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13401896, Your personally most disappointing Trump supporter(s)?
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 11:26 AM
Could be your family member, or Kanye, your friend from way back, co-worker, entertainer, athlete, whoever.

but who just made you say "Damn, you too?" or just bummed you the fuck out?
13401897, my dad
Posted by fontgangsta, Mon Aug-31-20 11:37 AM
hes always been a republican - but what really disappoints me is that I know he can spot a bullshitter a mile away. So the fact that he's willing to ignore those instincts to support a conman really bums me out. Like, i dont know how he can listen to trump answer a question - literally any question - and not admit that he's entirely full of it and doesn't know shit about shit.
13401939, yikes
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 02:08 PM
i know more than enough trump people but no one *that* close to me.

i'm 100% certain my uncle is one but we haven't talked in 10 years and he's a fucking moron
13413377, RE: my dad
Posted by rzaroch36, Tue Nov-10-20 09:31 PM
Same here. It’s dissapointing but I have accepted it. He first gen mex/american too. I cut off my brother over trump stuff but can’t cut off pops.plus my brother literally said “i agree with 99% of what ben shapiro says” yikes
13401899, Luckily no one in my immediate family or friend circle is one
Posted by walihorse, Mon Aug-31-20 11:44 AM
My neighbor is and we've had a frank conversation about, but he is too concerned about socialism to not vote for Trump.
13401941, can't see how the socialism thing plays against Biden
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 02:11 PM
at least with anyone who's not firmly dug in

i could see why they tried to use it on Obama because he was relatively new. If it were Bernie it would literally be all we were hearing about.
13402105, My theory as too why neighbor thinks that, code for race
Posted by walihorse, Tue Sep-01-20 01:52 PM
I'm Hispanic and he told me in one conversation. I don't want illegals coming and killing cops.

I told him, I don't want that shit ether, same way I don't want cops killing black men. I told him, I was illegal also and became a citizen in 2006. This story of immigrants killing cops doesn't happen like news outlets like Foxnew would have you believe.

He heard me, but I doubt he listened.
13402115, yeah its what a lot of it comes down to
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Sep-01-20 02:09 PM
"illegals coming in and killing cops" is pretty baseless, but these people will find some article where it happened and make it seem like it's some widespread phenomenon when its statistically all but non-existent.

there are people i know who either they or their fam came from socialist countries who legit fear socialism, and while they may be using the worst examples (venezuela vs denmark) as their basis, i can at least understand their concern on some level. Then there are those like your neighbor where 'socialism' it's just an all encompassing buzz word for everything they're scared of, which is mainly darker people.




>I'm Hispanic and he told me in one conversation. I don't want
>illegals coming and killing cops.
>
>I told him, I don't want that shit ether, same way I don't
>want cops killing black men. I told him, I was illegal also
>and became a citizen in 2006. This story of immigrants killing
>cops doesn't happen like news outlets like Foxnew would have
>you believe.
>
>He heard me, but I doubt he listened.
13401900, Tim Scott
Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-31-20 11:47 AM
13402653, ...But He's A Black Republican, That's A Given, Shouldn't Be Surprised
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Sat Sep-05-20 12:03 AM
I'm not surprised one bit about Tim Scott being a t.rump supporter, he's just like those "Blacks For T.rump" family (which we haven't seen in a year since various reporters did interviews with them to see how they end up attending all of t.rump's rallys for three years).


13402759, I'm disappointed, not surprised.
Posted by MEAT, Sun Sep-06-20 09:11 PM
At a certain point protecting humanity has to outweigh job preservation, particularly when someone is rich.
As a Black man, it would be the easiest for him to "turncoat" on a political party given the stakes.
That he's not, and instead doubling down shows the degree that he does not care about the country, world, or even Black people specifically.
13405810, RE: I'm disappointed, not surprised.
Posted by MEAT, Wed Sep-30-20 11:32 AM
Reporter: “Do you find that concerning, the president's refusal last night during the debate to condemn white supremacist groups?"

Sen. Tim Scott: “I think he misspoke. I think he should correct it. If he doesn't correct it, I guess he didn't misspeak."

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1311333264313978886


This man cares more about his job than his people.
13413258, November 10th: "If there is a Biden administration, I think there is an opportunity for us to continue to work on things like police reform, opportunity zones."
Posted by MEAT, Tue Nov-10-20 12:39 PM
.@SenatorTimScott
: "If there is a Biden administration, I think there is an opportunity for us to continue to work on things like police reform, opportunity zones."

"There are so many examples of a synergy between the two pieces of legislation."


https://twitter.com/thedispatch/status/1326200012594950151


He's shamelessly irresponsible.
13431421, Base
Posted by MEAT, Thu Apr-29-21 08:02 PM
13431424, Yea
Posted by Brew, Thu Apr-29-21 10:42 PM
13401901, For now, an old friend
Posted by Walleye, Mon Aug-31-20 11:55 AM
He's always been pretty conservative, but the sort of mid-00's-looking-back-to-Buckley style of seeing the conservative movement as a lonely but crucial intellectual pursuit.

That was pretty dumb, but it's a political position that's actually been pretty alienated from power since Dubya so it's been awhile since I viewed his politics as anything but kind of embarrassing. And those are the sort of guys who have mostly profiled as never-Trumpers. But Trump is in charge and that means there is power to be distributed, which means there will be bootlickers lining up.

It worked too, old friend got appointed to a (very minor, largely symbolic) political position back in March or April. Two year term, gets to visit DC once and awhile so avoiding him is going to be more difficult.

Beyond that? Like 90% of white MLB players are from the suburbs of Texas, Florida, or California, so I've been rigorously avoiding finding out anything about their politics. Outside of Max Kepler's nod to blue lives matter, which he delightfully backtracked from, I've been mostly successful. Helps that the Twins are less white than they used to be. Not real worried about Byron Buxton showing up in a MAGA hat for batting practice.

If Trump wins, I assume it's going to be much more common in 2022-2023 for people to publicly express their support. People make "that's just the way it works" adjustments to authoritarianism pretty quickly, and if this election ends up being primarily about the future of the suburbs (which seems to be where both candidates want to pitch this thing) then there's going to be a lot of people who are grateful to whoever wins the election for making things less scary for them. So there may be some really ugly answers to this question in a few years.
13401902, My cousin.
Posted by JFrost1117, Mon Aug-31-20 12:00 PM
Not that I thought she was hella smart but she lost me on FB tombout “the Bible says we have to respect and follow our leaders”.

I’m rarely the “argue on the internet” dude but I’m not accepting “we have to respect Trump” when he doesn’t respect anyone in general, but definitely not anyone that looks like me.
13401905, I hate that "respect the office" line so fucking much
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 12:07 PM
the birther thing alone should negate that.

13401903, most recently is probably Jack Del Rio
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 12:04 PM
like i'm by no means shocked he's a Trump guy, but i guess it's the type of Trump guy he is. Dude's gone baby James Woods on Twitter. outraging at blatantly fake AOC tweets, and sharing things about how Fauci should be locked up.

I legit felt bad for him when the Raiders fired him. Now i feel bad about feeling bad.
13401923, I'm shocked when football coaches aren't hard core Trumpers
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Aug-31-20 01:29 PM
.
13401932, I was legit shocked by Sean Payton
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 01:38 PM
being seemingly anti-trump.

then i saw some video from a couple years back talking about how we need gun control.

he looks like your standard pissed off white man.
13401904, a cousin who is a damn cardiologist
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Aug-31-20 12:07 PM
he's one o those Vote Red No Matter What folks


wants to keep all the bread -- its tough because he comes from a self made background. Parents worked blue collar while he was getting his MD.



still very disappointing when you see someone in the medical profession espousing that b.s.
13401911, "self made" types can be more insufferable than those born on 3rd base
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 12:44 PM
like even if they busted their ass and climbed the food chain, the unwillingness to admit how much of their situation is still based on sheer luck and the right things falling into place, but there's a mindset that anyone who didn't get there is just lazy and lacking in determination.

Thinking they fully understand struggle because they ate top ramen in college.
13401919, this is how some of my poker buddies are
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Aug-31-20 01:11 PM

>wants to keep all the bread -- its tough because he comes from
>a self made background. Parents worked blue collar while he
>was getting his MD.
>

and these are folks repping BLM, going to protests and shit. to the point where its like "hold up yall know trump is a piece of shit, stoking the flames of racial animus, and yall vote for him just because it keeps a little more money in your pocket than a democrat??? aight well deal em out then i'll relieve yall of your extra pocket change"
13401909, As a former Christian... I have (had) a lot of those.
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Aug-31-20 12:37 PM
Pretty much everyone from my former church "family" support Trump.

With very few exceptions, I cut ties with all of them. So much of their ideology became much more pronounced after he was elected. Of that group, I'd say two of my former youth pastors are the most disappointing, because I maintained close relationships with them all through my adulthood.

One, I thought I could be that voice of reason to him, but it became clear that he- as his family- are who they are, and there's just no changing them. My last convo with him, was him doing some "well would you think it was so bad if the cop were brown and those women were white?" in response to a cop asking two Hispanic women in Idaho for their papers, because they were speaking Spanish.

I realized that this is just who he is. People can change, but these conservative christian Trump types are a tall order, and I'm certainly done trying to be that agent for these people.

I used to be close to one of his daughters, and she always had a more progressive view on things over the years. I saw her losing her shit about JLo's SB party on FB, and we had a phone discussion about it.

During the call, she started lamenting about how Trump was bringing god and morality back to the country, and at one point in the discussion, she said something to the effect of "and the homosexuals, don't get me started on those people.... they can do what they want but don't push it on my children".

That was the last conversation we had.

Looking back on most of them, there were plenty of signs over the years, but I always ratioalized those relationships. They were there for me in a lot of ways through my teenage and young adult years, I could provide a counterpoint to their thinking, etc. But Trump, somehow, seems to have inspired a more aggressive attitude with them.

Conversely, the circle I developed outside of the church has very few Trump supporters, but a fair number of them are pulling this "both sides are just as bad" bullshit, which is nearly as disappointing.
13401914, i have too many of these as well
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 12:56 PM
Some were bernie heads, some are just know-nothing-know-it-alls, some have always been apolitical and trot out their not voting as some kind of badge of honor. it's pretty disheartening though. You'd think covid alone would have killed some of it but nah.

>Conversely, the circle I developed outside of the church has
>very few Trump supporters, but a fair number of them are
>pulling this "both sides are just as bad" bullshit, which is
>nearly as disappointing.
13401916, and how well this guy has maintained christians and the military
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 01:08 PM
will forever fascinate and frustrate me.

I suppose its the simple-simon kinda Sara Palinish ways of his messaging. there are a thousand red flags that he has zero respect for either, but somehow his lip service is enough for them because the other side wants to burn the flag and kill babies.

he's the perfect messenger for these I dare you to copy and paste the pledge of allegiance on facebook types.
13401925, For me, it makes perfect sense that Christians would embrace him.
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Aug-31-20 01:31 PM
I used to think this was baffling, but thinking about it now?

This makes perfect sense.

He helps them legitimize and rationalize their hate.

It doesn't matter that he doesn't actually give half a fuck about them; what matters to them is that he hates the right people and the right causes.

Anecdotally, I think that the indoctrination that comes with Christianity is exactly what makes it easy for them overlook the myriad red flags showing that he doesn't give a fuck about them.

I think this, because to be a Christian means to rationalize or flat out ignore an absurd amount of things in the bible that most of them wouldn't actually support in real life. It's a book that champions the idea of being willing to kill your baby if you think god told you do so, yet most Christians would object to someone if they said they received such a commandment from god today.

It's a book that provides a how-to guide for how and where to obtain slaves, and how badly you're allowed to treat them, yet your average Christian would either dismiss this for being old testament and/or simply a product of the times, lean into one of a small handful of stock apologetics, or lean into the red herring that Christians were instrumental to abolition.

I can go on.

I think the very same mental gymnastics that allow people to accept christianity in spite of so many obvious moral failure and accept an obvious mythology as some sort of true historical fact, are the same mental gymnastics they use to justify support trump.
13401938, yeah you see that dynamic play out on a lot of levels
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 02:04 PM
not just with trumpsters. if you tell yourself the other side is evil, your personal value system (or what you've convinced yourself it is) goes out the window

13401942, For sure. I think we're all guilty of it to varying degrees.
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Aug-31-20 02:20 PM
I just think it's a particularly noteworthy- and glaring- in the overlap between Trump people and conservative Christians, because the things being overlooked are very significant.

I don't think that, in our day to day lives, most people are ignoring that volume of that level of awfulness, particularly in ways that are so directly and consistently at odds.

In this case, they're not only overlooking all these elements of their holy book, just as they're overlooking all these elements of their "guy".

They're also overlooking the "positive" morality of their religion, in order to support a guy who caters to the negative elements of the morality of their religion, as well as their sociopolitical worldview- which they hold at odds with some of the more positive aspects of their religion.

So, while we all experience some of this cognitive dissonance, I think there's a level of that relationship between Trump and conservatives that go well beyond what most of us experience in our day to day lives.


13401944, damn, well said
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 02:24 PM
>I just think it's a particularly noteworthy- and glaring- in
>the overlap between Trump people and conservative Christians,
>because the things being overlooked are very significant.
>
>I don't think that, in our day to day lives, most people are
>ignoring that volume of that level of awfulness, particularly
>in ways that are so directly and consistently at odds.
>
>In this case, they're not only overlooking all these elements
>of their holy book, just as they're overlooking all these
>elements of their "guy".
>
>They're also overlooking the "positive" morality of their
>religion, in order to support a guy who caters to the negative
>elements of the morality of their religion, as well as their
>sociopolitical worldview- which they hold at odds with some of
>the more positive aspects of their religion.
>
>So, while we all experience some of this cognitive dissonance,
>I think there's a level of that relationship between Trump and
>conservatives that go well beyond what most of us experience
>in our day to day lives.
13401957, white Christians have been using the Bible to justify racism..
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-31-20 03:22 PM
in America since the country was founded
13401958, I agree, but that's not the point that I'm making
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Aug-31-20 03:46 PM
That's a piece of it for sure, but just as a surface level example.

It's not just that the bible is used justify slavery. It's that the support of slavery is entirely consistent with biblical teaching.

Christianity has been, and currently is, used to propagate all kinds of awful shit. Problem is, Christianity as a whole- as well as pretty much every other major religion- relies heavily on logical fallacies, magical thinking, and faith.

Religion is already shaky footing, and it gets worse once we apply science and critical thinking.

You have to disregard facts in favor of faith and dismiss critical thinking in favor of compliance, in order to accept most of this to begin with.

Most Christians can now accept that slavery is immoral, but that's because our collective moral compass has improved, not because it's in conflict with their holy book.

And those Christians who use the bible to justify slavery, while unarguably immoral, are entirely consistent with the book. Those who don't use the the bible to justify slavery, have simply compartmentalized an element of the book that is absolutely at odds with their own moral compass.

My point is, in terms of Trump, the same sort indoctrination that makes people willing to ignore objective facts, sound science, and even their own moral compass, in order to justify this vague "spiritual" thing in their heart that they just know that they know that they know, is the same indoctrination that allows them to ignore all the obvious signs that Trump is simply using them as a means to occupy the office of the presidency, and doesn't at all give half a fuck about them or their god.
13401962, fwiw the military has been turning on trump before evangelicals have.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Aug-31-20 03:58 PM
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1300450173492002823
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Military Times poll: Joe Biden leads Trump by six points among the troops, 43-37.

In October 2016, Trump led Hillary by 20 points in the same poll.

Trump's favorability among the troops is now at -12, the worst of his presidency.

https://t.co/uOuAMbBGRM?amp=1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egwgic_XcAMjoWH?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgwgimjXYAcqe3n?format=jpg&name=900x900
-----


just to put in context how crazy it is for active duty military to view a republican incumbent as unfavorable and also prefer a dem challenger...george w bush maintained a *60%* approval rating with active duty military well into *2008* even when the iraq/afghanistan wars had gone to shit.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/military-times-poll-suppo_n_13174
13402589, that Atlantic article is getting a lot of play today
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Sep-04-20 02:16 PM
but i'm not sure it moves everything, since while i believe it's likely accurate, it's alot of "according to 3 people who were in the room", so of course he's gonna deny which he'd do even if sources came forward. But even most people blowing this off as slander either believe, or at the very least suspect it's probably true.
13402593, doesnt help that he decided to cancel publication of stars and stripes
Posted by Reeq, Fri Sep-04-20 02:41 PM
at the same time hes trying to convince people he absolutely loves the military.

i like how he denied ever calling john mccain a loser
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1301710818267074560
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1301710819349204992

when he himself tweeted out a link to a story about him calling mccain a loser
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/622522682245033984

and he was on video doing the shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=UNugcPeCZZE
13402600, dude already backtracked off the stars and stripes cancellation.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Sep-04-20 03:19 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1301968873487564802

13402601, fox news itself is now confirming the story.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Sep-04-20 03:20 PM
https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1301972236790886402

guess he still got oann.
13401915, Don't know *any* Trump supporters personally
Posted by flipnile, Mon Aug-31-20 01:07 PM
Only Democrat supporter and people that dislike all politics (like me).

I live in a very liberal neighborhood in a liberal city in a liberal region of the US tho.
13401920, I'm not personal friends with any that I know
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Aug-31-20 01:19 PM
The one family member that I know about is batshit insane, so it doesn't disappoint or surprise me.

Truthfully, most are the sports personalities (all the actors/entertainers who've endorsed him are well-known shit-heads). So it sucked when it came out that Kevin McHale was at a rally a few years back. Or that Daryl Strawberry was apparently in the audience for Drumf's RNC rally on Thursday.
13401921, Darryl Strawberry....
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Mon Aug-31-20 01:26 PM
...Favorite Athlete of all time next to Patrick Ewing & Lawrence Taylor ...found out Straw was at the RNC the other night cheering on trump

FUCK DARRYL STRAWBERRY.. HE IS DEAD ME.





13401935, Only explanation I can think of is the Queens connection
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Aug-31-20 01:59 PM
Drumf probably tried to glom on to the Mets during their '86 run.

Still very disappointing.
13413395, he's a born-again Christian and became a pastor
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue Nov-10-20 11:22 PM
I would say I was disappointed, but I'm used to Darryl disappointing me.

13401927, A few friends from high school nm
Posted by vik, Mon Aug-31-20 01:32 PM
13401933, Personally.. none
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-31-20 01:55 PM
My wife had a good friend. White gay dude from back in the day who called her up to tell her he was finally voting for the first time in his life... for Trump. She hasn’t spoken to him since. Lmao.

Personally tho.. I think my biggest disappointment is the woke people who aren’t voting at all.. “because we need to build our own as Black people”

Those types I consider Trump fans because they are okay with him winning.

13401940, these are the folks that infuriate me
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Aug-31-20 02:10 PM

>
>Personally tho.. I think my biggest disappointment is the woke
>people who aren’t voting at all.. “because we need to
>build our own as Black people”
>
>Those types I consider Trump fans because they are okay with
>him winning.
>
13401937, maaaan...my coworker
Posted by mikediggz, Mon Aug-31-20 02:00 PM
good solid brother...bit of a hellraiser but its all good...whole thing started out (i felt like) as a joke...the nigga was trollin us with all of his sudden pro trump nonsense when trump was campaigning...but the shit never stopped and he ended up voting for the nigga smh. now we just avoid politics
13401960, my boss...
Posted by Trinity444, Mon Aug-31-20 03:55 PM
he’s hardcore too
mugs, dolls...

I’m uncomfortable around him...
13401965, lol dolls
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 04:17 PM
the fandom is the weirdest shit i swear

dude was signing autographs at the hurricane site yesterday like he was at comic con

>he’s hardcore too
>mugs, dolls...
>
>I’m uncomfortable around him...
13402027, a life size poster too...
Posted by Trinity444, Tue Sep-01-20 10:00 AM
and he keep the office tv on Fox News.
thank God I work from home...









13401966, Pretty much all the 45 supporters I know are white...
Posted by Marbles, Mon Aug-31-20 04:30 PM

I don't personally know any black people who support him.

A Mexican cat we used to run with in high school is the only person of color that I can think of who is openly & enthusiastically supporting 45.

Some of the white folks don't surprise me. Some are nutso evangelicals, some are the flag-waving, NASCAR-watching types.

But there are some who support 45 strictly because his policies benefit them financially. Like I always say, I understand greed so I get that. But they're way too quiet on the social issues for my liking. I'd respect them just a little more if they said, "He's terrible human being and he's a huge bigot but he's keeping my pockets tight."
13401968, mixed bag for me
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 04:42 PM
co-workers who support him are all white. All male and older. I can't think of any women or younger white co-workers of either gender who do (that i'm aware of)

i know quite a few mexicans who do. by no means a majority but maybe 1 in 10.

one of my exes is Filipina and married to a Black man. She's probably the first person i know who was on the trump train the second he announced. She unfriended me over the Kaep thing lol.

Then more white people from my past and present. Most came as no surprise but a couple really bummed me out.

i can't think of any black people i know personally who outright support him, but a few 'both sides suck'/voting doesn't matter types.
13401997, I guess I personally know two Drumf supporters
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Aug-31-20 10:21 PM
One is Black woman. A Drumf supporting Black Woman in the Bay Area has got to be the rarest species of human possible. She's a religious nutbag, but that still doesn't make it make sense.

The other is a white guy with Down Syndrome. Just going to leave it at that.
13401998, if you narrow it down to religious nutbag
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Aug-31-20 10:50 PM
it's not that rare.

my "new" cousin was adopted by very religious folks and shares tons of right wing shit on facebook, if she's not a trumper I don't know how

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13401970, There’s an app called “vote with me”
Posted by sersey, Mon Aug-31-20 04:56 PM
It’s designed to keep you informed about elections being held in your community. But I love using that shit for the contacts sync. It takes the cell numbers in your Phones contact list and bounces it against the registered voter scrolls and essentially tells you how all of your contacts are registered In your state (R,D, I) and how they voted in the last 10 elections.

I spent an hour the other day going through my contacts and was genuinely shocked about how wrong I was about how certain people identified politically.

It’s a good drinking game if u wanna get shtifaced guessing how your Boss, Vet, landscaper, pool cleaner, coworker, kids teacher, etc., line up politically.

You think you know, but you never really know.
13401973, seems pretty creepy tbh
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 05:12 PM
13402004, My first reaction was this is invasive, but honestly this is awesome.
Posted by Brotha Sun, Tue Sep-01-20 08:12 AM
We're expected not to talk about our politics with coworkers and friends for the same reason we're expected not to talk about our wages/salaries at work. Its harder to organize when there's no transparency and us being on the same page is just assumed.
13402021, NOPE. I already have trust issues and think the world is trash.
Posted by double negative, Tue Sep-01-20 09:22 AM
I don't need to draw lines in the sand.

if we friends and we get along I'm not ready to upset my world view.
13401976, I'm more disappointed in the people who voted establishment democrat
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Mon Aug-31-20 05:24 PM
in the primaries of 2016/2020. (Clinton, Biden/Warren)
Disgusted
13401978, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoU_4nJUkAArGi3?format=jpg&name=small
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 05:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoU_4nJUkAArGi3?format=jpg&name=small
13401979, there are zero people in the world who care what you think of them
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Aug-31-20 05:48 PM
that's a thing you know.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13401980, Lmao at people bummed out at the white people from HS
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-31-20 06:00 PM
Y’all knew they wasn’t shit.

I wasn’t surprised one bit.

Only thing that surprised me is the Black people from home who were surprised and sad when they found out the people we went to HS ain’t shit.

13401985, I cut off a HS friend in 2008ish as she became pro Palin
Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-31-20 06:14 PM
Thought to myself “we ain’t good enough friends to withstand wherever her life is about to go”
I consider that one of many good life choices.
13401993, there are some folks I knew who have gone that way
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Aug-31-20 09:06 PM
none that I was ever close to.

one a guy a year older than me who was always an asshole, I'm glad to see all of his former friends now call him on his shit.

and while the chaldean cats I rocked with saw through the bullshit immediately, the one that I got in a fight with a million years ago, boom, called it. he's a trumper.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13401996, Oh, they been trash.
Posted by JFrost1117, Mon Aug-31-20 09:54 PM
I was like, you work at a gas station, Trump doesn’t give a shit about you.
13402005, I went home one time and a dude I played football with
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Sep-01-20 08:27 AM
hit me with the “in 10 years I’ll be on fries making the big bucks” with his job.

13402015, maybe its just me but i see a pretty big gender gap.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Sep-01-20 09:03 AM
i see white chicks from hs and college shouting down pro-trump posts all the time. or saying negative shit whenever they post a link or clip about him.

i seen a dudes daughter cuss him out for posting some blm mockery meme lol.
13402022, the biggest surprise was one of HS friends who's Puerto Rican.
Posted by double negative, Tue Sep-01-20 09:26 AM
I left facebook years ago, but, he was primed to become a Q supporting Trumper.

he was the type of cat to straight up call Obama a nigger, post Hillary images with targets superimpossed over her forehead...talk about lazy "you-know-who-I'm-talking-about-right?" Americans and how he worked hard for everything he got in life.

meanwhile

dude went to prison for fraud and is a deadbeat alcoholic dad
13401991, Kevin McHale for some reason. I'm not even a Boston fan
Posted by GOMEZ, Mon Aug-31-20 07:35 PM
but for some reason my brain has a hard time reconciling his classic 80's post game with support for Donald Trump.

The fact that an old white guy with a lot of money supported 45 isn't a shock, but just mad disappointing.




13401994, Bill Laimbeer is a republican but he hasn't said a word about it
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Aug-31-20 09:25 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13401995, Growing up a Laker fan I always hated that pigeon chest fuck
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Aug-31-20 09:31 PM
now it feels even more justified
13402094, Your response made me think of Chuck Woolery from the game show lol
Posted by mikediggz, Tue Sep-01-20 01:33 PM
Not for nothing but dude seemed like a pretty smooth laid back white cat back in the day so to know he’s all trumped out was an unexpected let down lol.
13402132, Chuck went full shitbird, but can you ever trust a game show host?
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Sep-01-20 03:09 PM
Alex Tribek is the only one that would surprise me.

The rest i just assume are all weasels.
13402134, Pat Sajak is a right wing twitter troll lol
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Sep-01-20 03:16 PM
13402135, maaaan growing up we watched his show religiously at the crib...
Posted by mikediggz, Tue Sep-01-20 03:21 PM
nigga was like part of the family. even now as a grownup i wasnt prepared for his change of heart...but u right they do kinda seem like glorified used car salesmen. maybe that was his stance all along he just dont GAF now
13402592, im still not convinced anyone i really care about supports him
Posted by mista k5, Fri Sep-04-20 02:40 PM
as ive posted, there are some that surprised me that they actually buy some of his trash. dont think they actually voted or will vote for him.

ones that im pretty sure or know that do support him are all work related. old boss/owner of the company. new boss and immediate coworkers. all their reasoning is about money but they sure repeat some of the dumb stuff his supporters usually do.
13402595, White people don't surprise me anymore
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Sep-04-20 03:01 PM
Some years ago when I was just existing in the world with average understanding of racism, there were some white associates who surprised me with some of their racist views. After all the experiences I've had, along with all the studying, no white person's racism surprises me... hell not even non-Black people "PoC". White people are maintaining a system of their own dominance. They don't wanna give that up... even the vast majority of the "cool" ones.

I sat here trying to think of a Black person who surprised me, but they all seem rather obvious or it makes sense given their past. With them, I'm more surprised when some of them aren't.

13402598, Thats where im at with it.
Posted by Brotha Sun, Fri Sep-04-20 03:10 PM
13402596, It's always weird that "Trump derangement syndrome" is attributed
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Sep-04-20 03:04 PM
to people who criticize him too much (or more than once)

but not to the people who rock Trump hats, Trump shirts, or drive down the street in trucks screaming TRUMP while waving giant Trump flags.

or even your "Look i don't like everything he says but" friend who pops up like beetlejuice the second you mention his name to find any rationale to defend him, with an actually.. or whatabout..

or people who are willing to literally risk their (and their loved ones) lives because Trump doesn't wear a mask

or established people in government who are willing to toss their entire reputations to fall in line behind him

all for someone who could give two shits about them
13402731, My Uncle
Posted by Mafamaticks, Sun Sep-06-20 10:13 AM
Dude went from critical Democrat to one of those "I'll vote for Trump before I vote for Biden" niggas all because he's caught up in the Facebook misinformation campaign.

He spends all day arguing with randoms on Facebook.
13402760, When I click on a name of some random Trump supporter
Posted by legsdiamond, Sun Sep-06-20 10:15 PM
who talks shit to a friend of mine..

and all their post are political or videos of them talking to the camera.

Fucking nuts.
13402751, thankfully no one I really know...
Posted by sosumi, Sun Sep-06-20 04:47 PM
job is all liberals/progressives, somewhat performative

family and friends are moderate, mostly due to location

but on the express public transportation I took home before the pandemic, a few regulars that would head nod me and sit in in the area where I sat proceeded to stream fox news all the way home...
13402903, My favorite aunt. I'm so sad..i heard she goes to rallies too
Posted by Damali, Wed Sep-09-20 08:50 AM
13413305, Im in Florida rn meeting my gf family for the 1st time
Posted by Cenario, Tue Nov-10-20 03:00 PM
So all of them. I been biting my tongue all week
13413307, Get out while you still can
Posted by T Reynolds, Tue Nov-10-20 03:03 PM
the state and / or the relationship

playing


but also kinda serious
13413330, Uh oh.. guess who’s coming to dinner?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Nov-10-20 03:41 PM
13413729, Interesting timing to take a trip to Florida
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Nov-13-20 02:00 PM
on about three levels.

Good luck down there.
13413733, *Prayer hands emoji* that's rough, man
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Nov-13-20 02:17 PM
13431442, you didn't know? she didn't warn you? that is some Get Out shit
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Apr-30-21 09:48 AM
13413390, Found one
Posted by walihorse, Tue Nov-10-20 10:19 PM
My cousin's wife. We grew up together in Camden. He as far as I know is not a trumpster, but his wife it seems grew up conservative.

On my Joe Biden celebration post, she came in and said. He is the projected winner. he hasn't won yet.

I responded and was Civil, but damn that sucks. I hope it doesn't mess up the relationship I've had with my cousin.
13413710, I don’t know any personally but when I see friends in FB
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-13-20 11:57 AM
who have Trump supporting Black friends.. lmao. That shit is sad af.

One dude said his Christianity taught him he shouldn’t be forced to help the less fortunate who don’t work as hard as him.

Huh? That’s pretty much the opposite of Christianity but yeah... ok.
13413724, oh that's definitely "christianity"
Posted by The3rdOne, Fri Nov-13-20 01:29 PM
but not at all the teachings of christ. two different things.
13413727, Christianity isn't confined to the teachings of christ.
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Nov-13-20 01:57 PM
Considering Matthew 5:17-19,

"17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

So if you believe in it, ALL that shit is valid, not just the words he says.

2 Thessalonians chapter 3:10

"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

You don't get to confine the "valid" beliefs of the religion solely to the words of one person within that religions holy book. So yeah, if you buy into this, if a man doesn't work... he can fucking starve.

Of course, that doesn't jive with other parts, which is a huge problem that goes to the heart of it's validity. The problem is that it's largely a work of fiction.

The bible is a "choose your own adventure" book, and it requires all manner of gymnastics and apologetics to disregard the countless moral failures that don't quite mesh with personal moral standards.

The same way those people can lean into this verse to justify not helping the poor, others can lean into James 1:27, telling you that pure religion is to visit the orphaned and widowed, or Matthew 19:21, telling you to sell all your earthly belongings.

The way you do that? You simply disregard the parts that are inconvenient.

You know, like Exodus 21, which is a literal instruction manual on how to obtain slaves, treat them, and how to work around the rules in order to keep your Hebrew indentures servants... or, for all those "pro life" folks, Numbers 5:11, which is an instruction manual on how to induce miscarriage in your wife, if you believe she's committed adultery.

All you have to do is ignore all that vile shit, and focus squarely on the warm, fuzzy parts that sound good and comport with our collective morality, in reality.

That works in much the same way as you can look at your income, ignore all your expenses and debts, in order to pretend that you have more in your bank account has a higher balance than it actually does.
13413732, I don't think modern christians would appreciate his honesty
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Nov-13-20 02:12 PM
he's supposed to talk about fishing lessons or something.

>One dude said his Christianity taught him he shouldn’t be
>forced to help the less fortunate who don’t work as hard as
>him.
13413734, Yeah... he showed his whole ass with that post.
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-13-20 02:19 PM
13413739, Reminds me of that Colbert Report quote
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Nov-13-20 02:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyln-yReNv8
13413726, besides some family members and friends - Fatlip from the Pharcyde
Posted by rl9, Fri Nov-13-20 01:42 PM
it just seemed weird at first but then it kinda makes sense too lol.

all of the above get part of their news from some BS conspiracy sites and youtube.



13413751, what?
Posted by will_5198, Fri Nov-13-20 04:44 PM
oh man, I could have lived without this news :/
13413774, LA, we need to do better
Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Nov-13-20 06:19 PM
:(
13431427, I’ve been wearing out the snooze/mute feature on FB.
Posted by JFrost1117, Fri Apr-30-21 12:08 AM
I don’t give anyone the satisfaction of fully unfriending/unfollowing but some goofy, off base fuckshit is not gonna ruin my curated timeline of jokes and titties.
13431444, I had a neighbor who was a MD doing his residency that I thought was...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Apr-30-21 10:11 AM
>Could be your family member, or Kanye, your friend from way
>back, co-worker, entertainer, athlete, whoever.
>
>but who just made you say "Damn, you too?" or just bummed you
>the fuck out?

pretty smart and pretty cool, he moved away right around the time 45 was coming into to office and appeared to become more vocal about his support on social media. We have had some spirited discussions but generally leave it in the "agree to disagree" area before things get to crazy.

Most of my other conservative "friends" mostly from my military days either got unfriended during the Obama years or learned to keep their political opinions to themselves around me. But I like to keep a few on social media just to know how they think as long as they aren't too over the top.

I have one older cousin that I was close to growing up that is married to a white woman that is a hardcore trumper. I unfriended him on social media a while back and was never friends with her but apparently other family members are/were and say she is way off her rocker lol