I hate to admit it and obviously it isn't based on facts and honestly it give me Horton-y vibes and I hope for our sake this doesn't take off with the Trump crowd but yeah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOOlOMLaFho

and me clicking and thinking it would the one I eventually would post and being disappointed when wasn't lol.

AKA "If we defund the police then who's gonna stop all of the protestors who want to defund the police?"

One where an old lady is grabbed by a shadowy figure while she is on hold.

What crazy about this ad is all the people causing destruction are blonde and white.

>What crazy about this ad is all the people causing destruction
>are blonde and white.

That's the brilliant part. It shields them from accusations of racism but still conveys alot of the same messages.

He was on defense up to this point. And he had nothing to go on offense with. Immigration panic isn't going to play well this cycle. Any economic anxiety will be tied to him.

But then the slogan Defund the Police comes along and finally gives him some fear to latch on to.
He's losing ground with older folks and suburban women. Safety is one of their top concerns, and he's aiming these ads right at them.

Law and order is his only shot

I guess it's the protesters who gave trump the idea to run on THE EXACT THING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS BEEN RUNNING ON FOR 40 YEARS


MUST BE THE SLOGAN

y'all really need more people to tell you that you're not logicing well.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Trump ran on law and order in 2016 ("I am the law and order candidate").

I said Defund the Police gave a listless campaign something to grab onto.

smh

If this reminds you of the Willie Horton ad and you call this brilliant, that means you believe the Willie Horton ad was brilliant.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/us/politics/michigan-trump-biden-2020.html





https://cookpolitical.com/sites/default/files/2020-07/EC%20Ratings.072320.2.pdf

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>smh
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>If this reminds you of the Willie Horton ad and you call this
>brilliant, that means you believe the Willie Horton ad was
>brilliant.


Didn't that shit WORK though/the candidate running it won?

That's an effective Ad

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>Didn't that shit WORK though/the candidate running it won?
>
>That's an effective Ad


was Bush the incumbent with Covid 19 surging ?

Using racism to get racist votes is not brilliant.

She is not on the pulse.

Nixon was brilliant

David Duke brilliant

understand what it is I am very clearly saying (because it certainly is not that those two men are brilliant) OR if you understand it but have decided that trolling instead makes your day better.

Sad either way

horrible take after horrible take. Spend a little time reading replies 11, 15, 19, 20 in this thread.

Law and Order comes from Nixon, you can't separate racism from the past with racism to today and call it brilliant. That's what Trump's ad is racism, that's what the Willie Horton ad is racism. It's not hard to figure out, it's not clever, complex or brilliant. smh



>understand what it is I am very clearly saying (because it
>certainly is not that those two men are brilliant) OR if you
>understand it but have decided that trolling instead makes
>your day better.
>
>Sad either way

I'm not sure if you're saying racism can't be clever, but I think it's at least arguable that it's either brilliant or its opposition is really dumb to allow ourselves to be stuck in gender wars 155 yrs after the end of slavery.

>I'm not sure if you're saying racism can't be clever, but I
>think it's at least arguable that it's either brilliant or its
>opposition is really dumb to allow ourselves to be stuck in
>gender wars 155 yrs after the end of slavery.


Maybe the first time you see it, someone can call it clever but when it's year 155, I call the person who thinks it's brilliant, confused or in denial. Someone would have to be new to the world or sheltered and isolated to call that ad brilliant.

>Maybe the first time you see it, someone can call it clever
>but when it's year 155, I call the person who thinks it's
>brilliant, confused or in denial. Someone would have to be new
>to the world or sheltered and isolated to call that ad
>brilliant.
>


That's one view. At the same time, there are those who would say that the confused ones are those who think racism isn't clever. Either way tho, I'd like to suggest that attacking one another's level of intelligence based on whether or not racism is brilliant is far less important than showing some love and understanding to one another in the interest of combatting it.

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>That's one view. At the same time, there are those who would
>say that the confused ones are those who think racism isn't
>clever. Either way tho, I'd like to suggest that attacking one
>another's level of intelligence based on whether or not racism
>is brilliant is far less important than showing some love and
>understanding to one another in the interest of combatting
>it.
>

Even if it's considered clever, that label doesn't work when it's done over and over. Love and understanding is good, but it's a two way street. When someone starts attacking they can expect the same will be returned.

election is still pretty far out, most people haven't focused on it or heard this rhetoric or these ads and I am not sure what's going to happen when they blitz us with these ads constantly leading up to election day. Let these cats talk its already in the bag.

Defund the Police gives Trump his best shot at holding onto power, so that alone makes it a slogan we can do without.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I don't see this playing out well for us at polls. Most people outside of big cities have no idea how to function without law enforcement. This is not exclusive to white people.

BLM. It's been mainstreamed. Only people who are against it are racist.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The popular one in 2016 was someone running to get a gun off their dresser when they hear a noise in their home and it disappearing because Hillary came and took everyone's guns.

Same sh*t. Different toilet.

Democrats are soft on crime. They want to take your guns. They want to take your police. etc etc.

We sure which one this is?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

And relative to all the other shady dealings they have going on, I think this particular flavor of ad makes little difference one way or the other.

It also puts into context that the idea that "defunding the police" is what drives this sort of thing is incorrect. Every election from now until the end of democracy, they will find some reason to make this same ad. If they can't find one, they will make one up.

is oversaturated and exhausted in a short period of time. because he hammers it so hard and so frequently that eventually the reality/reporting just falls behind the expectation and fails to reiterate it.

even the caravan and open borders stuff was losing a bit of steam by the time the midterms rolled around because people eventually realized the hysteria wasnt on par with how events were really playing out.

i think we sometimes confuse a good trump attack for the only one he has available to him.

i wish he didnt have a lifeline at all...but that doesnt necessarily mean that the current lifeline is really effective.

plus its getting drowned out by the pandemic and the economy...which are the 2 biggest issues on everyones mind. sinclair media is running hit pieces on fauci and his pandemic response...not the crime/police stuff. which tells you everything you need to know.

i mean...you know shit is bad when trump is criticizing fox news for their *lack* of attention to it.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1287472054527197190

i was kinda bothered by them focusing so much on the 'defund the police' slogan and the debate around it...because i thought it elevated a potentially harmful narrative that trump/repubs were sure to capitalize on.

but what they really did was open the floor to a ton of people/discussion early on who were effective at fleshing out the concept of police reform and diffusing a lot of the confusion around the literal slogan.

has led to me personally learning a bunch of things I did not previously know, and I don't think I'm the only one

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

suburban and college educated whites (who the trump campaign is trying to target with this and the desegregation rule cut)...still heavily favor biden on crime/safety.
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1287762880318799874


and the fact that trumps troops are pulling out of portland and seattle reinforces that.

i think what this election is really showing is how hard is it for republicans to run against (and negatively define) another old white man.

its hard to find something that sticks when they dont have racism and sexism at their disposal.

all they really have right now is 'joe bidens america will look like donald trumps america' and 'joe biden isnt a socialist but the rest of his party is'.

https://twitter.com/TheEpicDept/status/1288820355960799233

conservatives getting blue pilled.

I'm sure he doesn't give a shit about 90% of BLM's platform but hey, if BLM catches a wave with "Defund the Police", he wants to be on the boogie board.

then that's enough lol

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

guess we got our answer.

https://twitter.com/MSN/status/1289001885421023234

how could it miss?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

and its their old strategy (they only have but so many cards they keep playing).

i saw a report on nbc news about how covid is leading to food shortages in latin american countries. which will of course drive another big wave of migration to our border.

these are not especially intelligent or creative people

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Oh, wait...

Where's the brilliance?