it’s a timeout for them lol...
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-01-20 10:31 PM
I don’t believe it.
13406036, Hope Hicks got it
Posted by handle, Thu Oct-01-20 10:34 PM
And she travels with them and no one on the Trump side of the room at the debate were wearing masks.

Hope Hicks, close aide to Donald Trump, tests positive for coronavirus": https://www.npr.org/2020/10/01/919344239/trump-adviser-hope-hicks-tests-positive-for-coronavirus
13406040, oh, I know...
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-01-20 10:40 PM
I think it’s more strategic.
13406151, LOL yea. The minute I got the alert on my phone ...
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 09:20 AM
... I said "ugh he's lying" lol.

Sad that this is what we have to do with this asshole.
13406179, changing the narrative again...
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Oct-02-20 10:50 AM
totally not buying he really has it.

his taxes
the debate
then the wife’s recording

it’s a good play to silence it all...






13406181, Exactly. Controlling the news cycle. Only thing he's good at.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 10:54 AM
13406039, if he is in quarantine then he has it.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-01-20 10:37 PM
they aint awaiting their results like they claim.

dude aint all of a sudden abiding by covid protocol and sitting down unless he already got his results back.

this isnt the 1st time that someone he was in close contact with has gotten it. and he didnt quarantine the multiple times before.
13406045, he was sweating so hard at the debate.
Posted by Triptych, Thu Oct-01-20 11:10 PM
could easily have had it then.
13406055, really good point.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:17 AM
13406132, let me get those lotto numbers
Posted by mista k5, Fri Oct-02-20 08:48 AM
13406043, *Prayer hands emoji*
Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Oct-01-20 10:57 PM
13406046, I pray that nigga dies
Posted by tourgasm, Fri Oct-02-20 12:03 AM
13406053, We aren't that lucky.....
Posted by blueeclipse, Fri Oct-02-20 12:15 AM
Instead fuckin Kobe, RBG, and Chadwick are gone.
13406152, The world would be so much better off.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 09:21 AM
I know we'd all like to see him lose the election, get indicted for a bunch of things, go to jail, but that would just be super messy and further divide everyone.

Him/them dying would just make things so much easier.
13406047, Cheeto annouced he and Melania tested Postive
Posted by JiggysMyDayJob, Fri Oct-02-20 12:04 AM
13406049, PRAYER HANDS EMOJI
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 12:07 AM
13406051, BRUH ! Thoughts and Prayers
Posted by JiggysMyDayJob, Fri Oct-02-20 12:11 AM
Let this be the 2020 turnaround we need. Lakers chip, Dodgers Chip, and a Cheeto death would be the best kind of Karama for me right now.
13406081, GOD BE HELPING!
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Oct-02-20 03:19 AM
13406435, ^^^underrated reply (gd is dead)
Posted by rdhull, Fri Oct-02-20 08:20 PM
>
13406048, Cheeto just tweeted he has it.
Posted by PROMO, Fri Oct-02-20 12:07 AM
Him and Melania.
13406050, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by liveguy, Fri Oct-02-20 12:10 AM
13406082, SAD!
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Oct-02-20 03:30 AM
13406052, Now it's time to worry about Joe
Posted by JiggysMyDayJob, Fri Oct-02-20 12:12 AM
He was just near that asshole for 90 minutes plus during the debate.
13406054, biden campaign just blocked a pool reporter from traveling with them
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:16 AM
who was just on the trail with trump.

thats what a competent campaign looks like.
13406059, Nice
Posted by JiggysMyDayJob, Fri Oct-02-20 12:26 AM
I'm wondering if his camp will do a quarantine until they all get tested.
13406056, this legit is like 1 of the worst closing stretches to a prez campaign
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:23 AM
in modern history.

on top of all the other stuff...can you imagine talking shit about biden wearing a mask, saying theres nothing wrong with you holding these maskless rallies, saying we are rounding the corner on coronavirus and itll be gone soon...and then you catch the shit? lol.

please let this dude get really sick and have to stop campaigning for a while.

(and please dont let the biden campaign do that moral purity shit that dems do and stop campaigning too because 'its the right thing to do')
13406060, Biden better not stop campaigning. He took precautions so he should
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 12:30 AM
Keep on campaigning but continue to do so responsibly and spin this on why they are campaigning like they have been to avoid this very thing from happening.
13406057, He and his cult are going to be even worse after this
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 12:25 AM
Not one of them piece of shit crackers is dying unfortunately

13406061, I suppose all those trump flags will be at lowered to half staff tomorrow
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 12:32 AM
13406073, Both boris johnson and jair bolsonaro survived their infections
Posted by shygurl, Fri Oct-02-20 01:35 AM
I guess national leader assholes get special care. Can't even get my hopes up.
13406110, Yeah, that's exactly what national leaders get
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 07:58 AM
Being national leaders and all. Can't have them just up and dying all willy nilly

It's just unfortunate those three are the most deserving people to die from a virus they've let run rampant through their countries.

13406113, Neither of those two were over 65, BJ is only 56, DT is 74
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 08:02 AM
13406062, why does this shit feel like a national holiday or something?
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:35 AM
like 3 of my group chats are lit af right at 1:30 am.

13406063, I thought that Padres win was going to be the highlight of my night
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 12:36 AM
13406064, jesus christ i hate these fucking morally indignant liberal pussies
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:42 AM
that think theyre earning points by crying about other liberals not taking the high road.

i post this every time some shit like this happens.

'i dont care what side of the aisle you are on...we should all wish the president a safe and speedy recovery and blah blah blah'

'my God it sickens me to see people from my own party celebrating someone from another party being infected with a virus that has killed so many americans'

man stfu bitch. go take that shit to pbs newshour.

this is when i gotta shout out petty ass progressives cuz they know exactly wtf time it is and have no remorse dancing on repub graves.

13406066, Man fuck that!!!
Posted by blueeclipse, Fri Oct-02-20 12:51 AM
This is the time to GO IN.

They danced on RBG's fucking grave.

Trump clowned Biden a few fucking days ago about wearing a mask.

They have no given a single solitary fuck about American lives. Even their own voters. In fact they've cared EVEN LESS about those people and have exposed them willingly.

I agree 1000%

Fuck em.

If this were Biden they'd be going THE FUCK IN. They'd be hoping he died and calling him a weak liberal all the way to his deathbed.
13406068, I agree, fuck all that. No sympathy for the devil and his demons
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 12:53 AM
Because they won’t show us none.

I could possibly see taking the high road if trump took this serious but he hasn’t so you reap what you sow.
13406077, nothing to celebrate yet.
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 03:01 AM
he could very well be fine and Biden gets sick tomorrow.

call it superstition, karma, whatever. i'm not gonna go out and lecture anyone or virtue signal on some "we must go high" but I'm not dancing on that fucker's grave until they start digging.
13406108, No way Biden suspends his campaign...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Oct-02-20 07:53 AM
...it's full steam ahead!!!! ..Even if Trump is on a ventilator, keep running those ads, keep hammering the message, stomp on his dying corpse till he's voted the fuck out.


13406109, It is what it is! I keep saying this to people about him.
Posted by walihorse, Fri Oct-02-20 07:57 AM
Its infuriating that pointing out the consequences to his actions is somehow bad.

I don't want him to die, because I think it'll turn him into some kind of right wing martyr, but the irony is too on the nose.
13406199, haha
Posted by T Reynolds, Fri Oct-02-20 11:27 AM
13406277, That's bad juju
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Fri Oct-02-20 01:12 PM
Why would you want to see this virus ravage a 74 year old man. How would that make you feel about your elders getting it.. cause it will happen.
13406286, There'a grand canyon gap between elders catching it while trying to
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 01:21 PM
escape it and the man that's facilitated them catching it, who also hasn't protected himself or others catching it.

It didn't happen by happenstance to him.

He literally created the conditions for his own circumstances
13406065, Exit strategy?
Posted by jimaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 12:45 AM
>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-quarantine-hope-hicks-covid_n_5f7698adc5b6dd94f1e84ba6
>
>WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says he and first
>lady Melania Trump are beginning a “quarantine process” as
>they await coronavirus test results after a top aide he spent
>substantial time with this week tested positive for COVID-19.

Pivot to Pence? Hitting pause on the bad press? I want to feel bad for being skeptical but shiiiiiiid. These foot on the ropes with a handful of tights ass folks will stop at nothing.

Add this to the list of things that should be the nail in the coffin for this whole era but somehow won’t be.

13406067, Yeah why play by the rules now??
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:53 AM

Let’s say he’s asymptomatic but positive...why would
he say it and quarantine??

Okay it got out that Hope tested positive so they had
to say “we’re getting tested”

But, assuming he isn’t too sick at this point to
travel etc, why in the world would he play nice now?

He’s either obviously sick or they think this benefits
them somehow.

Maybe all that “basement Biden” was just more
projection, and GOP have been begging him to hide.

Either way, they completely changed the news cycle,
and he doesn’t have to debate.

Plus a possible sympathy bump?

I’m sorry but I don’t think this is the win it looks like.
13406070, Yup.Also,I'm definitely on high alert until Biden is confirmed negative.
Posted by kfine, Fri Oct-02-20 01:05 AM
Seeing quite a few scientists on twitter point out Biden's heightened risk of contracting on debate night given that the virus is airborne, it was an indoor/enclosed space, they were only standing several feet apart, and there was prolonged yelling between the two for almost 2h w/ no masks.

Plus a few ppl doing the math with respect to what a positive test *tonight* indicates, since its not like one is exposed and tests positive immediately - there's a lag. It's very likely 45 was contagious on debate night.

13406071, I don’t see the sympathy bump
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 01:23 AM
It isn’t like he has been taking this serious. He has downplayed it since the beginning and even more so lately. If anything I think this hurts him because who wants to vote for someone who is sick and may die. Who wants to vote for someone who said this isn’t serious but then gets it?

I also don’t see how this gets him out of the debate. Perhaps it postpones the next debate and they may cancel the third debate but I can’t see them canceling all the debates.
13406075, This is where I am with it.
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 01:52 AM

>It isn’t like he has been taking this serious. He has downplayed it
>since the beginning and even more so lately. If anything I think this
>hurts him because who wants to vote for someone who is sick and may
>die. Who wants to vote for someone who said this isn’t serious but
>then gets it?

Yeah, people weren't sympathetic to Boris Johnson or Bolsonaro when they caught it. It was more AYDMF. Sure, his base will be sympathetic, but I don't really see this swinging the undecided voter in his father.

As for the debates, it definitely takes the town hall off the calendar. I think it's more likely that the cancel that one, which would suck, because Drumf does awful in those settings and Biden is great. Maybe they'd try for a third one, where he could play him interupting as "strength."
13406076, they both did get bumps/rebounds off of it
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Oct-02-20 02:29 AM
I am not going to speculate about what it would/will do for him, justl ike we've talked about protests, etc etc, people keep saying stuff will go his way and the polls suggest it isn't.


but in brazil and the uk it did work in those leaders favor overall


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406135, apparently the surge in support happened before bojo got the virus.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 08:51 AM
and it reversed weeks later (he was in the hospital for a few weeks).

https://twitter.com/nycjayjay/status/1312017225533054985
13406243, that's true, his later surge in support was cuz they gave money away
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Oct-02-20 12:17 PM
and he pretended it was his idea



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406100, Boris Johnson 56, Bolsnaro is 65 That other man is 74 and in shit health.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 07:09 AM
I think people haven’t been too keyed in that a million people have already died off this globally.

I don’t understand why anyone feels immune to this, I sure as fuck don’t, and I’m in solid health ... so I don’t get why people want to ascribe a recovery to him.
13406130, If you want to be the one person that gets this
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 08:44 AM
It's him. You think they are just gonna up and let the President of the United States die of a disease? In the year of our Lort 2020?

He'll get the best possible treatment. Should he be at significant risk based on his age, health? Absolutely. God knows, I will HAPPILY be wrong about this.

But I'm pin my hopes on this and I'm going to consider how they will use and manipulate this situation for their benefit and everyone else's suffering because that is who they are and that is what they do.

People talking about "Maybe he will learn his lesson and this will be a turning point" though? Fuck out of here with that shit.

They will come out of this talking about "See, I told you it's not bad!" "It's the best disease, a beautiful disease"
13406133, There have been 8 presidents that have died in office
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 08:49 AM
He is a human, humans die.

Thinking that he's going to get miracle treatment for a novel disease and just magically recover because of that ignores what a novel disease is or does.

It's functionally no different than a young person saying they won't get so sick because they work out often.

The disease is the disease.
13406142, Bro, 4 were killed by the Bullet Virus. The last one to die natty
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 08:58 AM
was in 1945 of a cerebral hemorrhage. Before that, Warren Harding died of heart failure in 1923.

Now Zachary Taylor DID die of an illness. In 1850.

Yes, people die every day, b.

I'm just saying don't get hopes up. This isn't like your average Fox News watching pee-paw. He's still the president of the United States he's getting a whole lot more than Gatorade and prayers.

If you right, I'm buying you ALL the drinks tho for speaking this shit into existence
13406147, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm being a realist about this virus
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 09:07 AM
Just as I've always been. I'm healthy and I'M not confident in surviving it.
13406153, No doubt
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 09:21 AM
I'm the exact same way.

13406074, Not buying the "This is a hoax" theory
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 01:36 AM

This isn't like faking an attempt on his life, and he would be able to play up his recovery for sympathy on some Bob Roberts shit. He got an extremely communicable disease because he didn't take the proper precautions and didn't take it seriously. Even if he survives, there's not much a way to spin sympathy out of that.

Besides, if this was a hoax, the smart play would be to emerge in two weeks and say, "I've seen the light. This showed me how serious this disease is. We're all in this together. I'm pledging billions towards research and preventions if I win." He'd probably win if he did that.

And then after the election he could just renege on his promise.
13406079, if it was a hoax then they wouldnt have tried to cover it up.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:06 AM
the story got out in front of them and they had to come clean.
13406094, I see it as if he doesn't get sick, he'll say «you see? Its nothing»
Posted by Bambino Grande, Fri Oct-02-20 06:12 AM

I had it, look at me, I'm the worlds healthiest president that ever lived in the world, in the history of the world. Its a scam, liberal kung flu virus

13406105, ^^^
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Fri Oct-02-20 07:42 AM
13406269, yeah i thought this too.
Posted by Triptych, Fri Oct-02-20 12:56 PM
13406380, Even if that wasn't out the window now, that's a pretty big leap
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 04:44 PM
I don't know that it would get him any votes or really accomplish anything. His synchophants in state government are already opening everything up. It's not something that drives people to the polls.
13406080, hope he contracted that Herm Cain strain
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Oct-02-20 03:10 AM
.
13406083, i missed that he tried to scapegoat the military and law enforcement
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:34 AM
for hope hicks testing positive.

https://twitter.com/ccadelago/status/1311849912280190976
13406084, If he beats it he'll try to turn it into some sort of W obviously
Posted by kwez, Fri Oct-02-20 04:37 AM
But this is beautiful all the same
13406085, Doubt he recovers by election day
Posted by bentagain, Fri Oct-02-20 04:51 AM
Remember when Boris Johnson got it

He was f’d up for a minute

Trumpster definitely had it at the debate

That room needs to be tested and quarantine

Prayers

























































for Joe and Jill.
13406099, you dont think they just pump him w antibodies now?
Posted by fontgangsta, Fri Oct-02-20 06:59 AM
treatments are a lot better than when BJ had it
that said, hes still gonna miss a lot of campaigning and hopefully the last 2 debates
13406103, How does this work for science deniers?
Posted by bentagain, Fri Oct-02-20 07:38 AM
Health care being a science

Now that science has told you you’re sick

...do you now turn to science for therapy...

...or continue denial and rely on ‘tiger blood’ to recover...

?

Yeah, I would suppose his ‘survival’ exponentially increases based on resources available to the POTUS

He has so many underlying conditions; obese, elderly and poor <— stolen, but my favorite comment I’ve seen

I’m still cool with this playing out; COVID, L... jail

Using the Boris example, when he becomes symptomatic, we have to instill a replacement?

Repugs are so f’n shady, they may use it as a chance to throw Trumpster in the bushes

I can’t think of any scenario where the chaos doesn’t escalate

...but yeah, he’ll probably survive...
13406183, you're giving Americans way too much credit. First, no jail for Trump
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 10:55 AM

ever. He will be (hopefully) an ex-President. America isn't putting a President in jail.

And for what, btw? The Tax stuff?

Meh. He'll pay some fines *maybe*

You gotta remember...Russia was actively trying to fuck with our election and Obama didn't say a peep because the elections had to look legit.

Norms, norms, and more norms.

"Greatest country on earth"

All that shit. That stuff isn't going away if Trump loses.




As far as science deniers...they'll just say "see, the virus isn't that bad!" and "our prayers worked!"

Like they always do.


13406205, When he is forcefully removed from office...he will not be released back
Posted by bentagain, Fri Oct-02-20 11:32 AM
into general population

Yes, tax evasion, bank fraud, money laundering

He’s guilty of everything Manafort was found guilty of

With a Joe W, there is no pardon card to play

The ‘tax stuff’ included an IRS lawsuit for $100M

Prison will be the safest place for him after the WH exit.

He is now and always has been a national security threat

Holding no office removes any need to continue the charade
13406293, again, you are giving America too much credit
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 01:28 PM
In no way am I claiming he isn't guilty.

Plenty of guilty people (read: powerful white men) who aren't in prison.

Add on top of it he will be a former President??


He isn't going to jail man.

The charade will continue because it is very important to America's existence.

He was a national security threat *as a candidate* and nothing happened.

This country is simply not going to put a former President in jail.

Literally nothing that has happened over the past 5 years (or however far back you want to go) points to "Trump is going to face justice"


Its fantasy land shit. Its "but he's a bad guy and bad guys lose" shit.


This country could have stopped this 5 years ago...but it would have required admitting the election process is flawed,etc.

In other words, the national security threat tax dodging fraudster could have been stopped...but the charade would have to be paused.

And it didn't happen.

FBI, CIA, Obama admin, GOP, whoever...did nothing.

Hell, FBI actually put the finger on the scale **for Trump**

"Former United States President sentenced to prison!!!"

It just isn't happening man.


America- at all levels- needs the fairy tale of free and fair elections, we are the good guys, etc to continue. The entire system is based on that.

Same reason nothing happened to W, Cheney, etc.

If he loses, he will say it was a fraud etc...but he'll still leave. And continue tweeting, holding rallies, etc.

Pay some fines. Maybe Trump Org gets shut down.

And America (including New York) will turn the page.




13406086, hope he catches it and suffers
Posted by Amritsar, Fri Oct-02-20 04:55 AM
yeah i said it
13406087, Can’t wait for the kajillion pieces on how this affects undecided voters
Posted by benny, Fri Oct-02-20 05:02 AM
13406089, Dominic West (Jimmy McNulty 'The Wire') gives not a fuck...
Posted by Pete Burns, Fri Oct-02-20 05:40 AM
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1311956717568167941?s=20

13406090, This is hilarious. I'm am worried as hell for Joe though.
Posted by walihorse, Fri Oct-02-20 05:40 AM
13406091, Yep, I’m mostly worried for Biden
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 05:46 AM
I could see them trying to give it to him on purpose, not saying I think that’s what happened but they are not above doing something like that.
13406092, Puh-Pause.... - HOV
Posted by FLUIDJ, Fri Oct-02-20 06:05 AM
13406093, the abbott rapid tests they use have up to a ~50% false negative rate.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 06:10 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/13/abbotts-rapid-coronavirus-test-misses-positive-cases-raising-questions-nyu-study-finds.html

this isnt just mere incompetence. theyre prolly using these outdated tests *because* they would likely give everyone a negative result even if they were positive.
13406144, I would hope
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Oct-02-20 09:03 AM
the White House doctors back up those tests with the more reliable 'old school' nasal swab tests. If I'm not mistaken, it still takes some time to get results from those and aren't instant like that more unreliable one that gives instant results.
13406095, Is this the plan to transition to Pence? Didn't he already catch it?
Posted by flipnile, Fri Oct-02-20 06:29 AM
Everything seems suspect. I thought Trump already had SAR-Cov-2 when he was taking hydroxychloroquine for it back in may: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reveals-taking-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus
13406102, I think he tested negative this morning
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 07:27 AM
13406097, I'd been interested to see how the "contact tracing" works for this
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 06:43 AM
13406166, I feel sorry for the staff tasked with this.
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Oct-02-20 10:17 AM
Going to have to do an exhaustive dig into how many folks Trump and Hicks and whoever gets a positive result could have spread COVID-19 to.
13406101, Trump and everyone around him are such terrible people
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 07:15 AM
https://twitter.com/mikedelmoro/status/1311974079864414209?s=21
13406129, this report too, from debate night, is maddening:
Posted by kfine, Fri Oct-02-20 08:41 AM

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-family-evidently-refusing-wear-012700203.html

President Trump's family appeared to flaunt local ordinances while attending the presidential debate on Tuesday, removing their face masks after taking their seats at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. Tyler Page, a reporter with Bloomberg News, tweeted that "according to the Cleveland Clinic, it's a requirement that all guests wear masks" and that "a Cleveland Clinic doctor with masks … walked up to a number of unmasked members of the audience on Trump's side of the room and asked them to put on masks. She told me they refused to take one and wear them."

"Everyone" on former Vice President Joe Biden's side of the room was reportedly following with the guidance.

There were tight health requirements for attendees of the debate, including that audience members must have an invitation to the event, wear a face mask, and have a wristband proving they tested negative for COVID-19. Only between 80 and 100 people were in attendance, with seats spaced safe distances apart.

Curiously, at the time of writing, one notable member of Trump's entourage did appear to have a mask on: Melania Trump.

First Lady Melania Trump arrives wearing a mask, unlike the rest of the Trump ladies. As @KateBennett_DC always says, nothing is an accident when it comes to the First Lady. pic.twitter.com/o448fGbMEU
13406158, Someone was just telling me about this. Fucking pieces of shit.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 09:39 AM
13406104, They're going to use his "quick recovery" as a prop now...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Oct-02-20 07:41 AM
...watch, the guy never actually had it and this is made up to gain some kind sympathy or image boost ...I mean at this point would you put this past them to lie???


I really hope he has it though... I hope he feels the full force of the virus.. him and his piece of shit family.






13406114, there is zero boost
Posted by fontgangsta, Fri Oct-02-20 08:04 AM
>this is made up to gain some kind sympathy or image boost

in contracting the thing that you've been saying for months that you have basically vanquished, while simultaneously ridiculing all the preventative measures

i mean, i feel you - if you put anything past this admin you're doing yourself a disservice, so its not a dumb question to ask by any means.
but nah.
13406118, Bo Erickson CBS reporting Biden's being tested this morning
Posted by kfine, Fri Oct-02-20 08:11 AM


https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1312004863006584834


Hopefully the first of a few, to guard against false negative(s).

Maybe he should be getting tested daily like the incumbent does? (if he's not already). Seems like a prudent measure to take giveb how hard-hit the US is and the stakes of this election.
13406121, Please please please let this man not get it
Posted by walihorse, Fri Oct-02-20 08:20 AM
13406138, yeah he and kamala get tested daily.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 08:53 AM
kamala tested negative last night.
13406122, hopefully Ivanka or Don Jr has it and croaks from it
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Oct-02-20 08:21 AM
he dgaf about the rest of his fam but one of those 2 kicking it is no less than what he deserves for not ever taking this seriously.
13406126, The Trump admin didn't inform the Biden campaign
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 08:34 AM
And they knew Hicks was symptomatic and he STILL went and did an event.

Think about that.


I refuse to even feign sympathy. Too bad 2020 isn't the kind of year where people like Trump and his enablers die unfortunately.
13406162, ^^This is crazy. It's like he's a magician
Posted by handle, Fri Oct-02-20 09:52 AM
He keeps lowering my opinion of him, and like a magician I can't figure out how he manages it.
13406127, Apparently his symptoms are mild
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 08:40 AM
Very good chance they are lying, of course.
13406175, fwiw they said bojo in the uk had mild symptoms too.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 10:38 AM
then they said he was visiting the hospital as a precautionary measure.

then he was on ventilator in the icu.
13406128, rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel tested positive on wednesday.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 08:41 AM
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1312021288894988289
——-
BREAKING - Ronna McDaniel, the RNC chairwoman, tested positive for the coronavirus on Wednesday, multiple sources say. She has mild symptoms. She was last with POTUS last Friday and has been in Michigan since then.
——-

so thats at least TWO people that they knew had it a day before.

it also opens the door for the possibility of the virus being transmitted last friday. think of all the people who could have been possibly infected in that time period.
13406131, damballah and baron samedi heard my prayers
Posted by lsymone, Fri Oct-02-20 08:45 AM
13406134, The largest driver of misinfor about COVID is now also a super spreader
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 08:50 AM
It's like he's bankrolled by Big Corona

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-misinformation.html
13406137, all just to say what if Biden got it and you have a female prez etc
Posted by rdhull, Fri Oct-02-20 08:53 AM
Ploy bs
13406155, We have to elect him FIRST, if it happens before then the Bernie bros...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 09:36 AM
will come out of the woodwork
13406165, so...is there ANY political fallout from this ?
Posted by fontgangsta, Fri Oct-02-20 09:59 AM
do any of his supporters care that he's now sick with the thing he called a "hoax" ?

do any of his supporters ask how he can protect the country if he cant even protect his own house and family?

do any of his supporters feel like this diagnosis makes him "weak" after all his projection of strength?

or is this just another thing that further entrenches them?
because the reality is that none of those 3 thoughts need to happen en masse to hurt him, and hurt him badly - a few peeling off here and there makes his already tough electoral possibilities even more remote
13406173, im under the assumption that things are worse
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 10:35 AM
than the trump team has admitted to.

like they knew he had it several days before (during the debates at least) and they kept it under wraps until they were forced to reveal it when the hope hicks story broke.

ronna mcdaniel was just chilling at her house since last saturday (when she last had contact with the prez) in the home stretch of an election and just conveniently tested positive around the same time hope hicks did?
13406187, this was part of my point up above
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 10:59 AM

My initial reaction was he didn't actually have it, but either way something isn't adding up.

The Hope shit got out...so they had to get tested and comment on the test...why not say "nope, my good genes won I'm negative" ???

He must be obviously sick.


He isn't just going to suddenly play by the rules. Either they think this benefits him or his hand has been completely forced.


13406189, who broke the story about her having it?
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Oct-02-20 11:00 AM
how he mocked Biden during the debate about wearing mask lol
I don’t think he knew...




13406190, This shit is like a Fable
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-02-20 11:07 AM
Gonna be used for centuries to teach elementary school kids to not be assholes.
13406204, lmao fact. The fable of the orange turd
Posted by Bambino Grande, Fri Oct-02-20 11:31 AM

RE: This shit is like a Fable
Gonna be used for centuries to teach elementary school kids to not be assholes.
13406176, im fucking wet. What a treat to wake up to.
Posted by Brotha Sun, Fri Oct-02-20 10:43 AM
i hope he spoke to his team with extra spit in his "S" and "P"s


200,000 people, man. unforgivable.
13406177, senator mike lee tests positive.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 10:47 AM
he was at the white house last saturday (1 day after ronna mcdaniel was last around the president).

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312057225440038913
13406185, Met with Barrett on Tuesday
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 10:57 AM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1312058513984614401?s=20
13406184, Hopefully Bitch McConnell has it too
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-02-20 10:55 AM
13406188, what about the SC nominee, too? Does she quarantine?
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 11:00 AM
13406191, teflon joe has tested negative.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 11:17 AM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1312065005164982273
-----
Inbox: Statement by Dr. Kevin O’Connor. "Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden underwent PCR testing for COVID-19 today and COVID-19 was not detected. I am reporting this out in my capacity as both Vice President Biden and Dr. Biden's primary care physician."
-----
13406192, BUILT DIFFERENT
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Oct-02-20 11:19 AM
13406196, "Good genes"
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 11:22 AM
"Ever heard of the racehorse theory ?"
13406207, Jah bless!
Posted by Bambino Grande, Fri Oct-02-20 11:32 AM
13406283, Nice!
Posted by walihorse, Fri Oct-02-20 01:18 PM
I hope he gets tested everyday.
13406198, Is Trump a super spreader?
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Oct-02-20 11:24 AM
It's only fitting if he is
13406202, Look at this picture
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 11:29 AM
https://twitter.com/callakessler/status/1312048311331946498?s=20

granted its from 2018 but yeah, he nasty.

He's both the leading spreader of COVID misinformation and about to be a super duper spreader.

He's going for the EGOT for assholes.

13406203, lot of negativity in this post I hope everybody recovers and nobody dies
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 11:31 AM
13406206, Why? The existence of Donald Trump has been emperically negative for
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 11:32 AM
decades.
13406208, Really?!
Posted by blueeclipse, Fri Oct-02-20 11:32 AM
Sorry people are not on the Obama shit. We're tired bro. Fuck these people.
13406210, ...says the guy trolling ‘Bernie Bros’ in the same post...
Posted by bentagain, Fri Oct-02-20 11:36 AM
You don’t know how this virus has affected anyone on this board to validate responses wishing for anything other than a recovery

Do better.
13406212, Here's your attention
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 11:42 AM
you wanted it. you got it. but that's all you get.

13406232, nah I'm just big on karma and I think wishing death on anybody is harsh...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 12:03 PM
I can understand not giving af if they die but to flat out say you hope someone dies I just feel some kind of way about that but this is the internet and people say a lot of things here that they wouldn't say out loud IRL
13406238, Karma? The force generated by a person's actions?
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 12:15 PM
Which in theory is exactly what he's experiencing right now.
He's condemned hundreds of thousands to die and millions to experience what he's experiencing right now.

This is that which you speak of.

13406240, I've said it out loud to a lot of people, and would again.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 12:16 PM
Us saying we wish he were dead *is* the karma.


>I can understand not giving af if they die but to flat out
>say you hope someone dies I just feel some kind of way about
>that but this is the internet and people say a lot of things
>here that they wouldn't say out loud IRL
13406317, this is a good point
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 02:16 PM
>Us saying we wish he were dead *is* the karma.



13406246, Stadiums across the US cheered Bin Laden's death on live TV...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Oct-02-20 12:19 PM
...and who remember's Hillary on Qaddafi's death: "We came, we saw, he died (laughing)"


I think we can all feel ok with wishing the worst on this current piece of shit.. I've been in a great mood all day, and it's not just because it's friday.

I do get what your saying though, and can respect that if it works for you.









13406304, did u say this about the other sides comments/actions?.
Posted by rdhull, Fri Oct-02-20 01:48 PM



>I can understand not giving af if they die but to flat out
>say you hope someone dies I just feel some kind of way about
>that but this is the internet and people say a lot of things
>here that they wouldn't say out loud IRL
13406348, So kids deserve to be raped, and Trump deserves success
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Oct-02-20 03:50 PM
Because that's what being "big on karma" means.

It means that everything that happens to someone, good or bad, is earned.

So, people who are starving, are starving because that's what they deserve.

Die in a house fire? That's Karma at work. Maimed in a car crash by a drunk driver? Karma. Your child is kidnapped, raped, murdered? All that is Karma.

Karma also means that The Donald deserves his success. Karma means he deserves this presidency. It means Jeffrey Epstein deserved all of his success. And not simply for capitalist reasons, but Karmic reasons.

So, every victim of Manson, Gacy, Dahmer, GSK? Karma. In fact.... If Karma is a thing, those murderers were both agents and victims of that same cosmic balancing act.

The good news is, Karma isn't a thing. It's just another magical belief for which no good evidence exists, but, it sounds deep. It's nothing but a grandiose, mythological version of the carrot and the stick.

Saying "I hope this piece of shit dies" doesn't magically cause some bad thing to happen to you, outside of a visit from the secret service, depending in where you say it, how you say it, etc- but not because of some mystical force.

That would happen because cause & effect is a thing.

And people hoping he buys the farm on this one?

That's cause & effect too.
13406359, everyone's position is understandable, and I'm not a anti-death penalty...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 04:23 PM
person and if someone did something heinous to a loved I probably would wish death on them and I did have an extended family member pass from covid.

People are entitled to feel how they feel.
13406696, hope he drowns on the fluid in his lungs
Posted by GNT1986, Mon Oct-05-20 12:46 PM
or bare minimum, suffer at least as much as i have.
13406222, FOH. The world will unquestionably be a better place with him and his family ..
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 11:49 AM
.. in shallow graves.
13406239, fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Posted by Hitokiri, Fri Oct-02-20 12:15 PM
I hope this muhfucker dies.
He has absolutely no empathy for you and yours. His presidency has resulted in literally tens of thousands of deaths that would not have happened if he weren't the piece of shit he is. He don't give a fuck about anyone who ain't actively doing something to benefit him.
He let them die.
Fuck him.
The world would be a better place without him taking up oxygen.
Miss me with that bullshit you talking.
13406287, How many bombs did Obama drop on little kids?
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Fri Oct-02-20 01:22 PM
Apply the same energy or just relax bro
13406302, 1. Fuck Obama
Posted by Hitokiri, Fri Oct-02-20 01:44 PM
I don't know who you think I am.
13406278, i might agree with you if i didn't know it would only make them worse
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 01:13 PM
their incompetence and callousness has cost tens of thousands of lives.

its literally better for humanity if some of these people check out
13406282, Yup. They're not passively bad, they are actively evil.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 01:18 PM
13406352, Proud boys, stand back, and stand by!
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Oct-02-20 04:03 PM
He's actively urging voter suppression.

He's actively gaslighting the entire nation to believe that, if he loses, it will only be because of cheating.

He's actively stoking the fires of a civil war.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/white-supremacist-daily-stormer-founder-heard-trumps-stand-by-comment-as-chilling-command-get-ready-for-war/

"Andrew Anglin, founder of the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, interpreted President Donald Trump’s “Stand back and stand by” remark as an unambiguous call to arms, writing on the site that the command “gave me shivers.”

This is the person you hope recovers.

This is just what's happened this week.

That's not touching his SC pick, who wants to roll back Roe v Wade.

That's not touching his desire to defund schools who use 1916 Project curriculum.

That's not touching his desire to literally rewrite history to be more favorable to white men.

That's not touching the whole Q cult and the active harm caused by it.

That's not touching the way he downplayed a virus he knew would ravage us, resulting in over 200,000 deaths, and lord knows how many serious, long term health issues as a result, all while undermining the top health experts at every turn, all while trying to roll back the affordable care act (see: aforementioned SC pick).

That's not touching the shutdown.

That's not touching, well, too many things to count. And what has already been mentioned is a staggering amount- but even that's just a fraction of what we've seen from him in the past 8 months.

He's objectively evil, and objectively, actively causing significant harm, all across the country, even to his own people, all to serve his own ego. That's not hyperbole, either. All of this is ego stroking for him. That, and, possibly, staving off financial disaster for himself.

So, with due respect, those aren't even real pearls you're clutching.
13406209, Mmmm @ the NYT front page
Posted by Bambino Grande, Fri Oct-02-20 11:35 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/

TRUMP SHOWS MILD SYMPTOMS AS BIDEN TESTS NEGATIVE


put that on a banner

And LMAO at the slideshow underneath «Busy week: Trump campaigning with donors, staff members and supporters»... sans mask <3
13406211, notre dame president who attended acb event at wh tests positive.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 11:41 AM
https://twitter.com/C_Wolbrecht/status/1312068198355922944
-----
.@NotreDame announces that President John Jenkins has tested positive for COVID. Jenkins was criticized for not wearing a mask when attending the ACB announcement in the rose garden last week.
-----
13406215, Now who hates Catholics?
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 11:45 AM
13406216, Superspreader in the midst
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 11:45 AM
13406227, Notre Dame President: "I regret my error of judgment
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 11:55 AM
in not wearing a mask during the ceremony but it's just so hard to juggle the President's balls in your mouth with a mask on"

Lie down with crackers wake up with COVID

13406234, They threw a party against a dying woman's wish and WELP. Let me find out Ginsburg put a root on someone.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 12:08 PM
They threw a party against a dying woman's wish and WELP. Let me find out Ginsburg put a root on someone.
13406236, LOL
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 12:13 PM
13406225, iono fam this dude might be sick sick.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 11:51 AM
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1312066563013476353
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1312068089186484224
-----
White House told Cuomo's office that POTUS would be on this 12:15 call, per people briefed. But it's Pence, not POTUS, who is on right now.

Another source says an email went out to all governors’ offices four hours ago inviting them a call w POTUS. Here is email.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjVm-PyXgAI4P_w?format=jpg&name=large
-----
13406229, To MEAT's point above
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 11:57 AM
The mild symptoms they've been claiming mean fuck all because it's very possible he won't even start getting sick sick several days

I'm stayin' and prayin' but trying to not get my hopes up.
13406235, trump isnt tweeting either.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:10 PM
thats prolly more suspicious than him not being on the call lol.
13406242, The call was for...wait for it... Covid19 support to vulnerable seniors
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Oct-02-20 12:17 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/5b73bb96ba4513ae2a18f772f6831eb4/tenor.gif

https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1312000780971520003?s=19
13406255, nigga need to call himself.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:34 PM
13406265, Hahahaha lol that cracked me up.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 12:44 PM
13406241, acb had covid this summer but recovered.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 12:16 PM
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1312077786744532992
-----
Supreme Court nominee diagnosed with coronavirus this summer but has since recovered...

https://t.co/mjbEFtkftt
-----

13406245, My productivity is shot.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 12:18 PM
13406247, LMAO.. Summer was like 10 days ago...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Oct-02-20 12:21 PM
...imagine if she gave it to him???


13406249, OH MAN
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 12:23 PM
13406275, Summer is still here in San Diego, it’s 93 outside my office
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 01:09 PM
13406284, I'm saying. Up here in the Bay, it's going to be 90 later today
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 01:19 PM
And yet I can barely see the sun due to all the damn smoke.
13406248, ""TRUMP: It is the plague." April 13th"
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 12:22 PM
TRUMP: This thing is a killer if it gets you. If you're the wrong person, you don't have a chance.
WOODWARD: Yes, yes, exactly.
TRUMP: So this rips you apart.
WOODWARD: This is a scourge. And--
TRUMP: It is the plague.


https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13403556&mesg_id=13403556&listing_type=search

13406271, Feels like the Woodward quotes were months ago. This news
Posted by soulfunk, Fri Oct-02-20 01:04 PM
cycle is INSANE.
13406273, Seriously. Total and complete daily chaos for 4 years running.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 01:07 PM
13406266, House members who were him just doing their thing, acting like nothing
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 12:47 PM
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1312072362347634694?s=21

And Senator Mike Lee has it, he was with Trump and then a bunch of other senators.
13406288, what happens with the Supreme Court pick now?
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Oct-02-20 01:24 PM
13406289, Unknowable considering the hearing isn't until 10 days
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 01:25 PM
A whole world can change in 10 days.
13406323, LOL yep.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 02:33 PM
Could change 10x in 10 days.
13406328, Well, we know the two possibilities.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Oct-02-20 02:46 PM
Either enough Senate members and/or ACB test positive that it can't happen, in which case they'll ram it through during the lame duck period.

Or they'll have the numbers and they'll do it as scheduled.

Either way, she'll be on the Supreme Court before 2021.
13406332, This still assumes a world in which these reps aren't dying
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 02:56 PM
Or incapacitated. President included.
If viral load is truly the deciding factor in living or dying depending on how long people sat in the most enclosed spaces which the most infectious people we could be looking at something truly bad here.

Business doesn't go on as usual when heads of states die.
13406579, I just don't think nearly enough of those Senators will die.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Oct-04-20 02:21 PM
Right now, we have, what, three or four sick? None of them gravely so, for the time being?

For me to be confident this wouldn't happen, we'd need more of them incapacitated and to *stay* incapacitated til January. I think that's on the, like, .1% end of the spectrum of possibilities.
13406296, If he dies, they'll ram it through on some "honoring his memory" shit
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 01:30 PM
Certainly after the election if not before.

Otherwise, I can see McConnell trying to start up the process next week because everyone will be so focused an Drumf's health rather than the Senate Confirmation. Don't know if it will work though.
13406291, chickens came home to roost eh? go figure.. lol... smdh.
Posted by PG, Fri Oct-02-20 01:27 PM
13406326, nothing to see here:
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 02:43 PM
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1312090353319784448
-----
In remarks to reporters, @PressSec says she prefers not to speak in detail about the medical condition of @POTUS.
-----
13406329, i think it moved (c) George Costanza
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 02:48 PM
13406330, LOL
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 02:50 PM
13406339, I'm crying...this wasn't a shift, I've shifted
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:24 PM

this was a move
13406333, trump team showed up to debate too late to get tested.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:10 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewKirell/status/1312121190597586944
-----
Chris Wallace just said on Fox that Trump arrived too late in Cleveland to have been tested by the clinic and that there was an "honor system" for the candidates to have arrived after already testing negative.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjWXEl7WoAAEVJh?format=png&name=large
-----

what did i say? its always worse than whatever they admit to.

we are gonna find out that they intentionally arrived late to avoid the testing from a neutral 3rd party because they already knew trump was positive.

meanwhile they were accusing biden of taking peds and wearing an earpiece.
13406334, Much respect
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Oct-02-20 03:14 PM
to Chris Wallace for divulging that info. He easily could have sat on that information.

I truly feel sorry for the persons that'll have to contact trace how many folks Trump could have sickened. They will truly have earned their paycheck for sure.
13406336, WH DR: DT received experimental antibody cocktail, remains 'fatigued' after COVID-19 diagnosis.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 03:21 PM
That man SICK sick

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1312125210569572352

WASHINGTON (AP) — White House doctor: Trump received experimental antibody cocktail, remains 'fatigued' after COVID-19 diagnosis.
13406340, nothing says all is fine like an experimental antibody cocktail
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:26 PM

just another day
13406342, The President is being experimented on.
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Oct-02-20 03:27 PM
Wonder if that experimental cocktail has been used in recent months to treat others that had COVID-19.

What assurance do the doctors have that cocktail will work?
13406345, They don't. Link
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 03:35 PM
https://twitter.com/matthewherper/status/1311048089348833280/photo/1

Did a search for the drug and manufactured up until yesterday before the timeline gets flooded with news.
13406369, i did not read the "af" in the subject line as after lol
Posted by mista k5, Fri Oct-02-20 04:32 PM
13406338, .
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:22 PM
.
13406341, ctrl+f "Hydroxychloroquine" = 0 results
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 03:26 PM
13406344, yup. should be the nail in the coffin for that.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 03:34 PM
13406343, Using a treatment on high viral loads
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/sean_os1/status/1311450347513274369?s=20

13406347, Regeneron was on TV this morning. He's now on it.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 03:49 PM
https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1312130162595512320

13406355, The worst case scenario here is that he has a mild case
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Oct-02-20 04:13 PM
And not because I want to see bad things happen to him, or some shit.

But because of the message it would send.

He has a mild case, recovers with no real issues, it lends credence to the whole "hoax" bit. I fully expect significantly more people to abandon guidelines if that happens. I think that there are plenty more people to pull onto that boat.

I also don't think many, if any at all, of the deniers, antimask, Q crowd, etc, would be suddenly come to their senses. They've already got built in defenses against manifested reality.

If he has a bad case, or even dies, they'll just say he got infected by the deep state pedophile cabal or some shit.

13406356, aw shit here we go. trump to walter reed hospital.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 04:15 PM
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1312138796721348608
-----
BREAKING: WH pool reports the President Trump is going to Walter Reed Medical Center shortly.
-----

13406357, this is literally what the uk gov said about bojo
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 04:20 PM
before his condition was escalated to the icu.

https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/1312139834912247808
-----
New - A Trump administration official tells reporters:

Pres. Trump is going to Walter Reed hospital tonight "as a precautionary measure after consulting with physicians," and he will work out of the presidential offices there over the "next few days."
-----

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1312140095537913857
-----
Precautionary measure is almost exactly how Boris Johnson's hospitalization was initially described:

https://t.co/ZPSgdHVW7m
-----


btw hes being *flown* there. so not even a typical motorcade is urgent enough.
13406358, that's where they keep the good bleach
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 04:22 PM
13406361, lol
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Oct-02-20 04:24 PM
13406363, Lololol
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Oct-02-20 04:25 PM
.
13406406, The best bleach.
Posted by squeeg, Fri Oct-02-20 06:09 PM
Tremendous bleach.
13406440, bruh
Posted by SeV, Fri Oct-02-20 08:57 PM

____________

DALLAS LAKERICKS LETS GO!!
13406362, wow
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 04:25 PM
13406366, stop giving me hope
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 04:29 PM
stop it
13406370, Christie said he worked closely with Chump and hope all last weekend...
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Oct-02-20 04:32 PM
through Tuesday.
13406372, wow, here i was wasting my day watching fargo
Posted by mista k5, Fri Oct-02-20 04:34 PM
13406364, OVER UNDER - he's ghost in 48 hours
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Fri Oct-02-20 04:28 PM
...Pence will be president by the morning. Trump gone by Sunday night.



13406365, i think he makes it through but hes down for a few weeks.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 04:29 PM
13406374, that feels like the most likely circumstance
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Oct-02-20 04:37 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406368, we arent even talking about the national security implications of this.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 04:30 PM
who is running the country right now?
13406375, Same people running it when he's not incapacitated
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Oct-02-20 04:39 PM
Unless you're asking who's gonna be running his Twitter. I don't know that answer
13406387, Trump as long as he's conscious.
Posted by Triptych, Fri Oct-02-20 05:01 PM
Pence if he has to go under for extended periods.

What's interesting is if he's put under and doesn't have a chance to sign a document to transfer power.

In that case, I believe the cabinet and VP can REMOVE him from power until he has recovered.
13406456, Putin.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 09:42 PM
Business as usual.
13406371, There's some Russians wondering about their $400 Million right now
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 04:33 PM
13406377, He's about to go full Kenneth Ley on their asses.
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 04:41 PM
13406436, ^^^^^^ SEES IT
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-02-20 08:33 PM
13406395, Naw they 100% got their money's worth
Posted by shygurl, Fri Oct-02-20 05:26 PM
Truly and completely trump has been the gift that keeps on giving to them.
13406403, Ha, good point
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 05:58 PM
People often talk of him as a failed president. But he's got to be the most successful operation of all time.
13406384, joe biden taking down negative ads.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 04:49 PM
https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1312146075113807872
-----
NEWS: @JoeBiden is taking down his negative ads, going all-positive, per source familiar.

Decision was made *before* WH put out word Trump was going to Walter Reed
------

now would be a great time for him and dems across the entire country to just promote covid safety/mitigation protocols and access to healthcare.
13406396, That is fine and the right thing to do but don’t stop campaigning
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 05:30 PM
Just go positive and ads about Joe wearing a mask.
13406404, are they only cancelling negative ads?
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 06:06 PM

Cuz...fucking Democrats man.

I get it- you can’t be out partying over this.

And maybe I could be convinced that going strictly
positive for a few days is the smart call.


But are they cancelling all ads?


People are underestimating how a crisis can turn
up “patriotism”

And if Dems let off the gas now...I don’t know man.


Dems are going to fuck this up. Going to fuck around
and make it look like THEY support trump.


And dudes on here think Trumps going to prison? Dems
won’t even talk mean about him cuz he’s sick.

I don’t think this thing is good for Dems at all, especially
if they Dem this up.

Trump gets sympathy, gets to skip debates, controls
the news cycle, taxes? What taxes?, Dems pump the
breaks on campaigning, etc.

I feel worse about Biden’s chances than yesterday


13406409, Seems so. I just saw one during HT of the Oakland-Detroit soccer game nm
Posted by vik, Fri Oct-02-20 06:15 PM
13406413, trump campaign wont be taking down negative ads.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 06:25 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1312167166158860288
-----
NEW: Trump campaign indicates it will not join @JoeBiden in pulling negative ads.

“Joe Biden used his speech in Michigan today to attack President Trump. He’s in no position to say anything," @TimMurtaugh tells me.
-----

no shame.
13406417, LOL Joe’s team fell for it
Posted by Stadiq, Fri Oct-02-20 06:53 PM
13406392, I’m completely flabbergasted
Posted by bshelly, Fri Oct-02-20 05:14 PM
Like, I can’t process anything.
13406394, he didn't look bad walking to Marine One
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 05:26 PM
i was a little bummed
13406397, Yep...and I figured it landed so close so we couldn’t see him come out
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Oct-02-20 05:33 PM
.
13406405, I assume they pumped full of more drugs than a pharmacy.
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-02-20 06:06 PM
13406399, President Trump Has Been Treated With an Experimental COVID-19 Antibody Cocktail.
Posted by handle, Fri Oct-02-20 05:47 PM
Source: Time

U.S. President Donald Trump has received a promising but experimental COVID-19 drug still in clinical trials, according to a White House statement released Friday afternoon, following his diagnosis with the disease.

Sean Conley, the President’s personal physician, wrote in a memo that he treated Trump with an eight-gram dose of Regeneron’s experimental antibody cocktail. Trump has also received zinc, vitamin D, aspirin, melatonin and a heartburn drug thought to help fight COVID-19.

...

Trump is “fatigued but in good spirits” following his diagnosis with COVID-19, Conley wrote in his memo. He has reportedly experienced mild symptoms so far. First Lady Melania Trump, who also tested positive for the coronavirus, has a headache and mild cough, according to the memo. Trump is being taken to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for a “few days,” the Associated Press reported late Friday afternoon.



Read more: https://time.com/5895771/trump-regeneron-covid-cocktail/
13406412, so they are copying the Cubans.......
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-02-20 06:21 PM
13406401, I still don’t believe it...
Posted by Trinity444, Fri Oct-02-20 05:50 PM
nope.
folks already feeling sorry for him...






13406414, I do not buy the hoax theory.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Oct-02-20 06:27 PM
What would he have to gain? All his followers already believe it's nothing. Way too many people of note have gotten it and were mild cases or asymptomatic. I'd MAYBE buy that he faked having it months ago to get out ahead of the narrative...but he's got this shit. Sometimes the easiest explanation is the right one.

He has it. And he's shitting bricks.
13406419, He has it, and he knew he had it before the debate
Posted by Oak27, Fri Oct-02-20 07:16 PM
He showed up late and avoided tested and they had to use the "honor" system, something Trump clearly has none of.

They were prob going to try to keep this completely under wraps until everyone around him started testing positive and he started showing symptoms.
13406433, yeah the hoax theory is dead.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 08:07 PM
multiple people have tested positive from the same superspreader event.

prolly more to come.
13406423, Republican Judiciary Committee member Thom Tillis has it.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-02-20 07:23 PM
13406429, I just hope Biden is okay
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 07:46 PM
I know he tested negative today, I hope that continues.
13406438, Right, DT was probably infected during the debate and the way he was...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-02-20 08:53 PM
yelling extended the “6 foot” rule
13406434, Could that SCOTUS nominee be spreading it?
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 08:13 PM
It seems like a lot of people who attended the RG announcement are coming up positive now.
13406445, it may not be her but lots of people who attended are now positive
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 09:11 PM
KellyAnne Conway hasn’t been confirmed, but she was sitting very close to 3 or 4 people who had it and her daughter thinks she has it. There will be more positives. Congress should shut it down for a couple weeks.


https://twitter.com/tmthomasdc/status/1312177048786366465?s=21
13406452, Reports are now coming out that Conway has tested positive
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-02-20 09:31 PM
13406447, Kellyanne Conway's kid is on TikTok saying her mom's got it
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 09:14 PM
https://twitter.com/KalhanR/status/1312212267006484480?s=20

and going off on Trump

https://twitter.com/KalhanR/status/1312212595403706369?s=20

Note: this has not been verified yet

Update: This HAS been verified
13406449, its breaking news on CNN with her tweet verifying she has it
Posted by rdhull, Fri Oct-02-20 09:23 PM
>https://twitter.com/KalhanR/status/1312212267006484480?s=20
>
>and going off on Trump
>
>https://twitter.com/KalhanR/status/1312212595403706369?s=20
>
>Note: this has not been verified yet
>
>
13406450, Lol I just hopped back on to edit w/ the update
Posted by navajo joe, Fri Oct-02-20 09:25 PM
I'm lovin' it.
13406451, She had a face to face conversation with Bill Barr
Posted by makaveli, Fri Oct-02-20 09:30 PM
https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/status/1312220870459494410?s=21

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1312219906855841793?s=21



13406459, yay!
Posted by rdhull, Fri Oct-02-20 09:54 PM
>https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/status/1312220870459494410?s=21
>
>https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1312219906855841793?s=21
>
>
>
>
13406477, LOL
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Sat Oct-03-20 01:12 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/3rgXBOmTlzyFCURutG/giphy.gif



13406470, trump campaign manager bill stepien tests positive.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 10:55 PM
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1312238289500418051
——-
Trump campaign manager tests positive for Covid-19 - POLITICO

https://t.co/vS8UcyoxPs?amp=1
——-

this is a legitimate outbreak. they should shut down and quarantine the white house and congress to keep other people from getting infected.
13406472, You work for the Trump campaign? is the new Have you traveled to China?
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Oct-02-20 11:03 PM
13406474, president xi in china is calling it the white house virus.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-02-20 11:10 PM
13406475, lol I hope this is true.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 11:17 PM
13406473, Jeezus.
Posted by Brew, Fri Oct-02-20 11:07 PM
13406482, ron johnson come on down.
Posted by Reeq, Sat Oct-03-20 08:06 AM
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1312376365019205634
-----
🚨🚨BREAKING … SEN. RON JOHNSON has Covid. 3rd Senate Republican to test positive
-----
13406483, I came in to make post with EXACT title
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 08:09 AM
13406484, 87 y.o. Chuck Grassley is only one with principles: refuses to get tested
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 08:13 AM
Good Luck Chuck
13406485, Lol, wasn't even at the ACB Spit-in-Each-Other's-Mouth-a-thon
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 08:17 AM
He went out and got that shit on his own

13406490, I wonder if Russian Ron still thinks we’re overreacting
Posted by makaveli, Sat Oct-03-20 09:22 AM
13406495, Chris Christie is positive
Posted by makaveli, Sat Oct-03-20 10:43 AM
He took things a bridge too far.
13406496, Good luck with that, big guy.
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 10:45 AM
13406498, Chris Christie has tested positive for cheeseburgers
Posted by calij81, Sat Oct-03-20 11:09 AM
with a side of Covid.
13406500, The thing is we’re just hearing about officials and key staffers...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-03-20 11:12 AM
what about secret service, military staff, service staff, reporters?
13406504, Three reporters
Posted by Lurkmode, Sat Oct-03-20 11:18 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/media/journalists-white-house-covid-19/index.html


New York (CNN Business)A widening coronavirus outbreak at the White House has left members of the media scrambling to find out if they, too, are infected.

Three journalists who work at the White House tested positive on Friday, according to a series of memos from the White House Correspondents Association.

"Given these positive cases, the president's diagnosis and positive cases among other members of the White House staff, a number of White House journalists are self-isolating pending diagnostic testing," the correspondents association said in a email to members Friday night.
A White House staffer who sits in the "lower press" area of the West Wing also received a confirmed positive result on Friday morning.
Reporters and White House spokespeople work together in cramped quarters, often meeting the definition of close contact.

13406501, His doctor says the diagnosis was 72 hours ago!
Posted by Hitokiri, Sat Oct-03-20 11:14 AM
That they gave him that antibody treatment 48 hours ago.
Nigga! He told us he was covid+ 36 hours ago!

Woooowwwwwwwwww
13406506, Lol, they would have been better off putting a monkey in a lab coat
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 11:22 AM
Cuz that timeline is gonna be a problem.
13406514, Yep, now people will be asking when the WH knew
Posted by calij81, Sat Oct-03-20 12:00 PM
Sounds like Trump and the White House knew he was Covid positive on Thursday and possibly Wednesday.
13406519, He probably knew he had it at the debate
Posted by handle, Sat Oct-03-20 12:23 PM
He's lied so much I distrust everything he is saying.
13406525, Doc just released a clean-up memo...and spelled Regeneron wrong
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 12:58 PM
LOL

The best people
13406507, From the Onion
Posted by makaveli, Sat Oct-03-20 11:25 AM
https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1312100547890044928?s=21


Btw, it sounds like Trump is not doing well.
13406508, Most of the DT supporters posted up outside Walter Reed ARE wearing...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-03-20 11:28 AM
masks unlike they usually are
13406523, Flipmode is the greatest
Posted by Triptych, Sat Oct-03-20 12:43 PM
13406526, ^^I like this
Posted by handle, Sat Oct-03-20 12:59 PM
I think it would made a good Tweet
13406791, BRUH
Posted by Damali, Mon Oct-05-20 09:55 PM
13406513, Rudy has to be next on the summer jam screen right?
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-03-20 11:59 AM
13406518, I keep hoping Stephen Miller is next
Posted by calij81, Sat Oct-03-20 12:22 PM
13406521, Barr would be nice
Posted by Mynoriti, Sat Oct-03-20 12:31 PM
Miller is young and not human, he'll likely be fine
13406522, Everyone of them not wearing masks
Posted by handle, Sat Oct-03-20 12:37 PM
All of them can be used as cautionary tales and lessons.
13406529, Can bats get it from humans?
Posted by Stadiq, Sat Oct-03-20 02:34 PM
13406540, Rudy’s tough ass can survive anything lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-03-20 05:20 PM
13406527, Doctor keeps getting basic facts about Regeneron wrong
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Oct-03-20 01:28 PM
Like the name and what kind of treatment it is:

https://twitter.com/saraecook/status/1312456627438592001?s=20

That fool graduated from Trump University
13406528, Let's hope so
Posted by Cold Truth, Sat Oct-03-20 02:04 PM
>That fool graduated from Trump University
13406530, Where are Jared and Ivanka?
Posted by makaveli, Sat Oct-03-20 02:43 PM
13406536, QTNA
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-03-20 04:04 PM
13406539, Christie now in the hospital
Posted by makaveli, Sat Oct-03-20 05:07 PM
Says it’s precautionary.
13406542, Ok seeing all this shit happening to these people makes me feel vindicated.
Posted by walihorse, Sat Oct-03-20 05:26 PM
I'm glad that the people in my bubble has been precautious and takes this serious.

Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.
13406548, He tweeted a video
Posted by handle, Sat Oct-03-20 08:14 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312525833505058816

Looks like he's going to make it.

He's still full of shit - seems like he is himself. But he's working hard - at least that what the important files strewn across the desk say to me - I am hard at work!
13406555, https://www.instagram.com/p/CF2f0dyh56T/?igshid=1y1kqz92t9xdx
Posted by Bambino Grande, Sun Oct-04-20 01:12 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CF2f0dyh56T/?igshid=1y1kqz92t9xdx
13406556, seems like a monkeys/typewriters situation
Posted by hardware, Sun Oct-04-20 02:02 AM
13406562, they edited out him coughing (and did a bad job at it).
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 07:50 AM
https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1312534750725201920

mainstream outlets starting to confirm it:

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1312583985000787969

lol @ this
https://twitter.com/JasonMillerinDC/status/1312541934318243841
13406563, the 2 photos of him 'working' were taken 10 minutes apart.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 07:54 AM
https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1312616578773446656

not to mention using a sharpie to write on blank paper.
https://twitter.com/Seanbabydotcom/status/1312600392841064448


this (and the 'im perfectly healthy' propaganda videos) is what they do in places like north korea.
13406564, out of touch, looking like Ebeneezer Scrooge in A Christmas Carol
Posted by DJR, Sun Oct-04-20 08:35 AM
What, no quill? That’s really what this flabby and sick asshole thinks people do at work isn’t it? They sit there and write stuff.
13406565, Wouldn't wish rona on anybody but...
Posted by Kira, Sun Oct-04-20 08:35 AM
This idiot and his administration never took this seriously. This led to 400,000+ deaths and a recession that sets this country back another decade.

For fuck's sake Trump told his supporters to drink bleach and inject it. Someone died over this. Now this administration plays victim while they mocked everyone before.

His supporters continue killing people with their refusal to adhere to CDC guidelines.
13406566, Trump should be willing to sacrifice his life to keep the economy moving
Posted by DJR, Sun Oct-04-20 09:01 AM
He’s old and has underlying conditions and is going to die soon anyway. Get back to work and get my stocks back up you flabby old bitch.
13406567, human capital stock!
Posted by navajo joe, Sun Oct-04-20 09:03 AM
13406572, They lie about EVERYTHING.
Posted by Ryan M, Sun Oct-04-20 11:10 AM
Honestly if they came out and said he was very sick, they might garner some sympathy. But oh well.
13406574, They're saying he's getting out of the hospital tomorrow (Mon).
Posted by Teknontheou, Sun Oct-04-20 11:20 AM
He faked this.
13406578, I don’t think he’s getting out tomorrow and I don’t think he’s faking it
Posted by makaveli, Sun Oct-04-20 12:38 PM
He’s pretended like it’s no big deal the whole time. I doubt he would go to the hospital if he didn’t need to. If he was looking for a sympathy bump, it didn’t work. He’s also been given medications that indicate a serious case of COVID.
13406584, Dr. Sean Conley is lying
Posted by handle, Sun Oct-04-20 03:43 PM
https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-international-news-politics-ap-top-news-cac560ef169f9e5343d98a128573194a

--SWIPE--
Pressed about conflicting information he and the White House released on Saturday, Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley acknowledged that he had tried to present a rosy description of the president’s condition.

“I was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude of the team, that the president, that his course of illness has had. Didn’t want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction,” Conley said. “And in doing so, came off like we’re trying to hide something, which wasn’t necessarily true. The fact of the matter is that he’s doing really well.”
----
13406587, I don't even have words
Posted by navajo joe, Sun Oct-04-20 05:12 PM
13406588, So he left the hospital for a parade and went back?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-04-20 05:23 PM
13406589, Back to total curbside everything. If the president is sick with diagnosed corona and driving around what do you think that signals to people that listen to him?
Posted by MEAT, Sun Oct-04-20 05:26 PM
Back to total curbside everything. If the president is sick with diagnosed corona and driving around what do you think that signals to people that listen to him?
13406591, He put those secret service agents lives at risk for a photo op
Posted by makaveli, Sun Oct-04-20 05:28 PM
There is no ventilation in those SUV’s.
13406592, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waf46eBajkw
Posted by mrhood75, Sun Oct-04-20 05:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waf46eBajkw
13406594, From a Walter Reed physician
Posted by makaveli, Sun Oct-04-20 05:55 PM
https://twitter.com/rulajebreal/status/1312887188544204802?s=21
13406601, we live in the dumbest country.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 07:11 PM
any doctor who signed off on that should have their license revoked.

and if they didnt sign off on that...they should be forced to come out on camera and say the president did it against their guidance.
13406606, We're at the part of the movie where....
Posted by handle, Sun Oct-04-20 08:06 PM
We're at the part of the movie where "the bad guy" does something so over the line and reckless that even his henchmen want to switch to the other side - but he kills them when he senses it.
13406590, Barr is now self quarantining
Posted by makaveli, Sun Oct-04-20 05:27 PM
After initially refusing to.
13406598, which means he prolly tested positive
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 06:45 PM
whether he actually discloses it or not.

just like trump. the abrupt ‘oh hey im gonna quarantine just to be safe’ after acting like a hard head.
13406599, most likely, yes. Thankfully Biden’s latest test was a negative
Posted by makaveli, Sun Oct-04-20 06:47 PM
13406600, teflon joe still truckin. swervin away from all malarkey.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 07:01 PM
13406608, RE: teflon joe still truckin. swervin away from all malarkey.
Posted by Mgmt, Sun Oct-04-20 08:19 PM
>
I laughed out loud at this
13406602, smh.
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-04-20 07:14 PM
motherfuckers voted for this asshole. enthusiastically, even.

I hope this nukes the GOP forever. they can't be trusted to govern.
13406605, And they will again, white people hate black people THAT much...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-04-20 07:31 PM
>motherfuckers voted for this asshole. enthusiastically,
>even.

13406603, LMAO.... WH Gift Shop: $100 Trump Defeats Covid coins
Posted by Oak27, Sun Oct-04-20 07:23 PM
https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/trump-defeats-covid.htm
13406612, fake news lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-04-20 08:29 PM
13406604, we all know trump knew he was positive at the debate.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 07:29 PM
i dont know why the wh is continuing with this charade.

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1312887995733872640
13406607, I believe it now...
Posted by Trinity444, Sun Oct-04-20 08:16 PM
13406610, team biden should resume negative ads and bury these sons of bitches.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 08:22 PM
theres so much material from the last week alone.

and the gop/trump campaign are still acting like assholes throughout this whole ordeal.
13406619, the GOP goes low, the Dems go high, the map goes red
Posted by Stadiq, Sun Oct-04-20 09:31 PM

Dems absolute refusal to learn is completely infuriating.

13406613, nytimes is pretty much a parody of itself at this point.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 08:39 PM
https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1312925216138551298

are you fucking kidding me?
13406614, What a joke
Posted by makaveli, Sun Oct-04-20 08:54 PM
13406622, fuck NYT
Posted by will_5198, Sun Oct-04-20 10:17 PM
lots of good writers buried under their shitty management
13406640, I don't see the issue. They've been blasting the seriousness of
Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Oct-05-20 07:44 AM
Trump's condition and the dishonesty of the WH regarding his sickness since the news dropped. So for days it's been nothing but Trump being at risk and sicker than he admits (even today that's the tune)

Then, there is a tiny aside today saying Biden's team is tight with info regarding his health.

From the article:
The approaches to transparency and accuracy that the two presidential candidates’ teams have taken on their health are not comparable. Mr. Biden, the former vice president, is running against an incumbent who has a long record of falsehoods, and whose White House has withheld critical information and offered misleading or suspect statements, including about the president’s health.
13406643, as usual, the mid-morning reworking to be less click-baity:
Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Oct-05-20 08:48 AM
"Joe Biden again tested negative for the virus, but his team has kept his safety protocols largely under wraps."
13406621, just putting my name all up in the poast. this shit remains... i don't
Posted by poetx, Sun Oct-04-20 09:44 PM
even got the words.

lol.

i hope he is sick as hell. i hope he don't die, but only because i want him alive to see ALL of his shit crash and burn and for him and his crooked ass kids and his "i don't geev a foke about zee chreestmus or thee leetle kids" wife all to to fucking jail.

i have zero empathy for him. i used it up on all the other 210k people who have died of this and the untold million(s) of others who will suffer lifetime debilitating (and now, pre-existing) conditions. and the millions out of work. and the millions making faustian decisions to put themselves, and by extension, their families in harms way because this stupid ass country, largely following his dumbass lead, can't show common fucking human decency to mask up, chill and let this shit fall back like the other sane countries have done.

so, yeah, my empathy all out.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
13406624, you knew this shit was astroturfed.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-04-20 10:28 PM
https://twitter.com/LukeBrussel/status/1312899748303695872
-----
Important to note: The crowd outside Walter Reed Medical Center is not a spontaneous display of support for Trump. The Maryland Republican Party has been organizing it from its start.

https://t.co/zMhwnMnnAR?amp=1
-----
13406626, not surprised, what’s crazy is Walter Reed IS a hospital. We all know...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-04-20 10:43 PM
how presidential security can paralyze a situation. Families who have people as patients there are already probably majorly inconvenienced with him just being there let alone taking joyrides around the building. I wonder how many people have family members with severe medical conditions that they are not allowed to see because of this circus.
13406635, Jim Carrey/SNL not giving a FUCK
Posted by Adwhizz, Mon Oct-05-20 05:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw

Not taking their foot off the gas pedal even a little bit!
13406651, Fuck SNL - it's AWFUL
Posted by handle, Mon Oct-05-20 09:55 AM
If they'd rehearse this shit, and stop making changes then they might be able to do comedy with comedic timing.

This shit is AWFUL. Just shit. Where's the timing?

And their "hot take" on Biden is fucking braindead.

And Chris Rock's monolog was idiotic - ALL of his political takes are fucking stupid.

And during a pandemic they staff UP - now with the most cast members they've ever had???

If ANYONE gets COVID on that staff then NBC should be criminaly charged.
13406654, Press Sec is a positive
Posted by makaveli, Mon Oct-05-20 10:32 AM
https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1313138977063546880?s=21
13406672, i seen somebody on twitter call her bologna lips.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Oct-05-20 11:50 AM
13406690, im really into this one
Posted by fontgangsta, Mon Oct-05-20 12:32 PM
fuck this lying as bitch
also she answered press questions, without a mask, literally yesterday
so double fuck her
13406693, I can understand vilifiying her
Posted by Numba_33, Mon Oct-05-20 12:37 PM
but I feel sorry if there's any press covering the White House that happens to get sick as result of her directly spreading the virus to them.

Hopefully the reporters that normally convene in that small briefing room wear masks and sit far away from the front row.
13406740, i believe they do
Posted by fontgangsta, Mon Oct-05-20 03:21 PM
>Hopefully the reporters that normally convene in that small
>briefing room wear masks and sit far away from the front row.

because they're not idiots
i mean honestly, avoiding covid for most people is basically just an IQ test at this point with all we know about it now.

6feet, mask, wash hands - it almost impossible to get it if you are vigilant about those 3 simple things

obv there are high risk jobs - health care and cashiers probly chief among them - dont mean to minimize their risk or intelligence upon possible contraction.
'
But generally speaking, its not hard to go about your life and stay safe, esp with all the safety measures that most businesses have in place now.
13406657, I’m Waiting for Bill Barr COVID announcement
Posted by sersey, Mon Oct-05-20 11:09 AM
He was wide mouthed talking with Kellyanne Conway in the rose garden last week. He’s gotta have it. But as AG I’m wondering if his role requires home to publicly announce his health status. Either way he’s a snake and will hide the truth any way he can.
13406671, don jr pushing for an intervention to keep trump in hospital.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Oct-05-20 11:49 AM
https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/1313129608812912646
13406673, This is like Arrested Development (TV Show)
Posted by handle, Mon Oct-05-20 11:51 AM
Maybe Don loves his dad? That's unexpected.
13406676, I don’t doubt that Don Jr loves his dad but his dad has never loved him
Posted by calij81, Mon Oct-05-20 11:57 AM
Just like Don Sr loved his dad, mom and first three wives but none of them loved him.
13406694, Don Jr. just wants that mantle
Posted by fontgangsta, Mon Oct-05-20 12:38 PM
he doesnt want daddy to run the Trump name into the ground bc baby boy think he got next (he doesn't - if the remaining Rs don't excommunicate the Trumps after getting drowned in this election, its gonna be Ivanka)
13406674, And apparently they're all in agreement that this morning's tweet-storm
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Oct-05-20 11:51 AM
Was a bad idea.

I'm willing to bet the drive-by was encouraged by Ivanka and Jared.
13406678, This sounds familiar
Posted by sectachrome86, Mon Oct-05-20 12:03 PM
"Every day Fred Sr. would go to the office in Brooklyn and they would give him blank papers to sort through and sign."
13406716, Trump says he's coming home 6:15pm EST
Posted by JiggysMyDayJob, Mon Oct-05-20 01:58 PM
Acting like he getting out the pen after doing a 10 year bid.

I hope this is a premature exit and against the doctor's suggestions and he just gets worse.
13406718, That's it President Biff's latest tweet convinced me this was bullshit
Posted by walihorse, Mon Oct-05-20 02:01 PM
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070?s=20

This was for show or for sympathy. 200,000+ Americans are dead. Fuck this guy. I hope he gets it again and suffers.
13406719, Get's it again? He still has it
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Oct-05-20 02:04 PM
Him being sick and refusing to stay in the hospital because he thinks it makes him look weak is completely on-brand.

In a few days, he's going to be pushing for going back on the campaign trail.
13406741, Well if he got its probably mild, if not outright fake
Posted by walihorse, Mon Oct-05-20 03:24 PM
13406745, They ran three experiemental drugs on him, he's sick, it's not mild
Posted by MEAT, Mon Oct-05-20 03:33 PM
And he likely has lung damage.
13406748, I get it. I just don't trust anything to do with him.
Posted by walihorse, Mon Oct-05-20 03:43 PM
13406750, For this to be a hoax here's what you'd have to believe
Posted by MEAT, Mon Oct-05-20 03:50 PM
That all 30 and counting of the other people that are in close proximity to him are also in on the hoax, staff and press and debate prep people in Cleveland are in on it. Or that all of those people got sick and he did not.

And that they've let out enough specific information about drugs they're providing him (which haven't seen a stock bump) to save his life ... but also not disclosing the degree that his life is endanger because downplaying the severity helps maximize the theatrics of recovery??? (wouldn't explaining the severity be part of the miracle?)


The most likely explanation is he's sicker than he's letting on, he's been sicker for longer than is publicly known, and he's a known liar that physically wears orange makeup to tan, has an absurd combover to hide balding, lies about the size of his hands, lies about his weight, lies about his height, lies about his bmi, and lied about his other walter reed trip a few months ago ... but this one time he by gosh is telling the truth and you need to believe it.

Here is the hospitalization and death rate of people by age range compared to 18-29 year olds.
For the 74 year out man in shitty health even before a disease.
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1313218512396181506?s=20
13406803, NYT's The Daily did a good job explaining the initial downplay
Posted by Nodima, Tue Oct-06-20 04:01 AM
Trump has long been a believer in the old '80s business guy / pseudo-buddhist concept of "positive thinking", and thus had his personal physician sworn to a public position that if he was honest about the threat of the virus on his life, it would manifest negatively, but if he were optimistic about its outcome, the outcome would be positive.


So this guy bobs and weaves around questions about if and when Trump was on oxygen or is having a mild reaction because, regardless of whether he was or wasn't, at the time of questioning he wasn't and that should mean he never will be again.


Additionally, that means feeling better and leaving the hospital means there'll never be a need to go back because the worst of it is over - the worst of it might not have even happened if everyone hadn't been so damn worried that it likely would!


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
13406899, This is gibberish.
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 12:39 PM
They are not his personal physicians. They are government employees.
Everything else is also nonsense when bounced against that fact.

Happy thoughts thinking publically is not good enough given the stakes.
13406963, Sounds like they did a good job spreading his bs
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Oct-06-20 03:12 PM
Trump positive thinking ? Come on.
13406746, They don't give you those drugs if it's mild.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Oct-05-20 03:41 PM
And as many are saying, he's likely feeling "GREAT!" because he's pumped full of enough steroids to kill a small whale. That shit wears off. And they're going to try as hard as they can to hide it, but he hasn't even hit the day 7/8 point where it REALLY gets bad.
13406749, That and he's a fucking documented liar for decades about EVERYTHING
Posted by MEAT, Mon Oct-05-20 03:43 PM
13406720, He's insane
Posted by handle, Mon Oct-05-20 02:12 PM
>Don’t be afraid of Covid.

INSANE!

If anyone is still his ally they too are insane and can NEVER NEVER be trusted EVER.
13406722, His Press Secretary
Posted by Numba_33, Mon Oct-05-20 02:24 PM
and two additional staff that work for her literally came back with positive test results today.


He thinks it's wise and prudent to go back to the White House tomorrow.


This wouldn't make sense if it were scripted on television.


Truly wild how much racism/bigotry empowers folks to support this bumbling idiot.
13406732, don't be afraid of covid
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Oct-05-20 02:49 PM
if you get it, just have marine one fly you to walter reed and have your medical team drop everything and prioritize your care and give you access to every treatment possibly available.

if only the 200k people who died weren't such scared babies .
13406747, I don't know if playing it down is the move
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Oct-05-20 03:42 PM
The fact that he was hospitalized and pumped up with experimental drugs kind of indicates that it is something to be afraid of.

Using death as the metric of whether or not it's something to be worried about is short sighted. Death is only one extreme result.
And I think people recognize that.

What this episode also puts front and center is how quickly and easily it spreads. And the importance of prevention (like masks and distancing). Things that Trump and them continue to mock.
13406751, have you ever been on steroids? you feel like you could take lebron 1 on 1
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Oct-05-20 03:50 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406721, The schadenfreude I'm going to feel from this collapse will be euphoric
Posted by MEAT, Mon Oct-05-20 02:18 PM
74 year olds don't recover from anything quickly. Nothing.
Not a dry nose, not a bruise, not a fall, not a hand nail.
Literally nothing.
I'm sure he feels good as hell hopped up on steroids.
But steroids have to end because of the heart.
13406743, I wonder how the pray for his recovery liberals are feeling right about now
Posted by MEAT, Mon Oct-05-20 03:26 PM
13406756, ^^^ this. Plus the media
Posted by Stadiq, Mon Oct-05-20 04:00 PM

I was scratching my head at "praying for a speedy recovery for this guy I have been (rightfully) calling a fascist wannabe dictator and white supremecist"

Look, I get you cant say "I hope he drops dead" in many cases.

But nothing is also an option.

Another reason why a lot of people don't take the left/liberal stance on how *evil* the GOP is.

"vote for us because the other side is evil, racist, sexist, fascist, war hungry, etc etc etc"

then "praying for his recovery", becoming besties with W at funerals and baseball games, making Mitt Romney a hero, etc.

Does not add up. They can't help themselves.



and the media...

I don't think he faked this...but either way the media fell for this shit as usual.

Taxes, 200k+ deaths, terrible debate, fuck christmas, etc?

All gone.

Hell, not just that- even the reckless behavior leading up to the Hope story, and the cover up, isn't being discussed nearly as much as guessing on his health and covering his tone.


Its a fucking nightmare. The 'resistance' and news media are worthless.
13406744, Still thinking about the brief period of elation on Twitter
Posted by sectachrome86, Mon Oct-05-20 03:30 PM
when it was first announced he had it. People were genuinely happy for the first time in months (years?) because they thought the President of the United States was about to die.
13406754, whats even crazier
Posted by fontgangsta, Mon Oct-05-20 03:57 PM
those first 2 days when he was too sick to do anything but shut the fuck up, actually felt...normal. at least in terms of the news cycle.
which is bananas to say since the news cycle was literally covering the most serious illness that a president has faced in decades.

it was weird and refreshing and i can't wait til next year when i dont have to think about what the president said 4 times a day
13406758, Saw a doc on Twitter say that his Twitter activity should be a vital sign nm
Posted by vik, Mon Oct-05-20 04:30 PM
13406793, wait till he actually dies...its gonna be epic
Posted by Damali, Mon Oct-05-20 10:00 PM
it can't happen soon enough.

d
13406760, What in the entire fuck......
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Oct-05-20 04:37 PM
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/don-jr-thinks-trump-is-acting-crazy-presidents-covid-joyride-has-family-divided
13406762, The info about his father is telling.
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-05-20 05:00 PM
13406768, In Marine One talking covid back to the white house
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-05-20 05:52 PM
13406780, He’s not well, physically or mentally
Posted by makaveli, Mon Oct-05-20 08:16 PM
And apparently Giuliani is combing through an interview on Fox?
13406784, .
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-05-20 08:37 PM
Wrong spot.
13406781, This guy looks very concerned and dare I say scared?
Posted by Oak27, Mon Oct-05-20 08:22 PM
https://twitter.com/brenonade/status/1313256208363552769
https://twitter.com/brenonade/status/1313263278613827585
13406782, Because he’s very sick from a deadly virus
Posted by MEAT, Mon Oct-05-20 08:24 PM
And doesn’t have the psychology to deal with not being in control.
13406783, I don't know which way it's going to go
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Oct-05-20 08:28 PM
but it does not look good for him to be that strained with what they've got him on

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406785, Die motherfucker.
Posted by Brew, Mon Oct-05-20 08:38 PM
13406786, the hell is WRONG with him?
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-05-20 08:49 PM
Sick with a potentially deadly disease, and he’s still more concerned with dishonestly trying to get himself over and divide people.

Either Russia has guns on his family right now and is forcing his hand, or he’s this demented.
13406787, Covid is eating his lungs up. You never get enough air.
Posted by Castro, Mon Oct-05-20 09:04 PM
Trying to climb stairs???? Walk more than 10 feet?!?!?

Its the worst. If he's pumped full of drugs and is struggling like that, he is in trouble. That isn't fake.
13406788, That's exactly what I thought when I saw the video
Posted by Hitokiri, Mon Oct-05-20 09:26 PM
he's struggling to breathe and hiding it really poorly.
C'mon death. He's ripe.
13406797, this is exactly what theyve done in places like cuba, north korea, etc.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 12:04 AM
media reports leak out about the health of the leader.

the leader does some staged photo op to look healthy and triumphant.

neutral/educated observers will notice how the leader in fact doesnt look healthy.

but none of that matters when you have state media and a spin machine convincing the bulk of the population that the strongman is indeed as strong as he claims.

never thought itd take place in america...and in such a blatant/schlocky and obviously contradictory way. but here we are.
13406798, btw at least the media cant start with that 'new tone' bullshit.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 12:32 AM
cuz he came back still on the same shit.

i was actually more worried that he would come back saying he has a new understanding of the virus and will take it more seriously. then he passes covid relief/stimulus and goes on a charm offensive to soften up bidens support among covid conscious voters.

the media would have fallen for that 'pivot' hook, line and sinker.

but instead...it just ended up as another reminder how delusional and self-centered he is...while continuing to pump out disinformation and put more lives at risk.



13406801, he's never been good at taking advantage of shit
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Oct-06-20 02:12 AM
covid was the PERFECT excuse to close the borders, fuck up trade with china and the dumbass fumbled it

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406802, It would have been so easy for this moron to sell a "pivot"
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Oct-06-20 02:26 AM
He could have still left the hospital today, gone to the White House, and recorded a video saying, "Everyone should wear a mask." That's all he would have needed to do and the press would have sold the "he's changed!!!111!!" narrative. He wouldn't even have to bother making promises that he wouldn't keep, just give the bare minimum effort.

And he fucked that up.
13406804, The worst part is he takes a long jump at it and bails in the sand
Posted by Nodima, Tue Oct-06-20 04:08 AM
I've heard him talking essentially saying this was him essentially getting street smart rather than booksmart and how he finally knows so much about the virus and how it gets treated and he can't wait to share it with us.


But then immediately after (or before? this timeline is all fucked up) he tells the public to not be afraid of COViD and that his case is evidence we can get back to business as usual.


Fucking deranged.


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
13406809, Cmon COVID do your thing
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Oct-06-20 07:45 AM
As I said above. Hope he fuckingnsuffers too
13406810, herman cain timeline:
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 07:52 AM
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1313302684901019648
-----
6/20: Attends Trump Tulsa rally
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s getting better
7/30: Dies
-----

we still have time/hope.
13406819, Trump will probably get 100 times the care Herman Cain got.
Posted by Numba_33, Tue Oct-06-20 08:20 AM
13406886, and he will prolly make 100 times the bad health decisions too lol.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 11:57 AM
13406868, damn for some reason i thought that happened all within a week
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Oct-06-20 10:47 AM
like he went to a rally on a saturday and was gone by thursday

but i did a quick search on the cain posts in here and yeah.. admitted to the hospital one is 7/2. death post is 7/30


>https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1313302684901019648
>-----
>6/20: Attends Trump Tulsa rally
>7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
>7/10: Says he’s improving
>7/15: Says doctors seem happy
>7/27: Says he’s getting better
>7/30: Dies
>-----
>
>we still have time/hope.
13406820, Gotta feel sorry for that White House staff.
Posted by Numba_33, Tue Oct-06-20 08:22 AM
Hope the regular day to day White House staff don't get sick as result of this moron's sick show with his illness.
13406821, right, those are the folks I worry about...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Oct-06-20 08:27 AM
>Hope the regular day to day White House staff don't get sick
>as result of this moron's sick show with his illness.

a lot of them are older black folks that have been there for multiple administrations
13406874, Why he rip the mask off
Posted by naame, Tue Oct-06-20 11:10 AM

stuff it in his pocket and survey the land like a fucking prick

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.
13406878, answer is your signature
Posted by rdhull, Tue Oct-06-20 11:26 AM
>
>stuff it in his pocket and survey the land like a fucking
>prick
>
>America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan
>than it has exported democracy.
13406879, I dont have to be a Trump supporter to not be okay with wishing him dead
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 11:35 AM
the thought of that shouldnt bring joy to anyone who's already content within
13406881, https://tinyurl.com/y6ekehu3
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Oct-06-20 11:46 AM
https://tinyurl.com/y6ekehu3
13406882, Who says it'd be joy? What about relief?
Posted by handle, Tue Oct-06-20 11:48 AM
Ridley wasn't overjoyed when she shot that Alien out of the airlock - she was relived.

And in this case we're not advocating that the airlock button should be pushed, we're watching the Alien press on the button and waiting maybe even hoping or even rooting to see if the airlock opens.
13406883, 210k people have died from a virus that he refuses to take seriously.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 11:49 AM
countless others are left suffering the long term effects, have been sickened and left with insurmountable medical debt, or just had their entire lives completely ruined by the economic fallout that he (and his party) refuses to provide adequate financial relief for.

and we dont even need to get into the increase in hate crimes from the racism he encourages, his dismissal/demonization of people on an entire end of the political spectrum, and any other of the generally despicable/evil attributes of his reign.

wishing death on him is the least some people could do. hes fortunate that a hallmark of the large majority of people who oppose him is empathy.
13406885, Yep. I sleep perfectly well at nite after praying that I wake up to news that he died.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 11:56 AM
>countless others are left suffering the long term effects,
>have been sickened and left with insurmountable medical debt,
>or just had their entire lives completely ruined by the
>economic fallout that he (and his party) refuses to provide
>adequate financial relief for.
>
>and we dont even need to get into the increase in hate crimes
>from the racism he encourages, his dismissal/demonization of
>people on an entire end of the political spectrum, and any
>other of the generally despicable/evil attributes of his
>reign.
>
>wishing death on him is the least some people could do. hes
>fortunate that a hallmark of the large majority of people who
>oppose him is empathy.
13406888, he lives in your head rent free
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 12:12 PM

13406891, Fuck you
Posted by handle, Tue Oct-06-20 12:24 PM
He lives in the Whitehouse and is being PAID.

If you're not seeing this for what it is you need to go fuck off immediately.



13406897, 100.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 12:36 PM
13407000, look at how you're typing to strangers
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 05:31 PM
13407003, I know you
Posted by handle, Tue Oct-06-20 05:38 PM
You are disgusting.
13407005, nah, we're definitely strangers
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 05:40 PM
13406893, You act like he's your neighbor and not a maniac with codes to a nuclear
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 12:28 PM
arsenal.

13406894, CBS News reports top U.S. military officials quarantined after COVID19 exposure:
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 12:31 PM
Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff
Vice Chairman
Army chief of staff
Naval Operations Chief
Air Force chief of staff
CyberCom Commander
SpaceForce operations chief

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1313526334577152000


13407002, nuclear codes have what to do with taking joy from him dying?
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 05:33 PM
13407007, He is, without hyperbole, the most urgent threat to the survival of our
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 05:48 PM
species. Not on a macro sense or existential sense, on an immediate sense.
On most any other country on the planet there would be allied plans to get him out of office.
You: don't worry about the deteriorating roided out manic with nukes
13407013, oh okay
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 06:10 PM
13406895, the fuck is that even supposed to mean?
Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Oct-06-20 12:33 PM
true nonsense of a response.
13406898, LOL. So idiotic.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 12:36 PM
13406908, i get what he means. it just doesn't work here
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Oct-06-20 12:53 PM
especially during a global pandemic
13406909, It means he’s fake woke deep with his politics
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-06-20 12:54 PM
unfortunately I see a few of these on my FB timeline. Dudes I went to a college with who are on some “people don’t even know about the EC..” “I rather stick with the devil I know” “as a Black man I don’t vote because politics isn’t for us.. we need to build as a people”

and other fake deep shit..

they would be better off just saying nothing than ole isn’t their mouth and looking foolish.
13407004, look at you sucking dick again
Posted by atruhead, Tue Oct-06-20 05:39 PM
I dont have a political stance, Im never in these posts bickering or caring about what's being discussed

I dont have to like a politician to not be excited they got sick. a lot of the sentiment is "this is the first time we've felt joy his whole term", that sounds like a lot of time being miserable, with further misery being spread seeing him having COVID
13407140, Why the fuck are you in here if you don’t care about politics?
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Oct-07-20 12:44 PM
Always the above it all niggas jumping off their high horse to tell the crowd how they got so tall..

Only one sucking duck in here is you and your need for attention in post you claim not to care about.

Don’t forget to play with the balls while you are down there.

13407240, Im here to say I dont find bad energy cool or amusing
Posted by atruhead, Wed Oct-07-20 06:51 PM
you sucking dick is running to speak to what you think my political takes are, the same way you've been obsessed with me for I dont know how long on here
13407073, It means there's an unhealthy obsession with him
Posted by atruhead, Wed Oct-07-20 07:58 AM
Brew said he prays every night for his death, maybe that was tongue in cheek or facetious

my question: how does this energy improve your quality of life?
13406905, childish.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 12:50 PM
13406887, If he dies, he dies. It is what it is.
Posted by Oak27, Tue Oct-06-20 12:08 PM
13406902, Lmao.. this is cute.
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-06-20 12:45 PM
13406904, Thanks for checking in, sweetie
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Oct-06-20 12:49 PM
13406916, I haven't wished him dead
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Oct-06-20 01:09 PM
but if my thoughts and hopes and aspirations could kill people


then some of y'all reading this post wouldn't be here right now.

I feel very confident in saying things don't work like that.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13406880, I'm almost shocked they haven't staged a Telethon to "save"
Posted by Adwhizz, Tue Oct-06-20 11:45 AM
Him yet/ Get his fans to Gofundhim some money for treatment.
13406928, That's gonna be for the court costs
Posted by vik, Tue Oct-06-20 01:52 PM
His treatment is all taxpayer-funded.
13406935, Like He wouldn't try/his Supporters WOULDN'T fall for this!?
Posted by Adwhizz, Tue Oct-06-20 02:03 PM
>His treatment is all taxpayer-funded.
13406975, True, true nm
Posted by vik, Tue Oct-06-20 03:55 PM
13406932, trump says he is canceling all covid stimulus negotiations.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 01:58 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313551795646541824

glad he ended that republican facade and made it plain as day who to place the blame for lack of relief on.

repub senators in tough re-election fights should be thrilled that their party leader is openly admitting they dont really care about giving americans a helping hand (which they paid for with their tax money).

someone maybe should have told him about how the markets would react.
https://twitter.com/EMPosts/status/1313553619447410688

the recent rally he loves to brag about was based on an expected stimulus package.
13406936, Let me wait until he's voted out, then litigates the election, then maybe
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 02:05 PM
He'll leave in February or March
13406937, I have so many bad things to say about this man
Posted by Oak27, Tue Oct-06-20 02:06 PM
but thankfully I'm content within
13406938, LOL
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Oct-06-20 02:09 PM
13406941, Lmao
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-06-20 02:12 PM
13406944, Hahahahaha
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 02:18 PM
13406945, hahaha!
Posted by Stadiq, Tue Oct-06-20 02:20 PM
13406946, lol
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 02:23 PM
13406949, 💀
Posted by mista k5, Tue Oct-06-20 02:29 PM
aka trump
13406957, top notch reply
Posted by thegodcam, Tue Oct-06-20 02:55 PM
13407020, LOL
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Oct-06-20 06:34 PM
13407072, sorry you cant distinguish between not liking him and hoping for death
Posted by atruhead, Wed Oct-07-20 07:55 AM
13407112, Where did I say I hope he dies?
Posted by Oak27, Wed Oct-07-20 11:22 AM
Not giving a fuck/having zero sympathy if he dies =/= wishing death upon him
13407242, I agree, Im pretty much with you on not caring
Posted by atruhead, Wed Oct-07-20 06:52 PM
I was just replying to your "content within" jab
13407164, This dude lowkey one of the funniest posters
Posted by Amritsar, Wed Oct-07-20 01:59 PM
I guess not so lowkey anymore with the 25 active posters left haha

13406943, It's a bold strategy, Cotton
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Oct-06-20 02:17 PM
13406948, love a good Dodgeball reference.
Posted by PROMO, Tue Oct-06-20 02:28 PM
13406958, this is disgusting....I KNOW people personally...
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Oct-06-20 02:58 PM
who are fucking hurting, right now. Scrambling to keep what they have. How do people become this evil and callous?
13406978, Vote for me and you'll be $1,200 richer... fuck outta here
Posted by walihorse, Tue Oct-06-20 03:58 PM
13407008, Disgusting...
Posted by luminous, Tue Oct-06-20 05:58 PM
Fed's Jerome Powell Calls For More Economic Aid, Warning 'Weakness Feeds On Weakness'

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/06/920770414/feds-jerome-powell-calls-for-more-economic-aid-warning-weakness-feeds-on-weaknes


Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell urged Congress to provide another round of pandemic relief Tuesday, saying it's better to do too much than too little.

However, hours later, President Trump dashed hopes for any quick deal with lawmakers, saying he'd called a halt to negotiations until after the November election.

In an earlier speech Tuesday, Powell had noted the economy was bouncing back more quickly from the pandemic recession than many forecasters expected. But he added that the recovery is far from complete – echoing comments he made to NPR during an interview last month.

"Even if policy actions ultimately prove to be greater than needed, they will not go to waste," Powell said in a speech Tuesday to the National Association for Business Economics. "The recovery will be stronger and move faster if monetary policy and fiscal policy continue to work side by side to provide support to the economy until it is clearly out of the woods."

He also warned the group that without additional support, the economy could slip into a downward spiral "as weakness feeds on weakness."

"A long period of unnecessarily slow progress could continue to exacerbate existing disparities in our economy," Powell said. "That would be tragic, especially in light of our country's progress on these issues in the years leading up to the pandemic."

Congress passed several relief bills earlier in the pandemic, including the $2.2 trillion CARES Act, which provided for additional unemployment benefits of up to $600 a week for many individuals.

However, most of the aid provided by Congress has expired.

Over the weekend, Trump seemed eager for additional relief, tweeting, "OUR GREAT USA WANTS & NEEDS STIMULUS."

But by Tuesday afternoon, the president had changed course, rejecting Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's call for an additional $2.4 trillion in aid.

"I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election when, immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business," Trump tweeted.

The president's move sent the stock market tumbling. The Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 index, which had been up before Trump's tweet, both closed in the red, with the Dow losing 375 points or 1.3% and the S&P down 1.4%.

Powell credited the "extraordinary" relief measures passed early in the pandemic with helping to avoid a deeper recession and setting the stage for a partial rebound.

But recent indicators have shown the economic recovery is starting to slow as infections continue to spread. The labor market also remains under stress: Almost half the 22 million jobs lost in the spring have not been replaced.

Powell said Tuesday it may be some time before people whose jobs require a lot of in-person contact can safely return to work.

"While the combined effects of fiscal and monetary policy have aided the solid recovery of the labor market so far, there is still a long way to go," the Fed chairman said.

"The right thing to do and the smart thing to do is to continue to support those people as they return to their old jobs or find new jobs in different sectors of the economy," Powell added.

Unemployment, which peaked at 14.7% in April, fell to 7.9% last month. But Powell cautioned the jobless rate would be closer to 11% were it not for misclassification of idle workers and for people leaving the workforce.

Powell noted that job losses in the service sector have fallen particularly hard on women and minorities. And women with children are disproportionately affected by the demands of home schooling.

As the new school year began last month, four times as many women dropped out of the workforce as men.

"The longer it goes on, the more likely there is some lasting damage," Powell said. "For many people, and it's a lot of women, it's winding up being in the home with young children who really should be in school and you would much prefer to be working. So it's a real issue."
13407046, He's on mind altering steroids and already insecure.
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 08:14 PM
13407062, someone advised him to walk that back...
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Oct-07-20 05:31 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313664886648582144?s=20
13406942, are there still people who are sitting this election out?
Posted by makaveli, Tue Oct-06-20 02:16 PM
This dude is openly killing people.
13406947, Personally I'm praying for his health and recovery of him and his wife.
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 02:26 PM
13406956, Smh... yes, and unfortunately there are a lot men
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-06-20 02:53 PM
Black men...

Who feel this way.

I low key think some of these dudes like Trumps WWE style.
13407016, <--- Right here
Posted by Kira, Tue Oct-06-20 06:32 PM
I'm not voting for Jim Crow and pandering symbolic gestures Indian, asian, and Jamaican Kamala Harris. It's not my job to save the country from Trump. Go brow beat white men, women, and members of your community not us.

If he gets elected again it's not my fault. The Dems can get my vote IF they provide comprehensive resources solely for my community the same way Biden plans to for Indian and LGBTQIA communities. Criminal reform is not a benefit but an insult. Until then we all suffering together.
13407019, ^^Crab
Posted by handle, Tue Oct-06-20 06:33 PM
Meet bucket
13407023, fake woke deep olympics up in here
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Oct-06-20 06:39 PM
13407039, LOL
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 07:50 PM
13407061, lol
Posted by Pete Burns, Wed Oct-07-20 04:58 AM
13407043, https://joebiden.com/blackamerica/ (LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA)
Posted by MEAT, Tue Oct-06-20 08:11 PM
https://joebiden.com/blackamerica/ (LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA)

We'll be seeing you at the polls right?




LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA

Joe Biden knows that African Americans can never have a fair shot at the American Dream so long as entrenched disparities are allowed to quietly chip away at opportunity. He is running for President to rebuild our economy in a way that finally brings everyone along—and that starts by rooting out systemic racism from our laws, our policies, our institutions, and our hearts.

This mission is more important now than ever before, as the health and economic impacts of COVID-19 have shined a light on—and cruelly exacerbated—the disparities long faced by African Americans. In April 2020, Biden called on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to collect more data regarding how COVID-19 is affecting communities, including breaking down its impacts by race. The data we’ve seen so far suggests that African Americans are dying from COVID-19 at a higher rate than whites. Long-standing systemic inequalities are contributing to this disparity—including the fact that African Americans are more likely to be uninsured and to live in communities where they are exposed to high levels of air pollution. African Americans also represent an especially high percentage of the front-line workers putting themselves at greater risk to sustain the economy and keep the rest of the country safe and fed—and are less likely to have a job they can do from home, forcing them to make the difficult choice between their health and a paycheck. While there’s a lot we don’t yet know about COVID-19, we do know that equitable distribution of resources, like testing and medical equipment, can make a difference in fighting the virus. Biden believes this should be a priority and action must be taken now.

COVID-19 is also having a disproportionate economic impact on African American families. African American small businesses have been hit hard, and over 90% of African American-owned businesses are estimated to be shut out of the initial relief program due to preexisting, systemic disparities in lending. This is especially dire given that African American families have less of a financial cushion to fall back on in hard times. Biden has been calling for the nation’s relief and recovery efforts to be equitable and just, including by designing relief programs in ways that avoid methods we know lead to disparate outcomes—so that funds can actually reach African American families, communities, and small businesses. President Trump has not heeded his warnings. If Biden were President today, he would make it a top priority to ensure that African American workers, families, and small businesses got the relief they need and deserve.

Tackling systemic racism and fighting for civil rights has been a driving force throughout Biden’s career in public service. He has a record of fighting for and delivering for the African American community. As a U.S. Senator he co-sponsored the Civil Rights Act of 1990 to protect against employment discrimination and led multiple reauthorizations of the Voting Rights Act, protecting African Americans’ right to vote. Biden also led efforts to reauthorize and extend the Fair Housing Act, and as Delaware’s Senator, was a vocal advocate and supporter of Delaware State University, the state’s Historically Black University.

Today, we need a comprehensive agenda for African Americans with ambition that matches the scale of the challenge and with recognition that race-neutral policies are not a sufficient response to race-based disparities.

The Biden Plan for Black America will:

Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.
Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system.
Make far-reaching investments in ending health disparities by race.
Strengthen America’s commitment to justice.
Make the right to vote and the right to equal protection real for African Americans.
Address environmental justice.

ADVANCE THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND CLOSE THE RACIAL WEALTH AND INCOME GAPS

Invest in African American Businesses and Entrepreneurs

Approximately 4% of small business owners are African American, even though African Americans make up approximately 13% of the population. To build wealth in African American communities, we must invest in the success of African American businesses and entrepreneurs.

Ensuring equal access to credit and capital. African American businesses often lack the capital they need to succeed. African American businesses are rejected at a rate nearly 20% higher than the white-owned firms. Even worse, African American businesses that do get funding receive only 40% of the funds requested as compared to 70% for white businesses. To increase investment and access to capital, Biden will:

Double funding for the State Small Business Credit Initiative. The Obama-Biden Administration created the State Small Business Credit Initiative (SSBCI) to support small businesses, driving $10 billion in new lending for each $1 billion in SSBCI funds. Biden will extend the program through 2025 and double its federal funding to $3 billion, driving close to $30 billion of private sector investments to small businesses all told, especially those owned by women and people of color.
Expand the New Markets Tax Credit, make the program permanent, and double Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) funding. The New Markets Tax Credit has helped draw tens of billions of dollars in new capital to low-income communities, providing tax credits to investors in community development organizations that support everything from supermarkets to real estate projects to manufacturing plants. As part of his plan to reinvest in communities across the country, including in rural areas, Biden will also double funding for the Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) Fund, which supports local, mission-driven financial institutions in low-income areas around the U.S. This builds on Biden’s proposal to support entrepreneurs in small towns and rural areas by expanding both the Rural Microentrepreneur Assistance Program and the number of Rural Business Investment Companies, to help rural businesses attract capital.
Improve and expand the Small Business Administration programs that most effectively support African American-owned businesses. The Small Business Administration’s (SBA) programs have been and remain one of the most effective ways of accessing capital for African American-owned businesses. Biden will strengthen these existing programs by:
Ensuring the SBA has the funding it needs to support African American-owned business and others in the current crisis and beyond. Trump has once again proposed a massive cut of 25% in the SBA budget for FY2021, including a 35% cut in funding to Small Business Development Centers, a 20% cut to the SBA Microloan Program, and significantly increased fees for the 7(a) loan program, which is SBA’s main loan program for small businesses.
Making permanent the successful Community Advantage loan program, originally created during the Obama-Biden Administration. The program, which provides capital for startups and growing small businesses located in particularly underserved communities through CDFIs and other mission-driven lenders, has been run as a pilot program since 2011. Biden will make this program permanent and reverse rules enacted by the Trump Administration that are making it more difficult for lenders to participate in the program and lend to African American-owned businesses and other businesses located in underserved communities.

Increase opportunities for African American-owned businesses to obtain or participate in federal contracts. In the aftermath of the 2008-2009 financial crisis, well over $100 billion of federal prime contracting dollars were awarded to minority-owned small businesses. And, between 2013 and 2016, the Obama-Biden Administration increased federal prime contract dollars going to Small Disadvantaged Businesses by nearly 30%, from $30.6 billion to $39.1 billion. The Obama-Biden Administration also created an Interagency Task Force on Federal Contracting Opportunities for Small Businesses, which included a focus on contracting opportunities for minority-owned businesses. The Obama-Biden Administration implemented its vision of more equitable access to federal contracts through a variety of channels, including by launching the Federal Procurement Center (FPC) as part of the Commerce Department’s Minority Business Development Agency (MBDA). The FPC, a first-of-its-kind program, helps minority-owned firms apply for and win federal government contracts. As President, Biden will build on these efforts to support the expansion of opportunities for minority-owned small businesses.

Increase funding for the Minority Business Development Agency budget. MBDA plays a critical role in supporting the development and growth of minority-owned businesses around the country, as well as providing needed assistance to federal and state agencies so that they award minority-owned businesses procurement contracts. The Trump Administration has pushed for a 75% cut in MBDA’s budget. Biden would protect and call for increased funding for it.

Protect small and disadvantaged businesses from federal and state contract bundling which often locks out African American-owned smaller firms from effectively bidding on procurement contracts. Biden will build on the anti-bundling provisions of the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010, by having the Office of Management and Budget, SBA, and MBDA conduct a government-wide review of existing contract bundling to determine whether agencies are following existing rules and whether agencies have the ability to further ensure small business participation in federal and state procurement opportunities.

Make sure economic relief because of COVID-19 reaches the African American businesses that need it most. The first installment of the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) largely left out minority-owned businesses. The Center for Responsible Lending estimates that more than 90% of small businesses owned by people of color will not receive loans. The program is not taking into account the specific challenges that African American businesses face in accessing funding and complying with the program’s requirements. The financial institutions best positioned to help African American small businesses don’t have the systems to quickly deploy the funding in a first-come first-served approach. The second phase set aside $60 billion for community banks and CDFIs, as well as mid-sized banks, which can better serve smaller businesses and minority-owned firms. This is a good start, but more needs to be done:

Provide AfricanAmerican entrepreneurs and other small business owners technical assistance to help them apply for funding, as well as legal and accounting support to ensure their documentation (such as their financial records, tax filings, and other legal documents) is all in correct order. The Trump Administration and Congress should provide an additional infusion of operating capital to these CDFIs and community-focused lenders to ensure all African American entrepreneurs have access to the technical assistance and support they need.
Reserve half of all the new PPP funds for small businesses with 50 employees or less, so the bigger and more well-connected aren’t able to win in a first-come, first-served race. While this will help the vast majority of small businesses, it should also help target more funding to minority-owned businesses, given 98% of all minority-and women-owned businesses have fewer than 50 employees.
Produce a weekly dashboard to show which small businesses are accessing loans. Such a dashboard would help drive better data collection on the beneficiaries of small business support related to the COVID-19 epidemic, including in particular collecting data by gender and race, in order to ensure that the program isn’t leaving out communities, minority- and women-owned businesses, or the smallest businesses.

SUPPORTING AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCHES DURING THE COVID-19 CRISIS
Shelter-in-place orders, while critical to protecting the health of parishioners, have hit churches hard as collection revenue has virtually stopped. African American churches are especially at-risk during the downturn. One survey put the typical African American membership at just 75 congregants, while others have noted that annual revenue is down since much of it is typically collected during Easter season. At a time when many Americans will seek spiritual assistance and social support, we must ensure the preservation of religious institutions. The decision by Congress to include non-profits, including religious institutions, in the Paycheck Protection Program and Emergency Injury Disaster Loan programs was a critical first step. But the support has not flowed to these institutions the way it should. Well-connected companies were first in line for the support funding.Biden’s True Small Business Fund would also apply to non-profit groups like African American churches.

Expand African American Homeownership and Access to Affordable, Safe Housing

The gap between African American and white homeownership is larger today than when the Fair Housing Act was passed in 1968. This has contributed to a jaw-dropping racial wealth gap—nearly 1,000%—between median white and African American households. Because home ownership is how most families save and build wealth, the disparity in home ownership is a central driver of the racial wealth gap. As President, Biden will invest $640 billion over 10 years so every American has access to housing that is affordable, stable, safe and healthy, accessible, energy efficient and resilient, and located near good schools and with a reasonable commute to their jobs. Biden will:

Help families buy their first homes and build wealth by creating a new refundable, advanceable tax credit of up to $15,000. Building off of a temporary tax credit expanded as part of the Recovery Act, this tax credit will be permanent and advanceable, meaning that homebuyers receive the tax credit when they make the purchase instead of waiting to receive the assistance when they file taxes the following year.

Tackle racial bias that leads to homes in communities of color being assessed by appraisers below their fair value. Housing in communities primarily comprised of people of color is valued at tens of thousands of dollars below majority-white communities even when all other factors are the same, contributing to the racial wealth gap. To counteract this racial bias, Biden will establish a national standard for housing appraisals that ensures appraisers have adequate training and a full appreciation for neighborhoods and do not hold implicit biases because of a lack of community understanding.

Roll back Trump Administration policies gutting fair lending and fair housing protections, strongly enforce fair credit reporting laws, and create a new Public Credit Reporting Agency. Being able to obtain a credit report is a critical step for homeownership. Biden has long been an advocate for eliminating discrimination in the provision of credit, including his legislation amending the Equal Credit Opportunity Act which prohibited creditors from discriminating against consumer applicants for credit. Today’s credit reports, which are issued by just three large private companies, are rife with problems: they often contain errors, they leave many “credit invisible” due to the sources used to generate a credit score, and they contribute to racial disparities, widening the African American homeownership gap, Biden will create a new public credit reporting agency within the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to provide consumers with a government option that seeks to minimize racial disparities, for example by ensuring the algorithms used for credit scoring don’t have a discriminatory impact, and by accepting non-traditional sources of data like rental history and utility bills to establish credit.

Protect homeowners and renters from abusive lenders and landlords through a new Homeowner and Renter Bill of Rights. This new Bill of Rights will prevent mortgage brokers from leading borrowers into loans that cost more than appropriate, prevent mortgage servicers from advancing a foreclosure when the homeowner is in the process of receiving a loan modification, give homeowners a private right of action to seek financial redress from mortgage lenders and servicers that violate these protections, and give borrowers the right to a timely notification on the status of their loan modifications and to be able to appeal modification denials.

Roll back Trump Administration policies gutting fair lending and fair housing protections for homeowners.

Give local elected officials the tools and resources they need to combat gentrification. Biden will implement the Obama-Biden Administration’s Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing Rule requiring communities receiving certain federal funding to proactively examine housing patterns and identify and address policies that have a discriminatory effect. The Trump Administration suspended this rule in 2018. Biden will ensure effective and rigorous enforcement of the Fair Housing Act and the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act. And, he will reinstate the federal risk-sharing program which has helped secure financing for thousands of affordable rental housing units in partnership with housing finance agencies.
Hold financial institutions accountable for discriminatory practices in the housing market. In 2013, the Obama-Biden Administration codified a long-standing, court-supported view that lending practices that have a discriminatory effect can be challenged even if discrimination was not explicit. But now the Trump Administration is seeking to gut this disparate impact standard by significantly increasing the burden of proof for those claiming discrimination. In the Biden Administration, this change will be reversed to ensure financial institutions are held accountable for serving all customers.
Restore the federal government’s power to enforce settlements against discriminatory lenders. The Trump Administration has stripped the Office of Fair Lending and Equal Opportunity, a division of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, of its power to enforce settlements against lenders found to have discriminated against borrowers – for example by charging significantly higher interest rates for people of color than white individuals. Biden will return power to the division so it can protect consumers from discrimination.

Strengthen and expand the Community Reinvestment Act to ensure that our nation’s bank and non-bank financial services institutions are serving all communities. The Community Reinvestment Act currently regulates banks, but does little to ensure that “fintechs” and non-bank lenders are providing responsible access to all members of the community. On top of that gap, the Trump Administration is proposing to weaken the law by allowing lenders to receive a passing rating even if the lenders are excluding many neighborhoods and borrowers. Biden will expand the Community Reinvestment Act to apply to mortgage and insurance companies, to add a requirement for financial services institutions to provide a statement outlining their commitment to the public interest, and, importantly, to close loopholes that would allow these institutions to avoid lending and investing in all of the communities they serve.

Eliminate local and state housing regulations that perpetuate discrimination. Exclusionary zoning has for decades been strategically used to keep people of color and low-income families out of certain communities. As President, Biden will enact legislation requiring any state receiving federal dollars through the Community Development Block Grants or Surface Transportation Block Grants to develop a strategy for inclusionary zoning, as proposed in the HOME Act of 2019 by Majority Whip Clyburn and Senator Cory Booker. Biden will also invest $300 million in Local Housing Policy Grants to give states and localities the technical assistance and planning support they need to eliminate exclusionary zoning policies and other local regulations that contribute to sprawl.

Increase access to affordable housing. Biden will invest in expanding the supply of affordable housing by:

Establishing a $100 billion Affordable Housing Fund to construct and upgrade affordable housing. He will ensure funding supports community development efforts, expanding the HOME program and the Capital Magnet Fund, which spurs private investment in affordable housing and economic development in distressed communities.
Providing tax incentives for the construction of more affordable housing in communities that need it most. As President, Biden will expand the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit – a tax provision designed to incentivize the construction or rehabilitation of affordable housing for low-income tenants that has created nearly 3 million affordable housing units since the mid-1980s – with a $10 billion investment. Biden will also invest in the development and rehabilitation of single family homes across distressed urban, suburban, and rural neighborhoods through the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act.

Protect homeowners during the COVID-19 crisis. Biden has previously called for a rent freeze for qualifying individuals for the duration of the crisis, and a halt to foreclosures and evictions as people get back on their feet. Some banks are raising mortgage borrowing standards and requiring significantly higher down payments. Biden would also restrict the big banks’ ability to abandon the African American community by withdrawing from housing markets for all but the best-off buyers.

Read Joe Biden’s full housing plan at joebiden.com/housing.

Promote More Equitable Wealth Building and a More Secure Retirement

The typical white family holds approximately ten times the wealth as the typical African Americans family—a disparity that dramatically increased over the past half century. Today, the typical wealth of a white family is $171,000, compared to just $17,600 for the typical African American family. This inequity means that many African American families have insufficient wealth to enjoy a secure retirement. In fact, in 2016, the average African American family had just $25,000 saved for retirement—due in part to a retirement saving system that affords limited incentives for middle-class African American families to save for retirement. To make the U.S. retirement system more secure and equitable, Biden will:

Equalize the tax benefits of defined contribution plans. The current tax benefits for retirement savings are based on the concept of deferral, whereby savers get to exclude their retirement contributions from tax, see their savings grow tax free, and then pay taxes when they withdraw money from their account. This system provides upper-income families with a much stronger tax break for saving and a limited benefit for middle-class and other workers with lower earnings.

The Biden Plan will equalize benefits across the income scale, so that low- and middle-income workers will also get a tax break when they put money away for retirement.

Remove penalties for caregivers who want to save for retirement. African Americans are more likely to be caregivers than whites. They also bear disproportionate caregiving responsibilities relative to white caregivers. Biden will support informal caregivers by allowing them to make “catch-up” contributions to retirement accounts, even if they’re not earning income in the formal labor market, as has been proposed in bipartisan legislation by Representatives Jackie Walorski and Harley Rouda.

Give small businesses a tax break for starting a retirement plan and giving workers the chance to save at work. Half of African American workers lack access to a retirement saving plan at work. Biden calls for widespread adoption of workplace savings plans and offers tax credits to small businesses to offset much of the costs. Under Biden’s plan, almost all workers without a pension or 401(k)-type plan will have access to an “automatic 401(k),” which provides the opportunity to easily save for retirement at work—putting millions of middle-class families in the path to a secure retirement.

Make Social Security benefits more generous and equitable. Older African Americans disproportionately depend on Social Security benefits for retirement income. To bolster retirement security for older African Americans who have spent a lifetime working, the Biden Social Security reform plan will raise benefits for vulnerable beneficiaries—including widows and widowers, low-wage workers, and long duration beneficiaries who may have exhausted all other assets. In addition, Biden proposes to boost average benefits across the board while putting Social Security on a long-term path to solvency by raising payroll taxes for workers with more than $400,000 in earnings.

Invest in Communities that Need it Most

Fully implement Congressman Clyburn’s 10-20-30 Plan to help all individuals living in persistently impoverished communities. To tackle persistent poverty in all communities, in both urban and rural America, Vice President Biden supports applying Congressman James Clyburn’s 10-20-30 formula to all federal programs, targeting funds to census tracts with persistent poverty.

Create a White House “StrikeForce” to partner with rural communities to help them access federal funds. The Biden Administration will create a White House StrikeForce consisting of agency leaders who will partner with community-building organizations in persistent poverty rural communities and help them unlock federal resources. This approach is modeled on the StrikeForce Secretary Tom Vilsack successfully established in the U.S. Department of Agriculture during the Obama-Biden Administration.

Drive additional capital into low-income communities to spur the development of low-income housing. The New Markets Tax Credit draws in $8 of private investment for every $1 of federal investment in low-income communities by providing tax credits to investors in community development organizations that support everything from supermarkets to real estate projects to manufacturing plants. Biden will expand the program to provide $5 billion in support every year, and will make the program permanent so communities can take the credit into account in their long-term planning.

Build and modernize infrastructure in communities that need it most. Biden has offered a transformational $1.3 trillion plan to create millions of good-paying, union jobs—roads, ports, waterways, schools, broadband, schools, and more. His plan includes specific measures to close the resource gap in communities of color. Biden will:

Invest in historically marginalized communities and bring everyone to the table for transportation planning. Biden will create a new Community Restoration Fund, specifically for neighborhoods where historic transportation investments cut people off from jobs, schools, and businesses. And, he will work to make sure towns and cities directly receive a portion of existing federal transportation investments.
Bring broadband to every American household. As President, Biden will close the digital divide. First, he will invest $20 billion in rural broadband infrastructure. He will triple funding to expand broadband access in rural areas, and ensure that the work of installing broadband provides high-paying jobs with benefits. He will encourage competition among providers, to increase speeds and decrease prices in urban, suburban, and rural areas. Biden will also work with the FCC to reform its Lifeline program, increasing the number of participating broadband providers, reducing fraud and abuse, and ultimately offering more low-income Americans the subsidies needed to access high-speed internet. Finally, Biden will work with Congress to pass the Digital Equity Act, to help communities tackle the digital divide.

Read Joe Biden’s full plan to invest in infrastructure and our communities at joebiden.com/infrastructure, and his full plan for older Americans at joebiden.com/older-Americans.

Support African American Workers

Biden is proposing a plan to grow a stronger, more inclusive middle class—the backbone of the American economy—by strengthening public and private sector unions and helping all workers bargain successfully for what they deserve. Biden knows that African Americans face unique challenges as workers. Biden will support these workers by:

Fight for equal pay. African American women earned 61 cents for every dollar earned by white men in 2017. This totals $23,653 less in earnings in a year and $946,120 less in a lifetime. The Obama-Biden Administration protected more workers against retaliation for discussing wages and required employers to collect and report wage gaps to the federal government. As President, Biden will codify this into law, and he’ll make it easier for workers to join together in class action lawsuits, shift the burden to employers to prove pay gaps exist for job-related reasons, and increase penalties against companies that discriminate, as called for in the Paycheck Fairness Act. And, he’ll hold companies accountable by increasing funding for investigators and enforcement actions.

Ensure federally funded projects protect workers. Biden will propose infrastructure legislation that incorporates labor provisions contained in Senator Merkley’s Good Jobs for 21st Century Energy Act, adopting all basic labor protections, ensuring that all investments meet Davis-Bacon wage guidelines, and banning anti-worker provisions like forced arbitration and the overuse of temporary staffing agencies. He will require federally funded projects to employ workers trained in registered apprenticeship programs, and to prioritize Project Labor and Community Workforce Agreements in federal procurement procedures. His proposal will make sure that national infrastructure investments create millions of middle-class jobs, benefiting union and non-union workers across industries. Read Joe Biden’s full plan to encourage unions and collective bargaining at joebiden.com/empowerworkers.

Encourage diverse hiring and promotion practices. To push companies to look hard at their hiring practices and root out discrimination, Biden will require companies to make public their overall workforce diversity and senior-level diversity. He will support employers in increasing diverse hiring and promotion by providing federal grants to states, cities, and organizations to develop and implement evidence-based practices and innovative solutions, such as ban the box legislation, to push employers to hire and retain diverse employees and end discriminatory hiring policies. And, he will hold companies accountable by increasing funding for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the U.S. Labor Department’s Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP), and the U.S. Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division to increase the number of investigators.

Restore the federal government’s role in setting the bar for other employers to advance opportunities for all workers. Biden will restore and build on the Obama-Biden Administration’s Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces executive order, which Trump revoked, requiring employers’ compliance with labor and employment laws be taken into account in determining whether they are sufficiently responsible to be entrusted with federal contracts. And, he will mandate that contractors publicly disclose plans to recruit and advance people of color, women, people with disabilities, and covered veterans and will increase enforcement efforts, including pursuing debarment where contractors refuse to end discriminatory practices.

Protect essential workers in the COVID-19 crisis. A report published in April found that “Black Americans are overrepresented in nine of the ten lowest-paid, high-contact essential services, which elevates their risk of contracting the virus.” Joe Biden has released a plan to protect these essential workers, and give them the respect, dignity, and pay they deserve. If he were President, he would:

Ensure all frontline workers, like grocery store employees, qualify for priority access to personnel protective equipment (PPE) and COVID-19 testing based upon their risk of exposure to the virus, as well as child care assistance, and other forms of emergency COVID-19 support.
Expand access to effective personal protective equipment, including through use of the Defense Production Act.
Establish and enforce health and safety standards for workplaces.
Enact premium pay for frontline workers putting themselves at risk. There is no substitute for ensuring worker safety, but all frontline workers putting their lives on the line should receive premium pay for their work. This premium pay should be in addition to paid sick leave and care-giving leave for every worker, which Biden called for in his plan, and $15 minimum wage for all workers.

Turn unemployment insurance into employment insurance. African American workers are more likely to work in jobs subject to reduced hours, furloughs, and layoffs during the pandemic. Biden would transform unemployment insurance into employment insurance for millions of workers by getting states to adopt and dramatically scale up short-time compensation programs. Under short-time compensation—also known as work sharing—firms in distress keep workers employed but at reduced hours and the federal government helps make up the difference in wages. The Obama-Biden administration championed this approach in the U.S., and so far more than half of states have established short-time compensation programs. For the current crisis, the administration should move rapidly to scale up short-time compensation in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands to save or restore millions of jobs.

EXPAND ACCESS TO HIGH-QUALITY EDUCATION AND TACKLE RACIAL INEQUITY IN OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM

As President, Biden will ensure that no child’s future is determined by their zip code, parents’ income, race, or disability. Biden will build an education system that starts with investing in our children at birth and helps every student get some education beyond a high school diploma, whether a certification, associate’s degree, or bachelor’s degree. Biden will:

Provide high-quality, universal pre-kindergarten for all three- and four-year-olds. For families with young children, finding highly quality pre-K is a major financial, logistical, and emotional burden, with potentially lifelong consequences for their children. As President, Biden will work with states to offer pre-K for all three- and four-year-olds.

Eliminate the funding gap between white and non-white districts, and rich and poor districts in order to give teachers a raise and expand STEM curriculum in underserved school districts. There’s an estimated $23 billion annual funding gap between white and non-white school districts today. Biden will work to close this gap by nearly tripling Title I funding, the federal program funding schools with a high percentage of students from low-income families. This new funding will first be used to ensure teachers at Title I schools are paid competitively, three- and four-year olds have access to pre-school, and districts provide access to rigorous coursework—including computer science and other STEM subjects—across all their schools, not just a few.

Improve teacher diversity. For African American students, having just one African American teacher in elementary school reduces the probability of dropping out. Biden will support more innovative approaches to recruiting teachers of color, including supporting high school students in accessing dual-enrollment classes that give them an edge in teacher preparation programs, helping paraprofessionals work towards their teaching certificate, and working with Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions to recruit and prepare teachers.

Reinstate the Obama-Biden Administration’s actions to diversify our schools. As President, Biden will reinstate the Department of Education guidance that supported schools in legally pursuing desegregation strategies and recognized institutions of higher education’s interests in creating diverse student bodies. And, he will provide grants to school districts to create plans and implement strategies to diversify their schools.

Ensure that African American students are not inappropriately identified as having disabilities, while also ensuring that African American students with disabilities have the support to succeed. African American students are 40% more likely to be identified as having any disability, and twice as likely to be identified as having certain disabilities, such as emotional disturbance and intellectual disabilities. The Obama-Biden Administration issued regulations to address racial disparities in special education programs, including disproportionate identification. The Trump Administration attempted to illegally delay the Obama-Biden Administration’s regulation. Biden will fully implement this regulation and provide educators the resources that they need to provide students with disabilities a high-quality education by fully funding the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA).

Address the African American student debt crisis. The student debt burden has a disproportionate impact on African Americans. The typical bachelor’s degree graduate has about $16,000 in debt compared to $23,400 for African Americans students. According to a recent Brookings Institution study, African Americans graduating with a four year degree are 5 times more likely to default on their student loans than white graduates. African American students are three times more likely to default on their student loans than white student borrowers. The inequitable burden of student loan debt contributes to the stark racial wealth gap that exists in society. Biden’s plans to address student loan debt will alleviate student debt burdens by:

Including in the COVID-19 response an immediate cancellation of a minimum of $10,000 of federal student loan debt.
Forgiving all undergraduate tuition-related federal student debt from two- and four-year public colleges for debt-holders earning up to $125,000. This will also apply to individuals holding federal student loans for tuition from private HBCUs and MSIs.
Forgiving loan payments for individuals making $25,000 or less per year and capping loan payments at 5% of discretionary income for those making more.
Fixing the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program and forgiving $10,000 of undergraduate or graduate student debt for every year of national or community service, up to five years.
Cracking down on private lenders profiteering off of students by empowering the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to take action against private lenders who are misleading students about their options and do not provide an affordable payment plan when individuals are experiencing acute periods of financial hardship.
Permitting the discharge of student loans in bankruptcy.

Increase college completion by making college affordable for African American students. Our postsecondary education system has not done enough to help African American students access, afford, and succeed in high-quality postsecondary education. 64% of white students graduate from four year institutions, compared to only 40% of African Americans. To help African American students access and complete college, Biden will:

Make public colleges and universities tuition-free for all students whose family incomes are below $125,000, including students at public HBCUs.
Providing two years of community college or other high-quality training programs without debt for any hard-working individual looking to learn and improve their skills to keep up with the changing nature of work. This commitment includes two-year public HBCUs. Individuals will also be able to use these funds to pursue training programs that have a track record of participants completing their programs and securing good jobs, including adults who never had the chance to pursue additional education beyond high school or who need to learn new skills.
Targeting additional financial support to low-income and middle-class individuals by doubling the maximum value of Pell grants, significantly increasing the number of middle-class Americans who can participate in the program. According to the Department of Education, almost 60% of African American undergraduates received a Pell grant during the 2015-2016 academic year. Biden also will restore formerly incarcerated individuals’ eligibility for Pell.

Invest over $70 billion in the Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions that will train our next generation of African American professionals. Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) are key to educating our next generations of African American leaders. They enroll about 10% of African American students, while accounting for more than 20% of African American bachelor’s degrees awarded. 40% of African American engineers and 80% of African American judges are HBCU graduates. But these institutions do not receive the investment that reflects their importance. The Thurgood Marshall College Fund estimates that the typical HBCU endowment is one-eighth the average size of historically white colleges. As President, Biden will take steps to rectify the funding disparities faced by HBCUs so that the United States can benefit from their unique strengths. Biden will:

Make HBCUs more affordable for their students. Biden will invest $18 billion in grants to four-year HBCUs and Minority-Serving Institutions (MSIs), equivalent to up to two years of tuition per low-income and middle class student. He will invest additional funds in private, non-profit HBCUs and under-resourced MSIs so they are not undermined by the Biden proposal to make four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free for students. Schools must invest in lowering costs, improving retention and graduation rates, and closing equity gaps year over year for students of color.
Reduce disparities in funding for HBCUs and MSIs.
Invest $10 billion to create at least 200 new centers of excellence that serve as research incubators and connect students underrepresented in fields critical to our nation’s future – including fields tackling climate change, globalization, inequality, health disparities, and cancer – to learning and career opportunities.
Build the high tech labs and facilities and digital infrastructure needed for learning, research, and innovation at HBCUs and MSIs.
Invest $5 billion in graduate programs in teaching, health care, and STEM and will develop robust internship and career pipelines at major research agencies.

Create a “Title I for postsecondary education” to help students at under-resourced four-year schools complete their degrees. The Biden Administration will establish a new grant program to support under-resourced four-year schools that serve large numbers of Pell-eligible students. The funds will be used to foster collaboration between colleges and community-based organizations to provide wraparound support services for students, including additional financial aid to cover textbook and transportation costs that often keep students from staying enrolled, to child care and mental health services, faculty mentoring, tutoring, and peer support groups.

Make a $50 billion investment in workforce training, including community-college business partnerships and apprenticeships. These funds will create and support partnerships between community colleges, businesses, unions, state, local, and tribal governments, universities, and high schools to identify in-demand knowledge and skills in a community and develop or modernize training programs – which could be as short as a few months or as long as two years – that lead to a relevant, high-demand industry-recognized credential.

Read Joe Biden’s full education plans at joebiden.com/education and joebiden.com/beyondHS.

MAKE FAR-REACHING INVESTMENTS IN ENDING HEALTH DISPARITIES BY RACE

The COVID-19 pandemic has highlighted the long-standing, pervasive disparities that exist across our health care system due to unequal access to treatment. An early analysis indicates that counties with majority-African American populations have coronavirus infection rates three times higher than counties with majority white residents, with death rates nearly six times higher. Although COVID-19 can hit anyone anywhere, it does not affect every community the same. African Americans are more likely to be uninsured and report higher rates of chronic health problems, and these factors increase their chances of becoming seriously ill and dying from this disease. This is unconscionable. Biden calls on Congress to immediately enact Senator Kamala Harris’ bill to create a task force to address the racial disparities that have been laid bare by this pandemic. As President, he will do everything in his power to eliminate health care disparities.

Ensuring access to health care during this crisis. In the short-term, Biden’s COVID-19 response plan calls on the Trump Administration to drop its support of a lawsuit to overturn Obamacare. Millions of Americans may lose their health insurance because they lose their job, and millions more may find health care increasingly difficult to afford. During this crisis, Biden would expand access to quality, affordable health care for all through:

Creating a public option;
Providing full payment of premiums for COBRA plans;
Increasing Affordable Care Act subsidies;
Reopening Obamacare enrollment so uninsured individuals can get insured;
Increasing federal investments in Medicaid;
Ensuring that every person, whether insured or uninsured, will not have to pay a dollar out-of-pocket for visits related to COVID-19 testing, treatment, preventative services, and any eventual vaccine. No co-payments, no deductibles, and no surprise medical billing.

Ensure access to affordable, high-quality health care beyond the crisis. Because of Obamacare, over 100 million people no longer have to worry that an insurance company will deny coverage or charge higher premiums just because they have a pre-existing condition – whether cancer or diabetes or heart disease or a mental health challenge. Insurance companies can no longer set annual or lifetime limits on coverage. Roughly 20 million additional Americans obtained the peace of mind that comes with health insurance. Young people who are in transition from school to a job have the option to stay covered by their parents’ plan until age 26. As President, Joe Biden will build on Obamacare. He will help address racial disparities in the health care system in the following ways:

Reducing the uninsured rate for African Americans by creating a public option health plan. Nationally, 11% of nonelderly African Americans are uninsured, compared to 8% of white people. This disparity is far greater in states with Republican governors who have not expanded Medicaid. Biden will give all Americans a new choice, a public health insurance option like Medicare. And he will ensure the individuals who would be eligible for Medicaid but for their state’s inaction are automatically enrolled on to the public option, at no cost to the individual.
Improving care for patients with chronic conditions, by coordinating among all of a patient’s doctors. This is particularly important for patients with chronic conditions, such as diabetes and hypertension, which disproportionately impact African Americans.
Lowering costs for African Americans enrolled in Obamacare plans by increasing the value of tax credits to lower premium and lowering deductibles by making other changes to how the tax credits are calculated.
Lowering drug prices, by allowing Medicare to negotiate with drug prices and stopping drug companies from price gouging on new drugs.
Reducing our unacceptably high African American maternal mortality rate. African American women are 2.5 times more likely to die from pregnancy complications than non-Hispanic white women. California came up with a strategy that halved the state’s maternal death rate. The Biden plan takes the California strategy nationwide.
Expanding access to reproductive health care, including contraception and protecting the constitutional right to choose. Biden supports repealing the Hyde Amendment. He will also restore funding for Planned Parenthood, which provides services necessary to address health disparities, including breast cancer screenings and HIV/AIDS counseling, screening, and treatment. The breast cancer death rate is over 40% higher for African Americans than white women, and in 2016, African American women comprised 60% of new HIV cases.
Doubling the nation’s investment in community health centers. Community health centers provide primary, prenatal, and other important care, and their patients are disproportionately members of racial and ethnic minority groups, including African Americans.
Expanding access to mental health care. African Americans are far less likely to receive mental health services or compared to white adults. Biden will ensure mental health parity and eliminating the stigma around mental health are critical to closing this gap.
Tackling social determinants of health. Because racial health disparities are the result of years of systemic inequality not only in our health care system, but across our economy, other parts of Joe Biden’s agenda are also necessary to improve the overall well-being of African Americans. For example, African Americans are more likely to face exposure to air pollutants that cause respiratory illnesses that make them particularly vulnerable to COVID-19.

Invest in the diverse talent at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) and Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs) to solve the country’s most pressing problems, including health disparities. As part of Biden’s more than $70 billion investment in HBCUs and MSIs, he will invest $10 billion to create at least 200 new centers of excellence that serve as research incubators and connect students underrepresented in fields critical to our nation’s future to learning and career opportunities. He will develop robust internship and career pipelines at major research agencies, including National Institutes of Health. He will also dedicate additional and increased priority funding streams at federal agencies for grants and contracts for HBCUs and MSIs. And, he will require any federal research grants to universities with an endowment of over $1 billion to form a meaningful partnership and enter into a 10% minimum subcontract with an HBCU, TCU, or MSI.

Build a diverse pipeline of health care professionals by investing in health care graduate programs at HBCUs and MSIs. As part of Biden’s more than $70 billion investment in HBCUs and MSis, he will invest $5 billion in graduate programs in health care, along with teaching and STEM, at HBCUs and MSIs.

Read Joe Biden’s full health care plan at joebiden.com/healthcare.

STRENGTHEN AMERICA’S COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE

Today, too many people are incarcerated in the United States – and too many of them are African American. To build safe and healthy communities, we need to rethink who we’re sending to prison, how we treat those in prison, and how we help them get the health care, education, jobs, and housing they need to successfully rejoin society after they serve their time. As President, Biden will strengthen America’s commitment to justice and reform our criminal justice system.

The Biden Plan for Strengthening America’s Commitment to Justice is based on several core principles:

We can and must reduce the number of people incarcerated in this country while also reducing crime. Reducing the number of incarcerated individuals will reduce federal spending on incarceration. These savings should be reinvested in the communities impacted by mass incarceration.
Our criminal justice system cannot be just unless we root out the racial, gender, and income-based disparities in the system. African American mothers and fathers should feel confident that their children are safe walking the streets of America. And, when a police officer pins on that shield and walks out the door, the officer’s family should know they’ll come home at the end of the day. Additionally, women and children are uniquely impacted by the criminal justice system, and the system needs to address their unique needs.
Our criminal justice system must be focused on redemption and rehabilitation. Making sure formerly incarcerated individuals have the opportunity to be productive members of our society is not only the right thing to do, it will also grow our economy.
No one should be profiteering off of our criminal justice system.

Biden will call for the immediate passage of Congressman Bobby Scott’s SAFE Justice Act, an evidence-based, comprehensive bill to reform our criminal justice system “from front-end sentencing reform to back-end release policies.” The Biden Plan will also go further. Biden will take bold action to reduce our prison population, create a more just society, and make our communities safer. He will:

Expand and use the power of the U.S. Justice Department to address systemic misconduct in police departments and prosecutors’ offices. Using authority in legislation spearheaded by Biden as senator, the Obama-Biden Justice Department used pattern-or-practice investigations and consent decrees to address circumstances of “systemic police misconduct” and to “restore trust between police and communities” in cities such as Ferguson. Yet, the Trump Administration’s Justice Department has limited the use of this tool. Under the Biden Administration, the Justice Department will again use its authority to root out unconstitutional or unlawful policing. In addition, Biden will push for legislation to clarify that this pattern-or-practice investigation authority can also be used to address systemic misconduct by prosecutors’ offices.

Establish an independent Task Force on Prosecutorial Discretion. The Biden Administration will create a new task force, placed outside of the U.S. Department of Justice, to make recommendations for tackling discrimination and other problems in our justice system that results from arrest and charging decisions.

Reinvigorate community-oriented policing. Policing works best when officers are out of their cruisers and walking the streets, engaging with and getting to know members of their communities. But in order to do that, police departments need resources to hire a sufficient number of officers. Biden spearheaded the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program, which authorized funding both for the hiring of additional police officers and for training on how to undertake a community policing approach. However, the program has never been funded to fulfill the original vision for community policing. Biden will reinvigorate the COPS program with a $300 million investment. As a condition of the grant, hiring of police officers must mirror the racial diversity of the community they serve. Additionally, as President, Biden will establish a panel to scrutinize what equipment is used by law enforcement in our communities.

Invest in public defenders’ offices to ensure defendants’ access to quality counsel. Defenders’ resources and support are too decentralized and too hard to access. Biden will expand the Obama-Biden effort to expand resources for public defenders’ offices.

Create a $20 billion grant program to support criminal justice reform at the state and local level. Funds can be used by cities and states on measures proven to reduce crime and incarceration, and require states to eliminate mandatory minimums for non-violent crimes in order to receive funding.

Reform sentencing. Biden will work with Congress to reform federal sentencing and provide incentives to state and local systems to do the same. He will end, once and for all, the federal crack and powder cocaine disparity, decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions, and end all incarceration for drug use alone and instead divert individuals to drug courts and treatment. He will work to eliminate mandatory minimums and the death penalty.

End the criminalization of poverty. Cash bail is the modern-day debtors’ prison. Biden will lead a national effort to end cash bail and reform our pretrial system by putting in place, instead, a system that is fair and does not inject further discrimination or bias into the process. And, he will work to end the practice of jailing people for being too poor to pay fines and fees.

Stop corporations from profiteering off of incarceration. Biden will end the federal government’s use of private prisons, building off an Obama-Biden Administration’s policy rescinded by the Trump Administration. And, he will make clear that the federal government should not use private facilities for any detention, including detention of undocumented immigrants.

Eliminate existing barriers preventing formerly incarcerated individuals from fully participating in society. For example, Biden will eliminate barriers keeping formerly incarcerated individuals from accessing public assistance such as SNAP, Pell grants, and housing support. The Biden Administration will incentivize states to automatically restore voting rights for individuals convicted of felonies once they have served their sentences. He will also expand access to mental health and substance use disorder treatment, as well as educational opportunities and job training for individuals during and after incarceration.

Reform the juvenile justice system. Biden will invest $1 billion per year in juvenile justice reform. He will expand funding for after-school programs, community centers, and summer jobs to keep young people active, busy, learning, and having fun. Biden will double the number of mental health professionals in our schools so behavioral and emotional challenges can be addressed by appropriately skilled psychologists, counselors, and social workers, not our criminal justice system. And, he will restore the Obama-Biden Administration guidance to help schools address the high number of suspensions and expulsions that affect students of color at a higher rate than white students.

Make our communities safer. Biden will pursue evidence-based measures to root out persistent violent crime. Violent offenders need to be held accountable, and survivors need to have access to support to deal with the physical, psychological, and financial consequences of violence. Biden will tackle the rise in hate crimes through moral leadership that makes clear such vitriol has no place in the United States. And, in the Biden Administration, the Justice Department will prioritize prosecuting hate crimes. Additionally, Biden will address the daily acts of gun violence in our communities that may not make national headlines, but are just as devastating to survivors and victims’ families as gun violence that does make the front page. These daily acts of gun violence disproportionately impact communities of color. Biden will create a $900 million, eight-year initiative to fund evidence-based interventions in 40 cities across the country – the 20 cities with the highest number of homicides, and 20 cities with the highest number of homicides per capita. This proposal is estimated to save more than 12,000 lives over the eight-year program.

Read Joe Biden’s full criminal justice plan at joebiden.com/justice and his plan to reduce gun violence at joebiden.com/gunsafety.

MAKE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THE RIGHT TO EQUAL PROTECTION REAL FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS

President Trump has rolled back civil rights enforcement across the government and cut staff for the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. In the first two years of the Trump Administration, the Division started 60% fewer investigations than during the Obama-Biden Administration. As President, Biden will reverse the damage done by Trump and increase funding for civil rights enforcement. He will ensure that the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, the EEOC, and agency civil rights enforcement offices have the resources they need to root out and stop discrimination. He will also:

Ensure that political appointees, including the President’s Cabinet, look like the country they serve, and ensure that our federal workforce is representative of the demographics in our country. The Obama-Biden Administration made great progress in building a diverse federal workforce, but Biden knows work remains for the country to fully realize the benefits of the talents, abilities, and perspectives of a workforce that looks like the country. As President, Biden will nominate and appoint people who look like the country they serve and share Biden’s commitment to rigorous enforcement of civil rights protections. He will reissue and mandate strict compliance with the Obama-Biden executive order to promote diversity and inclusion. He will rebuild the pipeline of workers into the federal government and incentivize more qualified workers to choose public service by forgiving $10,000 a year in student debt for up to five years of public service. He’ll tap into the best and brightest talent from every source by developing career pipelines from Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority Serving Institutions into federal agencies. Biden will also provide more training and mentoring opportunities to improve retention, and collect better data about who is applying for federal service positions as well as being promoted.

Appoint U.S. Supreme Court justices and federal judges who look like America, are committed to the rule of law, understand the importance of individual civil rights and civil liberties in a democratic society, and respect foundational precedents like Brown vs. Board of Education and Roe v. Wade. Biden has also pledged to appoint the first African American woman to the U.S. Supreme Court, a move which is long overdue. We can’t have four more years of Trump appointees filling lifetime judiciary seats. Trump has already appointed 193 federal judges – including two Supreme Court justices. Only eight are African American. Seven Trump appointees were rated “not qualified” by the American Bar Association.

Ensure every vote counts. Since the Supreme Court decision in Shelby County v. Holder, an increasing number of states have passed laws with no apparent purpose besides making it more difficult to vote, especially for people of color. It’s just as un-American now as it was during Jim Crow. As President, Biden will strengthen our democracy by guaranteeing that every American’s vote is protected. He will start by passing the Voting Rights Advancement Act to update section 4 of the Voting Rights Act and develop a new process for pre-clearing election changes. He also will ensure that the Justice Department challenges state laws suppressing the right to vote. Biden supports automatic voter registration, same-day voter registration, and many more steps to make exercising one’s right to vote easier. Biden will e
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Fact Sheet: Joe and Kamala will Empower Black Men

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In 2016, President Trump asked Black Americans what they had to lose by voting for him. After four years, it’s clear: Black Americans, especially Black men, risk losing everything in Trump’s America.

We are at an inflection point. Systemic racism and racial violence, whether it is physical, economic, political, or social, relegates too many Black men to second class citizenship that risks becoming permanent depending on the outcome of this election.

President Trump does not recognize the dignity of Black Americans. He does not accept responsibility for the devastating impact that his policies and his attitude have on Black men. His inability to get the pandemic under control has left the Black community bearing the disproportionate brunt of COVID-19 infections and deaths. And his failure has led to the economic freefall that again hurts and fails Black men with record job losses and shuttered businesses.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are offering a different choice for Black Americans. They have a plan to deal with the pandemic safely and responsibly. They will build back the economy better with historic investments in Black communities that include:

Expanding Access to Affordable Health Care – Building on Obamacare to ensure access to high-quality, affordable care, including by providing Black Americans with a new public health insurance option and lowering their health care costs.
Creating Jobs for Black Men – Creating millions of good paying jobs through a historic infrastructure and clean energy investment and ensuring that new, high-paying jobs reach Black communities.
Providing Startup Capital for Small Business – Opening the door for billions in loans and startup capital for Black-owned businesses.
Reforming Criminal Justice – Creating a national standard on use of force for law enforcement, end incarceration for drug use alone, and support automated record sealing for certain non-violent crimes.
Making College Affordable – Making public colleges and university tuition free for families earning under $125,000, forgiving all undergraduate tuition-related federal student debt from public colleges and universities and private Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) for debt-holders earning up to $125,000, and investing $70 billion in HBCUs and Minority-Serving Institutions.
Increasing Black Homeownership – Offering a $15,000 down-payment tax credit for first-time home buyers and creating a new public credit reporting division in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to give consumers a government option for a credit score that seeks to minimize racial disparities.

In this election, Black men have everything to lose under Donald Trump and everything to gain under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

HIGHLIGHTS: HOW JOE AND KAMALA WILL EMPOWER BLACK MEN

Help Black Men Create Opportunity and Wealth. Joe’s plan to Build Back Better will make historic investments to advance racial equity across the American economy to close the racial wealth gap, opportunity gap, and jobs gap.

Biden-Harris will provide the Minority Business Development Agency with $5 billion in annual lending and investment authority to ensure capital flows directly to minority-owned businesses and investments in critical infrastructure, including in Black communities. Right now, the federal government gives away about $25 billion in loans, of which Black-owned businesses only get about $750 million.
Create millions of good-paying jobs for all Americans, including to revive American manufacturing and build our nation’s clean energy future and modern, sustainable infrastructure. Biden-Harris will ensure Black men are represented in those millions of jobs.
Increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour, which would give nearly 40% of Black workers a pay raise.
End President Trump and Republicans’ war on labor and make it easier for workers to unionize and collectively bargain. Black union members earn nearly 14% more and are 9 times wealthier than their non-union counterparts and are more likely to have employer-provided benefits like health care and retirement.
Help Black men buy a home by addressing racial disparities in homeownership and creating a $15,000 tax credit for buyers to purchase their first home, a key to building wealth. Right now approximately 74% of white families own their own homes compared to 44% of Black families. Joe will tackle redlining and other discrimination in housing, and create a $15,000 Down Payment Tax Credit for first-time home buyers.
Create a new public credit reporting division within the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to provide consumers with a government option that seeks to minimize racial disparities, for example by ensuring the algorithms used for credit scoring don’t have a discriminatory impact and by accepting non-traditional sources of data like rental history and utility bills to establish credit.
Set a goal that disadvantaged communities disproportionately harmed by environmental injustices, including many Black communities, receive 40% of the benefits of the Biden-Harris Administration’s infrastructure and clean energy spending.

Reduce Incarceration. Joe has a plan to reduce prison and jail populations while increasing safety at the same time, and put us on a path that begins to cure the staggering racial disparities in our criminal justice system.

Reduce the footprint of incarceration in our country’s jails and prisons through supporting bail reform, eliminating mandatory minimums, and investing at the local level in mental health and substance use disorder services.
Hold police who use excessive force against Black men accountable by creating a national standard for use of force. The Biden-Harris Administration will also reining in qualified immunity and make new investments, for example by investing in programs that partner mental health experts with police officers to respond to 911 calls.
The Biden-Harris Administration will make investments to build the infrastructure needed for states to adopt automated record sealing for criminal records for select categories of non-violent offenses and set a goal of ensuring 100% of formerly incarcerated individuals have housing upon reentry.
Invest $1 billion per year in juvenile justice reform, including funding for after-school programs, community centers, and summer jobs. Biden-Harris will also double the number of mental health professionals in our schools.

Tackle Health Inequities and Expand Access to Affordable Health Care. Joe has a plan to protect and build on Obamacare to ensure access to high-quality, affordable care, including by providing Black Americans with a new public health insurance option and lowering their health care costs.

Lower health care costs for African Americans enrolled in Obamacare plans by increasing the value of premium tax credits, lowering premium and making it more affordable for African Americans to purchase plans with lower deductibles and out-of-pocket spending.
Lower prescription drug costs, starting by allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
Reduce the uninsured rate for African Americans. Biden-Harris will give all Americans a new choice, a public health insurance option like Medicare. He will also automatically enroll into the public option – for free – individuals who right now would be on Medicaid but for their state’s unwillingness to take up the Obamacare Medicaid expansion.
Guarantee up to 12 weeks paid family and medical leave for all workers and up to seven days of paid sick, family and safe leave.
Increase funding for mental health services and reduce the stigma around mental health.
Improve delivery of trauma services for Black people who survive violence by reforming federal programs.

Expand Education Opportunities and Make Higher Education Affordable for Black Men. Joe has a plan to expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system.

Provide high-quality, universal pre-kindergarten for all three- and four-year-olds.
Eliminate the funding gap between white and non-white districts, and rich and poor districts in order to give teachers a raise and expand rigorous STEM curriculum in underserved school districts.
Ensure Black Americans can attend community college and job training programs without debt and make public colleges and universities tuition-free for families earning under $125,000 (including 90% of Black families). He’ll also invest in wraparound support for community college students, from textbook and transportation costs to faculty mentoring, tutoring, and peer support groups.
Invest $50 billion in workforce training and strengthen Registered Apprenticeships.
Double the maximum value of Pell grants and restore formerly incarcerated individuals’ eligibility for Pell.
Invest over $70 billion in Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) and Minority-Serving Institutions (MSIs) to lower students’ costs, increase graduation rates, establish research centers, build high-tech labs, and more.

Relieve student debt, including by forgiving undergraduate tuition-related federal student debt from public colleges and universities and private HBCUs and MSIs for Americans earning up to $125,000.

Protect the Voting Rights of Black Men. Joe has a plan to make the right to vote real for African Americans.

Restore the Voting Rights Act renamed to honor the legacy of civil rights icon Congressman John Lewis.
Ensure that the Justice Department challenges the state laws that suppress the right to vote.
Advance automatic voter registration, same-day voter registration; work to end gerrymandering; and protect our voting systems from foreign interference.
Work to make automatic voter restoration a reality in all states for people with felony records at the completion of their sentence.
Appoint U.S. Supreme Court justices and federal judges who look like America, are committed to the rule of law, understand the importance of individual civil rights and civil liberties in a democratic society, and respect foundational precedents like Brown vs. Board of Education.
Support a commission to study reparations and the continuing impacts of slavery.

Address Environmental Injustices that Impact Black Communities. Joe has a plan to make historic investments in accessible transit and transportation, clean up legacy pollution, and build clean water infrastructure in Black communities.

The public health crisis that happened to the majority-Black population in Flint – exposing children and families to lead contamination – is, unfortunately, a reality in many Black communities. It must never be allowed to happen again.
The Biden-Harris Administration will work to eliminate legacy pollution in Black communities and address challenges common to Black communities. For example, the Biden-Harris Administration will provide funds for replacing and remediating lead service lines and lead paint in households, child care centers, and schools in order to ensure all communities have access to safe drinking water and wastewater infrastructure. These investments will create good paying jobs for Black communities.
Biden-Harris will hold polluters accountable by directing the Environmental Protection Agency and the Justice Department to pursue criminal anti-pollution cases to the fullest extent permitted by the law.

TRUMP HAS FAILED BLACK MEN

Among the many ways President Trump has failed Black men, Trump’s failure to prepare and contain the spread of COVID-19 has devastated Black-owned businesses and led to historic unemployment among Black men.

Trump has more than doubled the number of unemployed Black men, a staggering 1.2 million people with unemployment rates of 29.8% for 16- to 19-year-old Black men and 27.1% for 20- 24-year-old Black men.
Trump failed to support Black-owned small businesses. Black small businesses were almost twice as likely to close as other small businesses during the first few months of this recession, as Trump botched delivery of financial assistance to small businesses. President Trump failed to deliver relief for Black- and other minority-owned businesses in particular, providing Paycheck Protection Program loans to only 20% of small businesses in states and counties with the highest density of Black-owned businesses.

Trump is sabotaging Black mens’ access to healthcare during a pandemic.

President Trump’s sheer incompetence and a failure to listen to science and experts has resulted in a higher proportion of Black people contracting and dying from the coronavirus than any other group in the country.
To make matters worse, Trump is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down Obamacare, which would leave millions without health insurance in the middle of a deadly pandemic, and allow insurers to once again deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions like asthma, cancer, and diabetes. Black men under the age of 65 were nearly twice as likely as their white peers to be uninsured before the pandemic even started.

Trump inflames racial violence and divides the nation.

Trump denigrates, villainizes and ridicules Black leaders, athletes, and protesters when they stand up for Black lives.
Trump publicly proclaimed a moral equivalency between neo-Nazis and Klansmen and those who would protest for racial justice. In Charlottesville, during the protests for racial justice, Trump said that there are “very fine people on both sides.”
Donald Trump and the Republican Party have engaged in a state-by-state effort to entrench Jim Crow-style voter suppression by passing laws that have no apparent purpose besides making it more difficult for people of color to vote.

Trump has made Black children vulnerable to abuse and injustice in schools by stripping protections against discrimination and excessive discipline.

Although young Black boys are three times more likely to be suspended than their white peers, Trump and Betsy DeVos revoked rules that protected Black children from racial bias in school discipline.
They also did away with measures meant to help schools diversify or implement inclusive affirmative action plans.
Trump abandoned his promise to help students manage education loans, leaving Black Americans three times more likely to default on that debt.
13407045, Pure ignorance
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-06-20 08:13 PM
That post was straight out of like 2002. I can smell the XXL NBA team logo denim jacket on you from here.
13407048, Yoooooooo ahahah
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 08:27 PM
>That post was straight out of like 2002. I can smell the
>XXL NBA team logo denim jacket on you from here.
13407054, so you're selfish got it.
Posted by Triptych, Tue Oct-06-20 09:00 PM
ppl like you always want to give a speech like THEY'RE running lol.

how did you never learn to compare two things?
13407066, He’s a Mormon
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Oct-07-20 07:06 AM
of course he is selfish and short sighted.

13407121, dude was in here defending PharmaBro
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Oct-07-20 11:49 AM
13407134, oh shit that's right
Posted by Stadiq, Wed Oct-07-20 12:36 PM


All kinds of self-image issues I'd imagine.
13407142, He said something about wanting to tell his grandmother
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Oct-07-20 12:47 PM
like he joined to troll his family.

Can’t trust these new niggas over there.
13407133, FDR wasn't a socialist. LBJ wasn't pushing Civil Rights. Lincoln wasn't
Posted by Stadiq, Wed Oct-07-20 12:35 PM

an abolitionist.


The idea is to get the *closest* thing you can to an ally in office, then push them.


Thinking about it any other way is just pure 100% selfish, fake deep, shoot yourself in the foot, ignorance.

If this was an election between Biden and say AOC, then fuck yeah...vote AOC.

But it isn't.

Its between Biden and Trump. Which on of those guys do you think is *more* likely to be an ally?


This shit isn't hard. Yeah, it sucks but not playing because you don't like the rules is some bullshit...especially considering all the people that will needlessly suffer because you think you're deep.
13407163, Are we sure Kamala is Indian, sweetie?
Posted by Amritsar, Wed Oct-07-20 01:58 PM
I couldn't tell from your post
13407009, Coronavirus has tested positive for Stephen Miller
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Oct-06-20 06:01 PM
13407011, I say this with no hesitiation:
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Oct-06-20 06:06 PM
I hope that sack of shit dies.
13407015, LOL can't argue with that !
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Oct-06-20 06:28 PM
13407022, twice
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Oct-06-20 06:36 PM
>I hope that sack of shit dies.
13407024, Double that again (c) Ice-T
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Oct-06-20 06:40 PM
13407028, Looking forward to some peanut-head negro to lumber into this post
Posted by navajo joe, Tue Oct-06-20 07:08 PM
talking about, "You aren't content in your heart" or "He's living rent-free in your head"

He'll live but he's a monster who deserves to die and die horribly. Hopefully we live long enough to see that happen.
13407017, thoughts and prayers
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Oct-06-20 06:32 PM
to the covid-19 virus and the toxic environment it's currently trapped in.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13407025, Some things even COVID doesn't deserve
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Oct-06-20 06:49 PM
13407040, Ahahaha.
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 07:51 PM
13407056, It is what it is. Fuck him
Posted by walihorse, Tue Oct-06-20 09:22 PM
13407109, talked to my boy who said he cousin got expelled from
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Oct-07-20 11:16 AM
Samo High for spitting in that dude's face lol

He been saying wild anti islam and anti immigrant shit since HS

And pretends he's not Jewish supposedly

I don't know what made him such a terrible human being but I always find it interesting when these fuckboy conservatives grow up in supposed bastions of liberal politics

Ben Shapiro @ UCLA, same thing.
13407113, LOL i kept wondering if those SM17st dudes fucked with him
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Oct-07-20 11:25 AM
and he's been seeking revenge ever since
13407118, LMAO Graveyard and SM17 teamed up for the express purpose
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Oct-07-20 11:42 AM
of wedgie application
13407136, Samo is the most diverse, chill high school campus i've ever been on
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Oct-07-20 12:39 PM
i feel like we've talked about this before. i went to parties in sm all the time, it was always a mixed bag.

but it wasnt all kumbaya, and there would also be weird racial instances on occasion. When one of my friends was going there he got some kind of exterminate the mexicans letter that was sent to every student with a hispanic last name after someone with access got everyone's info. it was from some kind of 'conservatives for white america' group

this was early 90s so it precedes Miller but i know stuff happened on occasion after. i could see him looking around campus like Remi in Higher Learning.
13407150, Back in the day Samo was much whiter, so it's not like it was
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Oct-07-20 01:32 PM
always 'liberal' and happily diverse, back in the 50's and 60's or whatever.

But yeah by the 90s Samo was less divided than a lot of other schools when they partied, 100% agree. And the chill white dudes that were comfortable in their own skin were cool with everybody. Clicks were usually not made based on race.

But the way it sounds, stephen was that kid not going to parties and not comfortable in his own skin. Sounds like he was reactionarily afraid of being at a school that had more students of color.
13407161, yeah, my friend's parents went there in the 60s
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Oct-07-20 01:55 PM
never really heard them tell stories but was def more white back then.

and even in the 90s you had people break off by race to a degree but also were all cool for the most part.
Venice was similar but a little more fuck you towards people not from Venice. The first time i ditched school and went to pick up my boy from Samo i was kinda mind blown by the vibe.

even among white people at Samo you had the north of montana and south of montana kids kinda separating by class. The south ones usually more comfortable hanging out. idk where stephen lived but he comes off as your basic little bitter libertarian kid who had some bad experiences and ran with them, clinging to whatever he could to feel special. in this case his whiteness or self-perceived intellect.


>always 'liberal' and happily diverse, back in the 50's and
>60's or whatever.
>
>But yeah by the 90s Samo was less divided than a lot of other
>schools when they partied, 100% agree. And the chill white
>dudes that were comfortable in their own skin were cool with
>everybody. Clicks were usually not made based on race.
>
>But the way it sounds, stephen was that kid not going to
>parties and not comfortable in his own skin. Sounds like he
>was reactionarily afraid of being at a school that had more
>students of color.
13407189, the politico piece said he moved from an affluent neighborhood
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Oct-07-20 02:48 PM
to a more diverse one at one point

maybe he was hitting up tiny swastikas with mean streak on the number 7 bus before making a mad dash across Virginia Park with money tucked in his socks lol

Anyways thought it was a trip (but also fitting) they shot the Bird on a Wire video at Samo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ohbKidZLiA



13407216, LOL
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Oct-07-20 04:11 PM
>to a more diverse one at one point
>
>maybe he was hitting up tiny swastikas with mean streak on the
>number 7 bus before making a mad dash across Virginia Park
>with money tucked in his socks lol
13407114, The Man Who Made Stephen Miller (Link)
Posted by navajo joe, Wed Oct-07-20 11:26 AM
This is written by the author of "Hatemonger: Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, and the White Nationalist Agenda by Jean Guerrero

Of note, former Attorney General Jeff Sessions was just in the news yesterday for his role in the child separation policy (Rod Rosenstein was also involved).

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/01/stephen-miller-david-horowitz-mentor-389933

By Jean Guerrero


In December 2012, with the Republican Party reeling from a brutal election that left Democrats in control of the White House and the Senate, the conservative activist David Horowitz emailed a strategy paper to the office of Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions.

Horowitz, now 81, was a longtime opponent of immigration and the founder of a think tank and a campus freedom-of-speech advocacy group. He saw in Sessions a kindred spirit—a senator who could reawaken a more nationalist fire in the Republican Party. The person he emailed it to was a Sessions aide: Stephen Miller. Horowitz, who recalled the episode in an interview and shared the emails with me, had known Miller since the aide was in high school.

Horowitz encouraged Miller to not only give the paper to Sessions but to circulate it in the Senate. Miller expressed eagerness to share it and asked for instructions. “Leave the Confidential note on it. It gives it an aura that will make people pay more attention to it,” Horowitz wrote. The paper, “Playing to the Head Instead of the Heart: Why Republicans Lost and How They Can Win,” included a section on the political utility of hostile feelings. Horowitz wrote that Democrats know how to “hate their opponents,” how to “incite envy and resentment, distrust and fear, and to direct those volatile emotions.” He urged Republicans to “return their fire.”

“Behind the failures of Republican campaigns lies an attitude that is administrative rather than combative. It focuses on policies rather than politics. It is more comfortable with budgets and pie charts than with the flesh and blood victims of their opponents’ policies,” Horowitz wrote, adding that Democrats have the moral high ground. “They are secular missionaries who want to ‘change society.’ Their goal is a new order of society—‘social justice.’” He argued that the only way to beat them is with “an equally emotional campaign that puts the aggressors on the defensive; that attacks them in the same moral language, identifying them as the bad guys.”

Horowitz wrote that hope and fear are the two strongest weapons in politics. Barack Obama had used hope to become president. “Fear is a much stronger and more compelling emotion,” Horowitz argued, adding that Republicans should appeal to voters’ base instincts.

It is perhaps the most compact crystallization of the relationship that propelled Miller, now a senior policy adviser and speechwriter in the Donald Trump administration, to the White House and of the importance that relationship has had in the administration. The friendship between Miller and Horowitz began when Miller—who did not respond to interview requests for the book from which this article was adapted—was in high school and continued throughout his career. Tracing it reveals a source of Miller’s laser focus on immigration restriction, which has over the past few years resulted in a ban on travel from mostly Muslim countries and a policy that separated families crossing the border into the United States to seek asylum. If you want to understand the language Trump uses to talk about immigrants and his opponents, or the immigration policies he has put into place, often via Miller, you have to also understand Horowitz, and the formative role he played in Miller’s career and life.

Miller met Horowitz shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks when Miller was a teenager growing up on the Southern California coast. He was going through a period of family turmoil. A few years before, they had moved out of a million-dollar home in a wealthy white neighborhood to a slightly smaller house in a more diverse neighborhood. Miller’s father, Michael, was having financial troubles and fighting several legal battles related to his real estate company, including a fight with his brother whom he permanently separated from the family with a no-contact order in a settlement agreement. Rather than attending a private school the way Michael’s youngest son later did, his oldest son, Stephen, found himself at a diverse public school, which celebrated Día de los Muertos and Cinco de Mayo.

When his father was tangled up in lawsuits, Miller found comfort in a number of conservative California-based talk radio show hosts, including Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh complained about multiculturalism and the poor, whom he called “the biggest piglets at the mother pig and her nipples” in his book The Way Things Ought To Be. Miller read the book and later cited it as a favorite.

Geographically, the 16-year-old was nearly as far from the 9/11 attacks as he could be in the United States, but he was transformed by the tragedy. He wondered why his high school didn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance. He called into a local right-wing talk radio show, the Larry Elder Show, to complain about his school’s alleged lack of patriotism.

When Miller heard about Horowitz through a classmate, he reached out to him and invited him to speak at Santa Monica High School. Horowitz had heard Miller on the radio, as had other right-wing provocateurs who would go on to shape Trumpism: Steve Bannon, Andrew Breitbart and Alex Marlow. Like them, Horowitz was riveted by the teenager’s furious rants against multiculturalism. He thought he was “gutsy,” a kindred spirit. He agreed to speak at his school.

Horowitz ran, and continues to run, the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, which was later renamed the David Horowitz Freedom Center: A School for Political Warfare. The foundation says it “sees its role as that of a battle tank, geared to fight a war that many still don’t recognize.” The enemy? In the foundation’s words, it’s the “political left,” which “has declared war on America and its constitutional system, and is willing to collaborate with America’s enemies abroad and criminals at home to bring America down.” Horowitz says the political left poses an “existential threat.” Horowitz has been labeled an anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant extremist by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a hate watch group.

Horowitz’s parents were members of the Communist Party, and he supported the New Left in the '60s and '70s, and worked with the Black Panther Party. But he became disillusioned after a white friend he had recommended to work for them as a bookkeeper, Betty Van Patter, was murdered.

The murder was never solved, but Horowitz blamed the Black activists. He came to believe liberals had waged a wrongheaded “war against ‘whiteness.’” White European males, primarily English and Protestant Christian, created “America’s unique political culture … led the world in abolishing slavery and establishing the principles of ethnic and racial inclusion,” he wrote in his book Hating Whitey. “We are a nation besieged by peoples ‘of color’ trying to immigrate to our shores to take advantage of the unparalleled opportunities and rights our society offers them.”

Horowitz, who is Jewish like Miller, argues that Protestant Christian doctrines are fundamental to America and are under direct assault by Muslims, progressives and anyone who argues with his ideology. Having leaped from left-wing radicalism to right-wing radicalism, he uses the language of the civil rights movement to attack it, painting conservative white men as victims of discrimination and defending hate speech with appeals to “intellectual diversity.” “Academic freedom is most likely to thrive in an environment of intellectual diversity that protects and fosters independence of thought and speech,” reads the “Academic Bill of Rights” he created for his youth group, “Students for Academic Freedom.” Meanwhile, his acolytes learn to invert and deflect criticism. Liberals and people of color are “bigots,” “racists,” and “oppressors,” Horowitz has said multiple times. “The racists here are blacks who have been brainwashed into thinking all cops are white and oppressing them,” Horowitz has tweeted.

When Miller invited Horowitz to speak at his high school, the goateed older man had recently been defending young conservatives in several cases against allegations of racism, sexism and homophobia. For example, a university fraternity had been suspended for posting racist flyers at Cal State Northridge. Horowitz says he thought the protests were “overwrought.” He helped connect the fraternity with an experienced San Diego attorney. In the spring of 1993, the fraternity was reinstated amid threats of a lawsuit by its attorney, alleging free speech violations.

Days before Horowitz’s scheduled visit to Miller’s high school, administrators canceled, giving vague excuses about why. Miller complained as a guest on The Larry Elder Show. The administrators relented, and Horowitz was allowed to speak. Horowitz told students, “There is no exodus of people fleeing America because it is oppressive or racist. That tells you that people who argue that it is are selling you a bill of goods.”

Horowitz spoke to me in a raspy voice that dripped a kind of fatherly exhaustion. He recalled worrying that the teenager would not get admitted into a top-tier university; perhaps he wouldn’t get recommendation letters from teachers.

Horowitz let Miller publish a self-promotional article on his website: “How I Changed My Left-Wing High School.” Miller recapped his successes at influencing school administrators, such as with the Pledge of Allegiance. He wrote, “In the 1970s, students started a political revolution on campus. Now is the time for a counter-revolution—one characterized by a devotion to this nation and its ideals. David Horowitz will soon launch ‘Students for Academic Freedom,’ an organization dedicated to just these principals . Acting together, we can succeed.”

Miller got into Duke University. Horowitz was relieved. His young protégé would go on rising. And he would take Horowitz’s ideas with him; he started with a launch of a Duke University chapter of Horowitz’s Students for Academic Freedom.

At Duke, Miller battled multiculturalism and campus liberalism by appealing to desires for diversity—in his case, diversity of opinion—as Horowitz had taught him to do.

In 2004, as a sophomore, Miller became outraged that Duke was hosting a Palestine Solidarity Movement conference. A few days before the conference, an inflammatory email impersonating PSM organizers went out to thousands at Duke. “The message included statements in support of terrorism and a slogan used by the extremist group Hamas,” wrote John F. Burness, senior vice president for public affairs and government relations, in a letter to students and faculty. “The students did NOT send this message, which appears to be a deliberate act of disinformation and provocation on the part of people who do not want the conference to take place.” Computer security staff investigated. They concluded only that the message originated in California.

Miller handed out flyers linking the PSM to terrorist groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad. He met with Burness to complain about alleged PSM terrorist-recruiting. Burness was struck by the vehemence of the young man’s statements and his self-assuredness. Burness says the encounter was one of many he would have with Miller.

Burness knew him as a Horowitz acolyte, and always had the sense Miller had just been consulting with him. “The language he would use occasionally sounded exactly like Horowitz,” he says. (Horowitz has long denied that Palestinians have a right to a national identity, tweeting in 2018: “There is no Palestine. There are no Palestinians.”) Burness defended the decision to host the conference, saying the organizers had followed the proper channels. He thought it was ironic that Miller, relying on academic freedom arguments, took issue with them applied to the opposite side. “He conveyed a sense that he had all the answers and that mine were made up,” Burness says.

Miller wrote a piece for a conservative online forum, encouraging people to call or email Duke’s president and stop supporting Duke. He wrote that Duke’s president had “prostituted the campus to terror.” He said he was shocked at the Jewish students supporting the PSM, describing them as “disenfranchised college kids looking for a sense of belonging, of personal power.”

Miller visited Horowitz back home a few times in college and attended his annual Restoration Weekends and West Coast Retreats run through the David Horowitz Freedom Center. At luxury resorts in California and elsewhere, the events united conservative lawmakers and media personalities. (Registration for the 2019 West Coast retreat was between $1,400 per person, with sponsorship options of up to $20,000.) Miller was on a student panel in 2006 discussing the alleged bullying of conservatives in schools. He mingled with prominent right-wingers, including former Attorney General John Ashcroft, the National Rife Association's Wayne LaPierre and Andrew Breitbart.

In his junior year, he secured a column in the campus newspaper, The Chronicle. According to a classmate who worked at the paper, he was given the position because some staffers saw him as adding to the university’s intellectual diversity. Miller attacked multiculturalism, singled out minority students and denied the idea of systemic racism, citing “racial paranoia.” He wrote: “For many members of the political left, the belief in a racist society is an article of faith-beyond all reason, question or rational discussion.”

He invited Horowitz to speak at Duke in 2006, and Horowitz recruited Miller to lead a national Terrorism Awareness Project 2007. Its website contained such statements as “The goal of the Arabs is the destruction of the Jews” and “There were no Arabs in Palestine until the Muslim invasions.” A button labeled “Ammunition” led to a page advertising anti-Islam books, including some by self-described Islamophobe Robert Spencer, who wrote an article entitled “The Case for Islamophobia,” published on Horowitz’s website. The Terrorism Awareness Project website claimed the goal of Muslim “jihad” is “world domination.” Most Muslims interpret “jihad” as the struggle to be a good Muslim. Only extremists see it as a call to holy war.

Miller was invited onto Fox & Friends in 2007 to discuss his thwarted efforts to run advertisements in campus newspapers with Horowitz’s interpretation of jihad.

Despite the attention, Miller was seen by his classmates as a fringe figure. He graduated without a job. He drifted awhile, going to Israel on a birthright trip and traveling in Europe. In the fall, Horowitz asked him to help coordinate an Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week on college campuses, featuring speakers, film screenings and other events to “educate” people about the threat of “Islamo-Fascism.” Critics called it an “Islamophobia tour.” “We’re not going to back down an inch,” Miller said.

Horowitz wanted to help Miller find employment. He remembered Michele Bachmann, a first-term Tea Party Minnesota congresswoman he’d met at one of his restoration events; she was one of the few Republicans with a perspective about jihad that aligned with his own.

Horowitz connected the two; Bachmann hired Miller as her press secretary. Soon, Miller tired of working for Bachmann, according to Horowitz. (Horowitz developed a negative opinion of Bachmann as a “flake” and says he suspects Miller did, too.) Horowitz helped him land a job with ultraconservative Arizona Congressman John Shadegg in early 2009. But after just a few months, Horowitz learned his old friend, Sessions, was looking for a press secretary. Horowitz recommended Miller to him.

Sessions had been denied a federal judgeship as a U.S. attorney in the '80s amid allegations that he had improperly prosecuted Black voting rights activists and used racially insensitive language. (Sessions defends the prosecution as warranted.) “As you can imagine, I couldn’t have given a higher recommendation, both because of his intelligence and his courage under fire, and because of how responsible he was,” Horowitz says.

As Sessions’ press secretary, Miller began to communicate regularly with bloggers at Breitbart. Breitbart editors had given Miller free rein to pitch articles, and Miller began sending links from around the internet, according to former Breitbart writer Katie McHugh. Miller sent them to a white nationalist website created by Peter Brimelow, whom Miller had invited to speak at Duke in collaboration with Duke Conservative Union colleague Richard Spencer, now a well-known white nationalist. Brimelow’s website promotes the white genocide conspiracy theory, which says white people are being systematically replaced by people of color—often cited by white terrorists to justify violence against people of color.

Miller encouraged Breitbart bloggers such as McHugh to pull from the white supremacist website American Renaissance, which he referred to familiarly as “AmRen” and which highlights the crimes of Black and brown people. It has a “Blacks versus Hispanics” archive. Horowitz told me he thinks Miller was probably “influenced” in 2002 by the fact that Horowitz posted an American Renaissance piece on his homepage. Horowitz says he sees the website founder Jared Taylor’s interracial crime articles as informative and thinks of the white supremacist as a smart man. But he claims he rejects Taylor’s “perverse” idea that whites need to organize under white identity. He calls that perspective “racial,” rather than “racist,” adding: “You can call it racist but it is no more racist than the general attitude in the Democratic Party.”

“I haven’t discussed this with Stephen,” Horowitz wrote me in an email, “but I’m certain his intention was to use the reporting of American Renaissance on interracial crimes to emphasize that cultural differences are important and that unvetted illegal immigration is problematic. If you look at the statistics of crimes committed by illegal immigrants across the southern border, you will see this is a reasonable concern, and has nothing to do with racism.”(In fact, crime statistics show that noncitizens are no more likely to commit crimes than U.S. citizens).

Sessions participated in one of Horowitz’s West Coast retreats with conservative lawmakers in February 2013. At the Terranea Resort in Palos Verdes, Calif., Sessions gave a keynote speech praising Horowitz for his “profound contribution.” He described a revelatory experience in bed while reading one of his books, Radicals, which portrays Obama as a totalitarian extremist trying to destroy America. He praised the papers Horowitz had written. He declared that the man was making “a difference in the way we approach things.” He said, “I’m learning, David.”

One of Sessions’ signature achievements while Miller worked for him was helping torpedo an immigration reform bill backed by a bipartisan coalition of lawmakers known the Gang of Eight. It’s easy to see echoes of Horowitz’ advice about stoking fear and demonizing Democrats, offered just a year earlier, in their campaign to sink the bill. Together, they painted its supporters as elites, part of a “donor class” seeking cheap labor. Miller wrote a handbook that Sessions’ office distributed to Republican members of Congress, suggesting talking points to use against Democratic supporters such as: “My Democrat colleagues think the first goal of immigration policy should be bringing in more low-wage workers to replace them.” The handbook also repeatedly uses the phrase “criminal aliens,” as in: “Overall, there are about 167,000 convicted criminal aliens who were ordered removed that are now at large in the United States, and almost as many at large who were released before being ordered removed.”

Miller started reaching out to the Trump campaign soon after it launched. He bombarded campaign manager Corey Lewandowski with emails at strange hours, such as two o’clock in the morning. “We have to talk immigration, we have to talk immigration,” Miller said, according to Lewandowski. “Let me come to the campaign.”

In January 2016, he was officially brought on to shape Trump’s speeches and immigration policy; it’s easy to hear similarities to Horowitz’s arguments, as well as his advice on style, in Trump’s speeches today.

That might be because almost from the beginning of Miller’s new role, he went to his old mentor for speech ideas and policy advice, according to correspondence Horowitz shared with me. On May 9, 2016, Miller emailed him. “What are some ways the government and the oligarchs who rely on the government have ‘rigged’ the system against poor young blacks and hispanics?” In his strategy paper about appealing to fear, Horowitz had urged Republicans in their war on Democrats to “put their victims—women, minorities, the poor and working Americans—in front of every argument.” Accordingly, he responded to Miller with what he called a “soundbite”: “Everything that is wrong with the inner city, everything that stifles the aspirations of minorities and the poor and blocks their advancement, that policy can effect, Democrats are 100% responsible for.” He shot back a list of items, such as “dead-end welfare” and “hand-cuffed police,” adding: “The inner cities are war zones … BLM makes criminals into martyrs, and incites violence against the police.”

Book cover from HATEMONGER.
This article is adapted from HATEMONGER by Jean Guerrero.

Soon after, Trump ramped up mentions of the inner cities and compared them to “war zones.” “You can go to war zones in countries that we are fighting and it is safer than living in some of our inner cities that are run by the Democrats,” he said in Akron, Ohio, on August 22.

On August 14, 2016, Miller again wrote Horowitz. “The boss is doing a speech on Radical Islam. What would you say about Sharia Law?” Miller asked. “Islamic law is incompatible with the religious and individual freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution,” Horowitz wrote. “I would give specific examples … Gays hung from cranes, jail for holding hands in public if you’re not married … Although Islam itself is definitely the problem, I would be extremely careful about focusing the attack on Sharia — the idea of Islamic law — and not Islam as such,” he wrote. “Referring to it as ‘Radical Islam’ — though inaccurate — is a good and necessary idea. Necessary because Trump is under such unprincipled attack from left and right.” (Horowitz explained to me that in his view, all of Islam is “problematic” because of a passage in the Quran calling for violence. The Christian Bible also has passages calling for violence.)

The next day in Ohio, on August 15, Trump gave a speech about the threat of “radical Islamic terrorism.” He painted a gruesome image: “Children slaughtered, girls sold into slavery, men and women burned alive. … We will defeat radical Islamic terrorism, just as we have defeated every threat we have faced in every age before. But we will not defeat it with closed eyes, or silenced voices. Anyone who cannot name our enemy, is not fit to lead this country.”

Horowitz emailed Miller the next day, thrilled that his mentorship had paid off.

“Great fucking ground-breaking speech,” Horowitz wrote. “I spent the last twenty years waiting for this. Good work.”

This summer, as the economy strained under the weight of Covid-19 and tens of thousands of Americans died from the virus, Trump has increased the fear and vilification factors in his tweets and speeches. “Angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities,” he warned in his July 4 speech at Mount Rushmore. The speech, which mentioned “far left fascism,” was written by his team of writers in the West Wing, led by Miller.
13407119, Damn super deep! Gotta read this when I have time today
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Oct-07-20 11:44 AM
13407120, OKP Frank Longo was at Duke the same time as him.
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Oct-07-20 11:47 AM
I can't find the posts, but I know he's talked about how was a horrible little shit back then too.
13407137, Just reading this Politico article this guy had the blueprint more
Posted by T Reynolds, Wed Oct-07-20 12:40 PM
or less in order by the time he was at Duke

13407145, Really wonder if some of these people believe this stuff
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Oct-07-20 12:52 PM
or if it’s just a money grab.

Wild how it tends to be Jewish or other teams half the time too.
13407042, 1 and then the 2....
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-06-20 08:11 PM
http://twitter.com/rwxoxo/status/1313275068089274369?s=21
13407047, fauci said thats yalls mans.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-06-20 08:25 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1313164574368174081
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Fauci says it's "obvious" he hasn't been involved in Trump's care

https://t.co/KNF1r3x3qI?amp=1
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13407049, Hahaha
Posted by Brew, Tue Oct-06-20 08:28 PM
13407079, 'How he handles himself is a metaphor for how he handles the nation'
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-07-20 08:37 AM
https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1313175479902507009
https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1313182691588820998
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I hope Pres. Trump remains at Walter Reed as long as medically necessary and doesn't return to the WH, thinking he looks weak staying at a hospital. When you're POTUS, being repsonsible is more important than any other conisderation. Don't rush home. Stay as long as necessary.

If he does return to the WH, he will be tempted to go to the Oval. He can’t do that. He can’t break quarantine, or do things that the rest of us aren’t supposed to do if we get COVID. How he handles himself is a metaphor for how he handles the nation. The WH must realize that.
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*moments later...*
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https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1313828997692882944
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BREAKING: Larry Kudlow on CNBC says Trump was in the Oval Office YESTERDAY, while he has COVID. Doesn’t say whether he wore a mask
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13407153, he literally doesnt care if his supporters die
Posted by fontgangsta, Wed Oct-07-20 01:40 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313838275044442127
13407171, They should rename it the WTH house. Like...??? Heather lmao
Posted by Bambino Grande, Wed Oct-07-20 02:08 PM

«wade through a sea of COVID» .... sheeeeeshhh
13407217, they don't even care if they die. it's eugenics all the way down
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Oct-07-20 04:15 PM
from their perspective everyone is going to die, so you may as well not try to save anyone and just steal money until you die.

and they don't even try to protect themselves, because they inherently believe their better genes will save them, and if they die then it just means their genes weren't good enough


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13407309, its a death cult.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-07-20 09:48 PM
'we are all gonna die anyway so why care?' is the entire republican party ethos.
13407166, who put up the money for chauvin release?
Posted by Trinity444, Wed Oct-07-20 02:00 PM
13407350, I think they had a venmo set up
Posted by Amritsar, Thu Oct-08-20 07:57 AM
They being YT
13407245, Trump to God: "I meant to do that"
Posted by handle, Wed Oct-07-20 07:38 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-covid-oval-office-blessing-god/

Trump returns to Oval Office, says it's a "blessing from God" that he got COVID-19

I've said it before - if you know ANYONE who supports this guy you should drop them from your life forever.

They simply are not trustworthy
13407330, what is up with his right eye?
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-08-20 01:08 AM
https://twitter.com/jfreewright/status/1314050812096794625

and it looks like they switched up his face paint to different color. prolly to hide how pale/translucent it is at the moment.
13407349, Is this muhfucka in Blackface?
Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Oct-08-20 07:56 AM
13407357, It *is* October, after all
Posted by Oak27, Thu Oct-08-20 08:24 AM
13407348, W.H. outbreak may have exposed thousands from Georgia to Minn. (link)
Posted by navajo joe, Thu Oct-08-20 07:53 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/10/07/officials-exposed-went-attend-rallies-debates-and-fundraisers/5907663002/

This is too long for me to swipe but the fact that there even needs to be an election is insane at this point. These people should be run out on a rail. Every, single, last one.

Let Trump have Mussolini's final moments
13407354, The super spreader says he doesn't believe he's contagious
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Oct-08-20 08:11 AM
Patient zero is ready to do rallies again
13407435, the 25th amendment?
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-08-20 01:12 PM
what’s the deal with this one?

in light of the guy in office recent actions isn’t it time the dem’s play the big joker or nah?



13407437, VP and cabinet would have to be on board
Posted by MEAT, Thu Oct-08-20 01:16 PM
Most of the cabinet is in "acting" capacities.
None of them are loyal to this country and only that man.
It's not happening.
13407490, Speaking of cabinet, what is Ben Carson up to?
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Thu Oct-08-20 03:21 PM
I haven't heard about him in about 2 years. Dude moves in silence.
13407516, I think I’m paranoid...
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-08-20 04:48 PM
there’s nothing in the constitution that can be used to take this guys keys?

13407519, Yes, impeachment and removal
Posted by handle, Thu Oct-08-20 04:54 PM
But the Republicans have to be on board.
13407524, the process can slow up the SC pick, right?
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-08-20 05:01 PM
assuming they have to address the impeachment first.

13407528, No, proabbly not
Posted by handle, Thu Oct-08-20 05:31 PM
They could schedule 1 a minute hearing on the SC pick and then force a vote. They can install her in 1 minute if they want to.

The point is getting power, not respecting norms.

13407540, **faints**
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-08-20 06:52 PM
13407470, i've been jokerfied and hyper blackpilled the past few years
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Thu Oct-08-20 02:41 PM
but this shit is making me wonder how far it's gonna go.

this mf is still hype off of them road warrior steroids in a livestock syringe and tweeting like a goon bc nobody wants to physically take his phone away on account of the mf being a walking biohazard.

this shit is wild as fuck, man. i love it but i hate it. i feel the worse for the whitehouse staff that maintains the property (servers, housekeepers, etc).
13407556, this dude still sick as a dog.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-08-20 09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1314386696541265922
13407557, I want to believe but I think he is fine for the most part
Posted by calij81, Thu Oct-08-20 09:44 PM
13407558, I'm with you but only cause the last 4 years made me a pessimist.
Posted by Brew, Thu Oct-08-20 09:57 PM
That audio does sound bad tho.
13407560, I don’t doubt that he is still coughing and feels sick
Posted by calij81, Thu Oct-08-20 11:18 PM
But he isn’t SICK, SICK. He isn’t lungs filling with fluid sick, he is more just common cold sick and symptoms now.
13407561, I think he has lung damage and we’ll see how his is once those steroids
Posted by MEAT, Thu Oct-08-20 11:43 PM
Go away.
13407562, I think he's definitely sicker than letting on, but not on death's door
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-09-20 12:35 AM
And he's not going to die, at least not imminently. They're pumping full of all sorts of shit, surreptitiously. They'll give him steroids longer than they should, and with a greater frequency than they should.
13407568, Yep. Has to be
Posted by Amritsar, Fri Oct-09-20 06:45 AM
13407596, No tweets today, canceling weekend campaign events
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-09-20 10:20 AM
https://twitter.com/johnrobertsfox/status/1314581444635828226

I'm sure he's doing just fine though right?
13407603, He announced a "live medical evaluation" on FoxNews tonight tho
Posted by mrhood75, Fri Oct-09-20 10:41 AM
Which, of course, is going to be 20 tons of horse shit. But given that announcement, it seems doubtful that he's really going to ground this weekend.
13407615, He's really WWE'ing this up
Posted by Oak27, Fri Oct-09-20 11:11 AM
I'm waiting on his live sex celebration if he somehow manages to win the election.

Only question is whether Melania or Ivanka would be his Lita.
13407604, But why schedule the live medical event on Fox
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-09-20 10:46 AM
Maybe that will be cancelled.
13407607, Because the markets close for the weekend after 5pm
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-09-20 10:50 AM
Same reason he does all kinds of announcements Friday during the day and drops all kinds of weird shit Friday during the evening.

Stock manipulation and attention.

I'm willing to bet cash that whatever he's planning to do tonight, him and his friends are trading on that information right now.
13407609, Also this is the doctor evaluating him
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-09-20 10:52 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314593505373814784?s=20

We all know where this is going, we're under no obligation to play along.
13407611, The persistent anti-science propaganda of Fox's “medical correspondent” Marc Siegel
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-09-20 10:58 AM
The persistent anti-science propaganda of Fox's “medical correspondent” Marc Siegel

https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/persistent-anti-science-propaganda-foxs-medical-correspondent-marc-siegel

Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel has been a constant presence on Fox’s coronavirus coverage since the beginning of the crisis. During these many, many appearances -- 318 since January 20 -- Siegel regularly pushes coronavirus misinformation, downplays the severity of the crisis, and discards science in favor of right-wing talking points.

During the critical early days of the pandemic in March, Siegel repeatedly compared COVID-19 to the flu and said concern about the pandemic was being exaggerated to attack President Donald Trump politically, then he became among the first Fox personalities to push hydroxychloroquine as a supposed miracle treatment. Studies have shown that Fox’s misleading coverage of the pandemic at this time may have worsened its spread in the United States, and experts have singled out Siegel’s comments as prime examples of the network’s COVID-19 misinformation.

Siegel’s misinformation and pro-Trump sycophancy have not abated. He has been more than happy to spin away the serious implications of the president’s COVID-19 diagnosis. On September 25, Siegel downplayed the threat of the virus to young people, saying that if you're “under 70, it's almost impossible you are going to die" from COVID-19. This statement is reckless and false: not only does COVID-19 pose long-term risks even for young, healthy people, but increased spread of the disease among young people this past summer eventually reached older and more vulnerable populations. Despite his dubious commentary on the pandemic, which has been repeatedly criticized by members of the mainstream media, Siegel has a new book titled COVID: The Politics of Fear and the Power of Science set to be released next month.
Siegel downplayed the president’s diagnosis

On October 2, Siegel promoted hydroxychloroquine following the news of Trump’s coronavirus infection, saying that “research has not really backed” up the efficacy of the drug, but “I don’t think it’s ever been ruled out.”
Siegel, who has engaged in unsubstantiated speculation about the health of former Vice President Joe Biden, downplayed Trump’s positive diagnosis for COVID-19, telling Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade, “There is no question in my mind by the way, Brian, he can perform his duties 100%. No symptoms, that’s not even an issue here.”
On October 7, less than a week after the president announced he had contracted the novel coronavirus, Siegel said there's no concern over Trump working in the West Wing while still contagious despite the threat it poses to White House staff. He also noted that “the ventilation system and the air purification system in the Oval Office is excellent.”

Siegel has downplayed the threat of the novel coronavirus since the earliest days of the pandemic

On March 6, Siegel said the “worst-case scenario” for coronavirus is “it could be the flu.”
That same day, he claimed coronavirus concerns are being intentionally overblown to hurt Trump politically.
He attacked the World Health Organization as “a bunch of alarmists” and “saber rattlers” for warning about coronavirus, claiming, “There's no reason to believe that it's actually more problematic or deadly than influenza.” (About a month later, Siegel attacked the WHO for “underreacting.”)
On March 8, Siegel agreed with Fox & Friends Weekend co-host Pete Hegseth after he said, “I feel like the more I learn about this, the less there is to worry about.” Siegel responded, “I was about to say the same thing.”
On March 10, he called concern about coronavirus “paranoia” and suggested it was caused by a “fear of going outdoors. It’s agoraphobia, they have testing for that.”
On April 20, Siegel cited unreliable antibody testing data to claim: “The death rate is much, much lower than we’ve been talking about if you think about all these asymptomatic cases versus the tragic 600 that passed away. … We’re talking about a virus that for most cases is dramatically mild, we’re talking about a lower fatality rate than we thought.”
On April 24, Siegel again used antibody data to claim that “the hospitalization rate and the death rate, especially, is way much lower than what we thought it was. Much lower.”
On May 13, he said there will be no “big second wave” of coronavirus in America and pushed to reopen schools in person, adding: “Politically, if you think the Democrats are going to let the liberal colleges stay closed, think again. Those are their future voters.”
On July 5, Siegel downplayed the surge of summer cases as “manageable” and claimed “overall it’s milder cases,” even as the daily death toll began to rise again.
On July 7, he said schools need to reopen because “the risk to teachers is so much lower than it is to doctors.”
On the same day, Siegel said, “The spread among the young is not what is leading to the deaths or hospitalizations.” Recent research has shown this is false: During the time period Siegel made this remark, young people were catching and spreading the disease and may have later passed it on to older, more vulnerable populations.
Siegel on Dr. Anthony Fauci’s assessment that the U.S. is “knee-deep” in the coronavirus crisis: “Notice he didn't say ‘thigh-deep.’ … We’re not seeing in the West and the South as many sick patients, as many patients on ventilators.”
Siegel praised Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott for his handling of the coronavirus on July 13, even as new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths from COVID-19 were all going up in the state.

Siegel was among the first on Fox News to promote hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19

On March 12, Siegel was among the first Fox personalities to promote hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19.
Two days later, Siegel called the use of the drug in other countries as a COVID-19 treatment “promising.”
On March 21, Fox host Jeanine Pirro praised Siegel in an interview for being “among the first to tell us about a critical drug that’s being looked at to fight the coronavirus.”
On March 23, Siegel said that “a lot of early evidence looks good” regarding hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19.
The next day Siegel said he agreed “completely” with host Tucker Carlson that “the media are saying” hydroxychloroquine is “a conspiracy theory just because Trump mentioned it.”
On March 24, Siegel said hydroxychloroquine “may very well be” a treatment for COVID-19.
Siegel promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a “very promising” prophylactic for COVID-19, even as he admitted the lack of “substantial clinical trials” studying the drug on March 27’s Tucker Carlson Tonight.
On March 30, he praised Carlson for focusing on hydroxychloroquine and partly attributed the network’s coverage to the FDA’s emergency use authorization.
On April 3, Siegel said: “I can't prove to you that works at this point, but it's extremely promising. And there's a lot of evidence that it does work.”
Siegel promoted hydroxychloroquine as a coronavirus treatment by citing his own father's experience using the drug to treat an unspecified illness.
On July 6, Carlson and Siegel cited a flawed study in order to continue pushing hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19 weeks after the FDA had revoked its emergency use authorization.

Siegel has discarded science in favor of pro-Trump sycophancy, partisan commentary, and racism

After Carlson made a series of racist statements blaming Chinese people and culture for the spread of coronavirus in January, Siegel responded, “That’s an extremely important scientific point,” and said, “I think you’re absolutely right that it starts with the culture over there.”
On February 17, Siegel said he “can't believe how well” the Trump administration is handling the coronavirus response, adding: “The proof is in the pudding. We have 15 people in the United States with it. That's it. No one has died.”
Three days later, Siegel described Trump’s leadership on the coronavirus as “tremendous” and said the administration is “spreading confidence.”
After reports came out that the administration flew home infected Americans together with uninfected passengers, Siegel praised Trump’s response: “I think the task force appointed by the president is doing a very good job.”
On February 27, Siegel complained Trump “is getting no credit for” putting together “an incredibly competent task force that has a lot of experience with emerging contagions and they are quite right to say the risk, right now, to Americans is low.”
Siegel described Trump’s European travel ban as “bold” and said, “It’s very presidential and it’s leadership,” in a March 11 appearance on Hannity.
On March 12, Siegel said he would “absolutely applaud” Trump’s “bold move” to ban travel from Europe. (In a recent interview on Fox News Sunday, global health philanthropist Bill Gates told anchor Chris Wallace the ban likely worsened the spread of the pandemic.)
On May 14, Siegel said Dr. Anthony Fauci’s job is to agree with Trump: “He’s there to serve the president.”
The day after Trump’s June 20 indoor rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Siegel said, “I don’t see any difference between having a rally and having protests from a purely public health point of view. Very disappointing to see all the politicizing going on.” (Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain died from complications due to the coronavirus shortly after attending the rally in support of Trump.)
On June 24, Siegel blamed the media for misrepresenting Trump’s comments about purposely slowing testing for COVID-19, saying his own words were “one of those media hit jobs” and claiming, “The president was joking there.”
In the middle of the summer surge of cases in Florida, Siegel praised Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ approach during a segment about DeSantis’ refusal to roll back statewide reopening measures, calling him “inspiring.”
Siegel pushed Trump campaign talking points falsely labeling Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris as “anti-vaxx,” ignoring that the Trump administration has been undermining scientists in the federal government while promising a viable vaccine by Election Day, which is fueling skepticism toward the president’s claims.
On August 6, Siegel spun Trump’s falsehoods on the risk of coronavirus to children on one of Fox’s “straight news” shows: “I can’t interpret” what Trump meant when he said children are “almost immune” from coronavirus.
A week later, Siegel described Biden’s proposed mask mandate as “the politics of fear: big government edition.”

Siegel’s punditry has contradicted and undermined health experts

Siegel attacked New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio for using mathematical models to plan for coronavirus needs.
Siegel claimed that because COVID tests are not 100% reliable, “If you test people in areas where there are not a lot of virus, Brian, you’re going to get a false result. You’re going to think it’s negative and it really may not be. So testing can be part of the strategy, but it can’t be the whole strategy. ... There’s huge collateral damage -- huge collateral damage in terms of suffering and death -- if we don’t consider the economy here.”
On May 19, Siegel made a direct appeal to Trump to refuse funding to the World Health Organization during the pandemic unless there is a “huge overhaul” at the public health institution.
Siegel said epidemiological modeling is “guesswork” and should not be used to make decisions about mitigating the spread of the virus, claiming, “They're not based on real numbers.” Siegel’s comment set Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade up to spread even more coronavirus misinformation, saying, “We've shut down an entire country for 0.3% of those who get it lose their lives. “
After Siegel praised a discredited Chinese virologist’s “great credentials” and said he is “very willing to listen very carefully,” President Trump retweeted a QAnon account which posted the interview along with the caption: “Dr Siegel is so pissed off he threw Fauci under the bus with the Chinese! Holy crap! #TheMoreYouKnow”
13407610, Trump gotta be really sick, dead or is faking the whole thing
Posted by flipnile, Fri Oct-09-20 10:58 AM
Those green screen video look suspect-as-hell. I'mma need dude to start saying the day, month and year every in all of his videos. He could've recorded those weeks/months ago.
13407613, That video wasn't green screen, it was long lens and outdoors
Posted by MEAT, Fri Oct-09-20 11:04 AM
Hopefully to protect whatever film crew was mandated to work with him
13407655, As if him simply saying a date would make it trustworthy
Posted by sectachrome86, Fri Oct-09-20 01:21 PM
I'm gonna need him to hold up todays copy of the Failing New York Times for everyone to see
13407618, it says a lot that trump is going on a media blitz on fox news
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-09-20 11:18 AM
in the home stretch of an election where he badly needs to persuade voters outside his base.

it shows theyre seeing cracks in his base and they feel they need to shore them up to even have a chance.
13407639, I do love it when you post like disssss
Posted by Bambino Grande, Fri Oct-09-20 12:07 PM
13407657, He's slipping with old white folks in Florida
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Oct-09-20 01:38 PM
In videos talking about: "Hey seniors. You're my favorite people. I'm old too. I'm going to give you my top secret super medicine for free"
13407661, yup but not only that
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-09-20 01:54 PM
this entire media run (he was just on rush limbaugh for 2 hours too) is built to convince repub voters that he is perfectly healthy.

in polls that ran over the course of like a week...he was already doing shitty. but there was an even more pronounced gap in the segment of the polling that took place after his covid hospitalization.

so repubs are obviously spooked about the effect that had on some voters they should already have locked up by now.
13407738, So none of these fuckers are going to die?????
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Sat Oct-10-20 05:59 PM
....i dont think ive been this disappointed since the 2015 world series.



13407741, Herman Cain timeline...
Posted by soulfunk, Sat Oct-10-20 06:50 PM
6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies

Someone from that event will likely end up on the same timeline...
13408527, he was in the hospital majority of the time, not 45
Posted by Allah, Thu Oct-15-20 08:57 PM
45 must have got the kinder gentler mutation THIS TIME.
13407746, RE: So none of these fuckers are going to die?????
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-10-20 08:18 PM
>....i dont think ive been this disappointed since the 2015
>world series.


The 2016 election?
13407747, Trump wanted to wear a Superman shirt under his suit https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1315048023416807426?s=21
Posted by Amritsar, Sat Oct-10-20 08:35 PM
https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1315048023416807426?s=21


First appearing frail and then he wanted to rip off the button down to reveal thAt S on his chest lmao


13408227, this nigga infected his own son.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-14-20 03:03 PM
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1316469180179283968
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Melania Trump announces Barron Trump had coronavirus but is now negative.
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13408230, You think trump interacts with Barron or even hugs that boy?!
Posted by calij81, Wed Oct-14-20 03:21 PM
Barron probably got it from his mom.
13408233, either that or someone from the wh housekeeping staff.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-14-20 03:27 PM
they stopped reporting the covid positives of everyone working in the wh.
13408243, she hugged him when he was having Kathy Griffin nightmares again
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Oct-14-20 03:53 PM
its ok littel Varon
13408519, why that let him out the house, lol
Posted by Trinity444, Thu Oct-15-20 07:36 PM
he’s about to blow...