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13396101, Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by lightworks, Tue Jul-28-20 06:42 PM
A friend just asked me, based on a viral tweet, what 4 “important” albums that came out in high school were for me.
I present my list:
1. Fiona Apple’s “When The Pawn...”
2. Lauryn’s “Miseducation of Lauryn Hill”
3. Matchbox 20’s “Mad Season”
4. Erykah’s “Mama’s Gun”
Y’all?
(And yes for the record this could be based on albums that came out when you were in high school (which is what my list is based on) or albums that came out before you were in high school but that were still important to you while you were there.)
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13396102, Hmmm..... Posted by c71, Tue Jul-28-20 06:54 PM
Eric B & Rakim - follow the leader
Bold - speak out
Public Enemy - it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
EPMD - strictly business
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13396104, For me, personally.... Posted by Dstl1, Tue Jul-28-20 07:07 PM
all came out while I was in high school
P.E. - It Takes a Nation of Millions... De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising NWA - Straight Outta Compton ATCQ - Low End Theory
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13396113, Whew.. this takes me back Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jul-28-20 07:30 PM
PE - Takes a Nation if Million - I wore this out!!!
De La - 3 Ft High and Rising
Tribe - Peoples Instinctive Travels
Al B Sure - In Effect Mode
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13396201, That's a damn good call on Al B Sure. n/m Posted by Marbles, Wed Jul-29-20 09:49 AM
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13396116, In chronological order: Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-28-20 07:35 PM
1. Fear of a Black Planet 2. AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted 3. Mr. Hood 4. Mecca and the Soul Brother
I want to include De La is Dead and Low End Theory, because they're in my five favorite albums ever. But I played the above the most.
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13396118, I forgot about that Ice Cube Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jul-28-20 07:40 PM
so many good albums between 89-91 but I can’t include those dope albums that came out in May 91 because that was right before graduation.
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13396120, Odelay/Aquemeni/Doctor Octagon/Pauls Boutique Posted by Adwhizz, Tue Jul-28-20 07:44 PM
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13396129, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Jul-28-20 09:02 PM
3FT High & Rising One For All Low End Theory Mecca & The Soul Brother Stunts Blunts & Hip Hop
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13396131, Hmmm... Posted by Anonymous, Tue Jul-28-20 09:19 PM
Sept 96 - June 00
1 Aquemini - OutKast (1998) 2 Moment Of Truth - Gang Starr (1998) 3 Jewelz - O.C. (1997) 4 Like Water For Chocolate - Common (2000) 5 Voodoo - D’Angelo (2000)
Honorable Mentions 1 Illadelph Halflife The Roots (1996) 2 Black On Both Sides - Mos Def (1999) 3 Soul Survivor - Pete Rock (1998) 4 40 Dayz And 40 Nightz - Xzibit (1998) 5 Uptown Saturday Night - Camp Lo (1997)
Sorry...that’s more than 4
Honestly, my middle school years is where it’s at...Sept 93 - June 96...so many classics!
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13396136, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by DJR, Tue Jul-28-20 09:37 PM
Makaveli: 7 Day Theory Aquemini Things Fall Apart Like Water For Chocolate
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13396140, OK Computer / ATLiens / Baduizm / Illadelph Halflife Posted by Triptych, Tue Jul-28-20 10:48 PM
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13396142, ATLiens/ Baduizm/ Miseducation/ Let's Get Free Posted by CIPHA, Tue Jul-28-20 11:14 PM
I fought pretty hard with these:
Black Star Still Standing OK Computer Voodoo
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13396145, Notorious BIG - Ready To Die Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Tue Jul-28-20 11:32 PM
Nas - Illmatic Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
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13396153, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by jimaveli, Wed Jul-29-20 04:21 AM
Raekwon and Ghostface - Cuban Linx Snoop - Doggystyle Big - Ready to Die 2Pac - Me Against the world (hit me and my friends like 2 tons of bricks)
92 to 96. Man, Snoop was huge. It’s so difficult to try to get that point across to younger folks now!
I could probably pick 3 or 4 more four-packs but these are the first ones that came to me that felt right and led me to a bunch of other albums. This reminds me how regional folks once thought about rap music. Funny enough, Tupac was my bridge to really listen to more varied acts. I saw him as an east coast rapper who made stuff that everyone should like if they like rap music at all. I remember going around begging folks to give Wu, Big, Nas, and Mobb Deep a chance. I heard Cuban Linx for the first time via a dude from New Jersey (Don) bringing me a dub of it ON TAPE. I went and bought my own purple tape. That and Group Home, which I ran into the ground even tho I thought the rapping was shaky but the beats were too tight to ignore. I was willing to hear it cuz of Method Man’s Bring the pain and Cream. I heard infamous cuz somebody stole a stack of tapes from a store and gave that one away cuz he didn’t know who it was. I took it cuz I knew Survival of the Fittest from Rap City. Rap City got me to Illmatic too. I loved Tribe because of Bonita and Buddy remix but I didn’t hear their albums until CDs became easier to get from pawn shops for deep discounts (mid to late 90s).
I like my college set of albums even better than those.
>A friend just asked me, based on a viral tweet, what 4 >“important” albums that came out in high school were for >me. > >I present my list: > >1. Fiona Apple’s “When The Pawn...” > >2. Lauryn’s “Miseducation of Lauryn Hill” > >3. Matchbox 20’s “Mad Season” > >4. Erykah’s “Mama’s Gun” > >Y’all? > >(And yes for the record this could be based on albums that >came out when you were in high school (which is what my list >is based on) or albums that came out before you were in high >school but that were still important to you while you were >there.)
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13396156, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by ProgressiveSound, Wed Jul-29-20 06:21 AM
Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers Nas - Illmatic Mary J Blige - My Life / Dr Dre - The Chronic Mobb Deep - The Infamous
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13396157, For me Posted by MaxPtah, Wed Jul-29-20 07:01 AM
Three 6 Mafia - Mystic Styles - After putting out dope underground albums in the city for so long it was cool to see the hometown cats drop this on a national level
Makaveli - The Don Killuminat: The 7 Day Theory - Never was a Pac fan, but this album made me appreciate him and his catalog for what he was.
Gza - Liquid Swords - This solidified my Wu fandom. Loved Enter the 36, Tical, Return to the 36, and the OB4CL, but it was this album that made me the fan that I am today.
Tru - Tru 2 Da Game - I really didn't become a 'Kast fan until Aquemini dropped and I was out of high school and Ball and G's important album came out when I was in jr high, but I was deep into my Wu fandom by this time, but this was the only album that I would listen to other than any Wu offerings.
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13396159, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by Teknontheou, Wed Jul-29-20 07:13 AM
1. Enter The Wu-Tang
2. What's Going On
3. The Carnival
4. Best of Minnie Riperton
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13396181, ATAliens, Aquemini, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Can I Borrow A Dollar Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Jul-29-20 08:57 AM
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13396715, Just curious Posted by Anonymous, Thu Jul-30-20 05:43 PM
I’m assuming by Aquemini that you at least graduated in 98 which meant you were in high school from 94-98.
What made you go back to Can I Borrow A Dollar so much during that time when Resurrection and One Day has dropped.
Seems strange *shrugs*
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13396741, Don't wanna speak for the man but ... Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 09:48 PM
... when the OP said "most important" I kind of assumed he meant those albums that, while not necessarily your favorites, were impactful for you.
So to use myself as an example I included Aceyalone's "Book of Human Language" because it was kind of a stepping stone for me toward discovering the other music I ended up loving even more as the years went on.
So while it's not anywhere close to a *favorite* (I mean I really like it, but it ain't at that level), it was "important" to me because of what it led me to.
Make sense ? It does in my head lol.
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13396744, I get it but...I’m saying...Can I Borrow A Dollar? Posted by Anonymous, Thu Jul-30-20 10:07 PM
Just seems odd that someone would listen to that album years after it came out, after Resurrection and One Day came out and still connect with it to the point it was one of the most important albums for them...years after it dropped.
Not hatin’...just find it strange lol
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13396182, This is more of the "which ones do I like the most now." Posted by handle, Wed Jul-29-20 09:15 AM
1: Devo - Duty Now For the Future Never was a sound so "new wave, and brave."
2: Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill It was simple RUN DMC flows over a new type of music. Raising Hell could be swapped in for this - but I think this one had a bigger impact on me because it brought sarcasm and sampling.
3: Krafterk - Computer World Once I got this on CD it was over for me.
4: New Order: Substance Sure - it's a best of , but it covered a lot of ground.
I was in HS from 1984-1988 and during that time the musical world changed about 500 times.
We had radio stations that would play Devo followed by Lionel Richie. We had these bands releasing classics - all at the same time: madonna. The Smiths. New Oder. Soft Cell. The Talking Heads. Big Audio Dynamite. Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper. Whitney Houston. LL Cool J. Wham. Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Prince. Cameo. Public Enemy. Midnight Star.Kenny Loggins. Van Halen. Culture Club. Duran Duran. Hall and Oates. Stevie Wonder. The Cars. Whodini. Genesis. Kool and The Gang. R.E.M., New Edition. Depeche Mode. XTC. Peter Gabriel. Elvis Costello. The Cure. INXS. Fishbone. Dire Straits. Sting. OMD. Pet Shop Boys.
I could probably name 100 more - it was a crazy time for music.
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13396184, Thug Motivation 101, 36 Chambers, Madvillainy, Demon Days Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jul-29-20 09:18 AM
nobody said they had to all come out while we were in HS
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13396185, Low End Theory/Brown Sugar/36 Chambers/BlackStreet Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jul-29-20 09:21 AM
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13396190, yall kinda old Posted by mista k5, Wed Jul-29-20 09:31 AM
We Got it from Here To Pimp a Butterfly Damn. Flower Boy
siiike
Quality Control Vol 3. Lifes and Times Slim Shady LP Vol 2. Hard Knocks Life
these are the ones i remember listening to the most, probably never come back to any of those now. aquemini, things fall apart, mm lp and 2001 are honorable mentions. college is when i was really listening to the music that stuck with me, last year of hs i started discovering it.
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13396192, Good lord, I'm feeling my age in this post... Posted by Marbles, Wed Jul-29-20 09:34 AM
1. Public Enemy - Nation of Millions 2. Big Daddy Kane - It's A Big Daddy Thing 3. New Edition - Heartbreak 4. Troop - Attitude
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13396193, Aquemini, Stankonia, One in a Million, Shyne Posted by JFrost1117, Wed Jul-29-20 09:38 AM
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13396195, that shyne stayed in rotation Posted by mista k5, Wed Jul-29-20 09:40 AM
he was the next biggie!!! lol
it had some jams
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13396456, There were some heaters on there. Posted by JFrost1117, Wed Jul-29-20 11:52 PM
I still liked his random songs (I guess from NY mixtapes) a little better than what ended up on the album.
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13396200, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by Brew, Wed Jul-29-20 09:47 AM
Common - One Day It'll All Make Sense Aceyalone - Book of Human Language Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought JayZ - The Blueprint
Tons of honorable mentions but just a couple are: Lauryn Hill - Miseducation OutKast - Aquemini De La Soul - Stakes is High
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13396238, Blackstar, Enter the 36th Chambers, Santana, Things Fall Apart Posted by walihorse, Wed Jul-29-20 11:18 AM
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13396239, just tweeted this the other day. Posted by PROMO, Wed Jul-29-20 11:21 AM
https://twitter.com/PROMO206/status/1287636860735389701
in case you ain't click'd it doe:
(in no order)
Redman - Dare Iz A Darkside
Ice Cube - The Predator
Snoop - Doggystyle
Biggie - Ready To Die
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13396394, Outkast - ATLiens Posted by catalyst, Wed Jul-29-20 04:50 PM
Erykah Badu - Baduizm The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill Outkast - Aquemini
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13396396, Capital Punishment which brought me to TFA Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jul-29-20 04:54 PM
ATLiens CrazySexyCool
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
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13396402, Soundbombing 2, Art Of War, Things Fall Apart, Aquemeni Posted by Cold Truth, Wed Jul-29-20 05:09 PM
Top 4 is hard as fuck though. There's a couple I could swap out without much of a change in impact, but I think these are the overall top ones
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13396418, Art of War - Bone right? Posted by Anonymous, Wed Jul-29-20 06:52 PM
I always thought that album kinda got forgotten about.
Maybe people were over Bone at that point but at the time I remember thinking it was a dope double album.
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13396466, yessir. It's damn near sacred to most Bone fans I come across Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Jul-30-20 12:38 AM
>I always thought that album kinda got forgotten about. > >Maybe people were over Bone at that point but at the time I >remember thinking it was a dope double album.
It's dope, but there are some joints that I think only the die hards like, i.e, "Friends" probably doesn't hit outside guys like me.
Overall it does seem a little forgotten, but there's some stellar material on it.
The WW1 side is dope from start to finish though. Krayzie Bone's "Hard Times" is a high bar for MC's who do non-traditional singing IMO:
https://youtu.be/W6lgTCzTJBk
That shit is a warm blanket. That's his 13th floor.
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13396405, Blowout Comb, Ill Communication (lead me to the Roots), Posted by GOMEZ, Wed Jul-29-20 05:26 PM
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream G-Funk (i'm gonna cheat and lump Doggystyle, the Chronic & Dogg Food together)
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13396419, These were most important to me in elementary/middle school lol Posted by Brew, Wed Jul-29-20 06:59 PM
>G-Funk (i'm gonna cheat and lump Doggystyle, the Chronic & >Dogg Food together)
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13396455, man, i love that dogg food album- Posted by kinetic94761180, Wed Jul-29-20 11:50 PM
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13396669, Dogg Food is the slept on classic of G-Funk Era Posted by GOMEZ, Thu Jul-30-20 01:59 PM
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13396685, Agreed. Saw a sick West Coast jacket I wanted to buy recently ... Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 02:55 PM
... that was just covered in the album covers for pretty much all west coast classics from the late 80s and 90s. But I didn't see Dogg Food on there (though I likely/hopefully just missed it) so I refused to buy it. Haha.
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13396684, Me too it's terrific. Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 02:54 PM
The whole DR camp was at the height of their cool at that point. Could do no wrong.
Not that they did any wrong prior to that. But there was a certain air of superiority they had at that point that was well-earned rather than just braggadocios like it had been prior to that.
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13396428, Here is where I truly date myself... Posted by bigkarma, Wed Jul-29-20 07:34 PM
1999 King of Rock Murmur Kill Em All
Honorable mention: Thriller Let's Dance Speaking in Tongues
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13396438, ‘85-‘89: LL Cool J’s “Radio” in 1985... Posted by Creole, Wed Jul-29-20 09:08 PM
Run DMC’s “Raising Hell” in ‘86 (Beastie Boys also dropped “License to Ill”.) Eric B & Rakim’s “Follow the Leader” in ‘88 (BDP, BDK, PE, Ice T, Lyte, NWA and a host of others dropped) The D.O.C.’s “No One Can Do It Better” in ‘89 (BDP, BDK, De La Soul, Kwame, Cool C, Special Ed, Beastie Boys, and too many more)
By the time I hit high school, it was all hip hop for me with the exception of Prince, New Edition, and a few other artists. I’d also gotten into The Cure, Depeche Mode, U2, etc once we moved to New Orleans in ‘87.
Though there were many great pieces of work that dropped, the four I listed above are the ones where there was a crazy balance between what I was really feeling and also what the general public was feeling as it was expressed through radio and video. New Orleans, especially between ‘87 and ‘90 when I left for the USAF, was heavy into what was usually blasting on MTV Raps and because all of the serious acts always floated into the city.
I saw Biz Mark, Lyte, BDK, Ice T, PE, NWA, De La, Too Short, Slick Rick, Doug E. Fresh, and a bunch more in that three time span that I lived in NO.
SHAT! Time’s flown way too fast.
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13396920, my HS years also Posted by Ray_Snill, Sat Aug-01-20 11:15 AM
I guess my 4 would be:
2 Live Crew - 2 Live Is WHat We Are ... Word Run-DMC - Raising Hell Public Enemy - ITANOMTHUB N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
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13396501, Graduated '08 Posted by doubleP, Thu Jul-30-20 08:47 AM
Nas - Lost Tapes Blu & Exile - Below the Heavens Little Brother - The Minstrel Show One Be Lo - Sounds of Nashid Originate Good Rhymes and Music
There were a lot of others then. I was just getting into a lot of hiphop that wasn't NY 2nd golden age "canon"
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13396502, I was in HS between 90-94 .. this is way too hard Posted by jimi, Thu Jul-30-20 08:49 AM
Big Daddy Kane came out with that Chocolate shit and it was a wrap for me.. and the 90s roared through
between...
Public Enemy Cube EPMD BDP (played the most) A tribe Called Quest (played the most) Slick Rick Kool G Rap Special ED
Red Man DE La Soul BeatNuts Digital Underground Snoop DeathRow Black Moon Intelligent Hoodlum Large Professor Lord Finesse Showbiz and AG
SoulIISoul WuTang Biggie Nas Jay Z Erykah Badu The Liks
it's hard to choose.. the most I played out of all that:
All Native Tongues stuff was in constant rotation (i'm also including beatnuts) Public Enemy, It take a million... (freshman on in HS) EPMD (business as usual - freshman) BDP Edutainment and on (freshman and sophomore) RedMan (whut? and dare is the darkside) WuTang (junior & senior year - 36 chambers) Biggie (junior & senior year -ready to die) Black Moon (junior .. enta da stage)
and I know I'm missing some..
@silentintellect
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13396511, I need a top 10 for real Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-30-20 09:07 AM
cause:
PRT Rakim Queen Latifah Main Source Special Ed Brand Nubian EPMD Slick Rick BDP Guy Keith Sweat EnVogue Janet Jackson Prince LL
It’s just too many good albums that were in rotation.
I prolly played more PRT and Brand Nubian than Al B Sure but I had to throw one RB joint in there because it was my slow grinding phase.
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13396520, not necessarily impt. but: Now, Confessions, LL Vol 2, Big & Dre Present Posted by CherNic, Thu Jul-30-20 09:25 AM
This was actually pretty hard for me to remember what I was listening to.
Now/Maxwell - I think this was the first album I bought from him...or maybe I bought this a little after Embrya? I do remember listening to it a lot though, esp. my junior year
Confessions/Usher - could not escape this fucking album. Usher book ended high school for me. 8701 freshman year, Confessions senior year.
Lyricist Lounge Vol 2 - Oh No was the first song I heard with Mos on it I think.
Outkast compilation - The first Outkast album I bought (shame). Loved all three of the new tracks Funkin Around, The Whole World, and Movin Cool. Bought this at Walmart and it was edited lmao
I also remember playing the first Nappy Roots album a lot. Listened to it last week for the first time in years.
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13396559, i played this a lot Posted by mista k5, Thu Jul-30-20 10:02 AM
>Outkast compilation - The first Outkast album I bought >(shame). Loved all three of the new tracks Funkin Around, The >Whole World, and Movin Cool. Bought this at Walmart and it was >edited lmao >
loved the new tracks too. i think my brother had bought it so between aquemini and this one i became a big fan. you cant top having a slim shady lp edited version though.
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13396538, Reflection Eternal, Like Water for Chocolate, Black on Both Sides Posted by Amritsar, Thu Jul-30-20 09:44 AM
and probably Baduizm
Iwas a deep OKP, Spitkicker, Rawkus head lol
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13396567, Haha as was I. Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 10:09 AM
> Iwas a deep OKP, Spitkicker, Rawkus head lol
But I took "important" to mean the albums that kind of led me to explore my musical tastes deeper.
So I included "Book of Human Language" in my post because it was one of the first "underground" rap albums I'd bought (I'd bought and heard "Stakes is High" and "Things Fall Apart" in middle school but this post said HS, so...lol), and it started me on the path of exploring the underground further and discovering Common, Rawkus, OKP, etc.
Then I included "The Blueprint" cuz that's the album that reminded me that I didn't actually hate mainstream rap music like I'd largely pretended to for the couple years (soph and junior year, namely) that followed my discovery of all the great underground music mentioned above lol.
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13396698, That whole wave hit right after high school age for me Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Jul-30-20 03:35 PM
Soundbombing 2 is perhaps the most pivotal moment in hip hop for me, because that was my gateway to Common, Mos Def, Talib/Reflection Eternal and Black Star, Dilated, Pharoahe, Company Flow, High And Mighty.
I'd heard Com on Illadelph and TFA, but it was 1999 that had me checking for his albums.
For me, SB2 was a gateway drug of epic proportions, and kicked open the floodgates.
The wave that hit next is, IMO, criminally under heralded.
LWFC, BOB, Internal Affairs, TOT, Fantastic Vol 2, and The Platform made for a monster slate on it's own. Lesser albums by High and Mighty, even. Hi Teknology dropped in 01 to keep that train rolling along.
Even then, I had so much ground to cover just to get caught up, with Black Star, ODIAMS, Resurrection, Funcrusher, SB 1, looking for shit like MOOD, discovering Kool Keith, looking for Rugged Man shit off the strength of his oddball cut off SB2...
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13396713, RE: That whole wave hit right after high school age for me Posted by C. Thelonius, Thu Jul-30-20 05:30 PM
SHIT! Your post just took me back for real. All those exact albums and artists. Same. It was my first and second years of college. Common became my favorite MC at the time because of LWFC and his verse on Respiration. I also loved that whole Boston scene of Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, Edan, etc.
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13396743, Yepp I checked for that exact Boston cast, too. Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 10:04 PM
>SHIT! Your post just took me back for real. All those exact >albums and artists. Same. It was my first and second years of >college. Common became my favorite MC at the time because of >LWFC and his verse on Respiration. I also loved that whole >Boston scene of Mr. Lif, Akrobatik, Edan, etc.
I'm from the Boston area so it was natural. Although I don't recall knowing that Lif was a Boston guy in the moment at least ...
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13396742, RE: That whole wave hit right after high school age for me Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 10:03 PM
Man yea - that timeframe you speak of is hella unheralded, even if it doesn't feel like it around these parts (and thank god for this board, otherwise I'd have like 3 friends to discuss this shit with lol)
But yea that whole string of albums, my god. Just classic after classic after classic IMO. Such incredible creativity coming out of all these likeminded artists. Obviously a ton of them worked together and/or were inspired by eachother, and we were the benefactors.
I'm also with you on the ground I had to cover. I'd bought Stakes is High and Things Fall Apart in 8th grade. Not sure what compelled me to grab Stakes but either way, those were sort of my "starter" albums for music deeper than the mainstream hip hop I'd listened to up to that point. And even though I didn't really know it at the time, those were my intros to Common as well - who would eventually become my favorite MC.
I was still primarily mainstream listening freshman year until I copped Book of Human Language and One Day It'll All Make Sense and it was off and running from there. That's when I caught up on Comm's prior albums, then De La, The Roots, etc. And it was tough because I had to do all this catching up while still keeping up with the current output of those artists and so many others, a ton of which you mentioned below.
I call it "tough" but I just mean in terms of time - I obviously loved every minute of this discovery process lol.
>Soundbombing 2 is perhaps the most pivotal moment in hip hop >for me, because that was my gateway to Common, Mos Def, >Talib/Reflection Eternal and Black Star, Dilated, Pharoahe, >Company Flow, High And Mighty. > >I'd heard Com on Illadelph and TFA, but it was 1999 that had >me checking for his albums. > >For me, SB2 was a gateway drug of epic proportions, and kicked >open the floodgates. > >The wave that hit next is, IMO, criminally under heralded. > >LWFC, BOB, Internal Affairs, TOT, Fantastic Vol 2, and The >Platform made for a monster slate on it's own. Lesser albums >by High and Mighty, even. Hi Teknology dropped in 01 to keep >that train rolling along. > >Even then, I had so much ground to cover just to get caught >up, with Black Star, ODIAMS, Resurrection, Funcrusher, SB 1, >looking for shit like MOOD, discovering Kool Keith, looking >for Rugged Man shit off the strength of his oddball cut off >SB2... >
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13396650, Death Certificate, Reachin’, Legend, The Best of the Isley Bro’s Posted by kevb, Thu Jul-30-20 01:15 PM
Kev
Shout out to Southernplayistic, The Low End Theory, Illmatic, and Dionne Farris’ 1st album.
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13396654, Damn I miss feeling "this" way about music Posted by Sleepy300, Thu Jul-30-20 01:21 PM
C/O '98 in the building
In no particular order...going to go based on what memories come to mind when I think about certain albums:
Going into HS, I was fresh off of Wu-Tang (came out late 93 I believe) and Nas (Spring '94)...throw Black Moon in there for good measure; That summer all we heard was the emergence of Bad Boy (led with Flava in Ya Ear).
1. Ready to Die 94 2. Tie - GZA / Purple Tape 95 (Reminds me of winter and HS football still to this day) 3. It was written / The Fugees / The Coming (All came out in the spring of 96 - reminds me of running track) 4. TRU (I know, I know - was working at Kroger and No Limit was on nonstop, lol) / Life After Death / Wu double CD (honorable mention to the Keith Murray and the El Nino albums) - 97 5. EPMD Back in Business Fall 97 / Dark Man X ran spring of 98 when I graduated
Shots out to the emergence of Missy & Timbo (Ginuwine, Aaliya was killing), D'angelo, K-ci / JoJo (All my life was played at every damn prom I bet) and Baduizm (played this nonstop on my way to work - Taco Bell, lol).
After that...going into college was a hell of a run (Aquemini, Miseducation, Jay Z vol 2, Black Star...)
Far too many to name, I'm missing a bunch...thanks for this one.
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13396667, I feel like this album doesn’t get the love it deserves Posted by Anonymous, Thu Jul-30-20 01:57 PM
>The Coming
It kind of is a side note in grand scheme of 1996 which one could argue was the most prolific year for quality releases.
And then Busta obviously went on to have even more mainstream success.
But this album stands up to almost any album from that year and I feel like it’s never really mentioned.
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13396677, I completely agree brethren Posted by Sleepy300, Thu Jul-30-20 02:32 PM
I think that stretch in 1996 was just a year for great music*. However, I think for folks that were in HS during that time, that album was undeniable. I guess it guess B-side love from a mainstream perspective but for me, that is a staple (when I think 'do my thing' as an opening, it takes me back to being on the bus)
*I feel that way about 1998 as well
>>The Coming > >It kind of is a side note in grand scheme of 1996 which one >could argue was the most prolific year for quality releases. > >And then Busta obviously went on to have even more mainstream >success. > >But this album stands up to almost any album from that year >and I feel like it’s never really mentioned.
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13396692, Yea agree 100%. He was so damn unique and that album ... Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 03:14 PM
... was so perfect coming from him. The musical landscape, the personality, the lyrics, all of it. Really really great and underrated.
>>The Coming > >It kind of is a side note in grand scheme of 1996 which one >could argue was the most prolific year for quality releases. > >And then Busta obviously went on to have even more mainstream >success. > >But this album stands up to almost any album from that year >and I feel like it’s never really mentioned.
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13396699, Busta, as a whole, seems to get lost in the shuffle Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Jul-30-20 03:37 PM
He's legitimately on that GOAT shortlist to me, but doesn't really get the tick he's earned in GOAT discussions.
I'm disgusted with myself that I don't talk about him more. Like, I should be posting random Busta joints just because.
That man is one of hip hop's crown jewel artists, IMO
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13396703, Glad this is in the same thread as the Bone Thugz discussion above. Posted by Brew, Thu Jul-30-20 04:08 PM
Because I think that both artists "get lost in the shuffle" as you say because a lot of people, wrongly, pass them off as just like contrived, gimmicky artists ... artists with more personality and flair than actual skill.
This is very unscientific but that's what I think happened and happens with artists like Bone Thugz and Busta. I think DMX maybe falls into this category as well. I myself am guilty of kind of being dismissive of DMX, only to rediscover just last week how talented the guy was and is lyrically. I wouldn't personally put him on the level of Bone and Busta in terms of overall skill, album quality, or impact, but he certainly has way more lyrical skill than I would've given him credit for for like a decade prior to last week's Verzuz battle. And I'm just using him as another example of an artist whose personality trumped his skill in the collective mainstream point of view as time has gone on.
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13396711, Agreed Posted by Anonymous, Thu Jul-30-20 05:13 PM
Busta is a top tier MC.
He does get mentioned on Top 25-Top 50 lists and maybe that is appropriate.
I just specifically think The Coming not only fits the mold of the classic 96 sound and albums but is also very unique based on his personality.
Again, 96 is a beast of a year so many it is the reason it’s overlooked.
That year legit has 25 GREAT albums...so it may not even be in the Top 10 of that year.
I see Reasonable Doubt listed one people all-time Top 10, Top 5, even seen it as the number one album on people’s list and I’m thinking “shit may not even be Top 5 of 1996.
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13396785, This part... Posted by Sleepy300, Fri Jul-31-20 10:25 AM
> >I see Reasonable Doubt listed one people all-time Top 10, Top >5, even seen it as the number one album on people’s list and >I’m thinking “shit may not even be Top 5 of 1996.
^^^ That's 100 and I am a Jay fan. If you were actually there live in 1996, that's exactly how it felt. While RD was a solid album that grew to stand the test of time and be deemed a classic, there was far too much heat out there in 96. The standards were THAT high during that time. It also was so many different styles that your pallet could vary based on how your tastes were conformed. I had RD...but hell I also had Heltah Skelkta Nocturnal too, lol. There was also It was written, Mobb Deep's Hell on Earth (underrated IMO), ATLiens and Ironman from GFK. And once again I'm still leaving out a ton of shit from that year, LOL.
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13396790, The release list from that year is insane Posted by Anonymous, Fri Jul-31-20 11:02 AM
Ironman is underrated. That’s due to not only 96 but also because it followed Cuban Linx and Liquid Swords and isn’t as good as those two albums.
But if anyone thinks Ironman is better than Reasonable Doubt, they will get no argument from me. Winter Warz and Motherless Child were classics on soundtracks. Daytona 500, Camay and All I Got Is You are classic singles making it 5 songs released from that album. Then Iron Maiden, Wildflower, The Faster Blade, Assassination Day, Box In Hand, Fish...I mean DAMN! Lol
But let’s look at the 96 list in no order
It Was Written Ironman Hell On Earth ATLiens Stakes Is High Beats, Rhymes & Life Nocturnal Reasonable Doubt Muddy Waters The Score All Eyez On Me Makaveli At The Speed of Life Soul On Ice Illadelph Halflife Enigma The Coming Riding Dirty Legal Drug Money Realms N Reality Firing Squad America Is Dying Slowly Compilation High School High Soundtrack Entroducing Wrath Of The Math Dr Octagon The Turnaround: A Long Awaited Drama The Awakening Westside Connection Gravity The New World Order Juggaknots From Where??? God Connections Blah Blah Blah Wild Cowboys Kollage Once Upon A Time In America
And I know I’m missing a few...
Not to mention iNi’s Center Of Attention got shelved and in my opinion is a Top 5 album from that year...that shit is special.
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13396792, Goddamn that's an intimidating fucking list of classics. Posted by Brew, Fri Jul-31-20 11:32 AM
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13396794, In my mind 95 was dope and the drop off began in 96... Posted by Marbles, Fri Jul-31-20 11:42 AM
But checking this list has me thinking my mind must be scrambled. This list is heavy with great music. Maybe think I should check out a list of 97 releases?
Don't get old, y'all.
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13396796, I used to say 97...but honestly Posted by Anonymous, Fri Jul-31-20 11:47 AM
I don’t know if the drop off happened until 01.
97 was a change and definitely not as good as previous years but there are some absolute gems that year as well.
98 was a big year.
99 was NOT good at all really but I don’t know if I can say it was the drop off because 2000 was dope.
After that the releases get really sparse and I don’t believe we see another great year until 06...and then again in 12 and it’s been getting strong again from there with some ups and downs.
It’s obviously all related to ones tastes but it hard to pinpoint the drop off imo.
I’m good with saying 97 started the drop though. I’ve just recently been surprised at how well some of those albums held up.
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13396797, I did a quick review on Wiki... Posted by Marbles, Fri Jul-31-20 11:58 AM
In my age-addled brain, the 2nd half of the 90s was when things started falling off. I checked a list on wiki for hip hop releases in 1997. There were a few gems but not close to 96.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_in_hip_hop_music
1998 was just OK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_in_hip_hop_music
And neither 1999 nor 2000 were that good, IMO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_in_hip_hop_music
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_in_hip_hop_music
I wanna make sure that I say that I don't mean that 98, 99 or 2000 were complete wastes. There were some great albums dropped here & there, some of them my all-time favorites. But overall, I feel like the percentage of great albums too a big drop in these years.
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13396798, I agree with this... Posted by Anonymous, Fri Jul-31-20 12:19 PM
>I wanna make sure that I say that I don't mean that 98, 99 or >2000 were complete wastes. There were some great albums >dropped here & there, some of them my all-time favorites. But >overall, I feel like the percentage of great albums too a big >drop in these years.
97-00 didn’t have as many good-great albums as previous years but they did have some extreme highs, especially 98 and 00.
What I’m finding with those years are that not only had the landscape changed, so did my tastes and I feel like I missed out on some bangers back then that I appreciate much more now. Like Black Moon’s War Zone...that shit is a banger from top to bottom but I was kind of past that style in 99 so it came off weak.
97 was definitely a change but man...I love some of those albums.
Jewelz Uptown Saturday Night One Day It’ll All Make Sense That’s Them The War Report Ghetto Millionaire Life After Death Wu-Tang Forever Aforementioned Art of War The 18th Letter In My Lifetime Vol 1 Likwidation Stone Crazy The Carnival Soul In The Hole Soundtrack Soul Assassins Chapter 1 Hatred, Passions and Infidelity When Disaster Strikes Doom Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars The Pick, The Sickle and The Shovel Rhyme & Reason Soundtrack The Untouchable My Will Lunatik Muzik
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13396804, See..this is where my tastes become biased, lol Posted by Sleepy300, Fri Jul-31-20 12:36 PM
>1998 was just OK. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_in_hip_hop_music >
I think someone said it later on but by Fall 98, I was a freshman in college which was an experience in itself and damn if that 98 run didn't "feel" like a soundtrack to where I was at the time. From X's debut (summer) to Aquemini to Miseducation to Vol2 to Black Star to even Dru Hill (with the Belly Movie & first Rush Hour as a backdrop, LOL)
Side note: Looking at that wiki link, the fact that Vol2 / BlackStar / Aquemini / The love moment all dropped in the same week is crazy all by itself! I stayed walking to the Record Exchange, LMAO
-Admittedly biased to the nostalgia of 98, LOL
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13396808, I don't blame you one bit. Posted by Marbles, Fri Jul-31-20 01:15 PM
I don't think there's anything wrong with nostalgia affecting your tastes. Like you said, these songs & albums become the soundtrack to our formative years. So don't let us dinosaurs affect how you feel about your music. Just listen to us and nod so we feel like we're dropping some knowledge.
For us, fall of 93 was really heavy. That was the start of my sophomore year in college and we had:
Buhloone Mindstate Midnight Maurauders 93 til Infinity (we saw Souls, De La & Tribe together in Dec. 93) No Need For Alarm Doggystyle Enta da Stage 36 Chambers
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13396812, Man that list is just as formative..whew Posted by Sleepy300, Fri Jul-31-20 01:46 PM
Brethren I love and miss these types of discussions. Tying music to your life & times type shit.
93 for me was middle school...I'm at the start of the journey of trying to 'figure it all out', lol. I remember all of these albums clearly too due to the influencing years combined with a wide range of quality music. For me, I would say these were palette shaping years musically. I always loved hip hop but middle school was when it started tying to my feelings/emotions vs liking it just to like it.
But on a personal note, I'm glad you have Enta da Stage on here - In my initial post, I said that I was just coming off of that 93 run going into HS and listed Black Moon on there. I remember Buckshot Shorty (cause he takes no shorts, lol) was my favorite rapper for a bit...off of Powerful Impact alone. That whole album knocked in a walkman - very slept on group/production/skills-wise.
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13397070, I feel like I deserve a shout out here lol... Posted by FLUIDJ, Mon Aug-03-20 12:23 PM
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13396922, LOL...that’s bananas!!! Posted by Dstl1, Sat Aug-01-20 11:40 AM
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13396740, I might have to do with his albums, some of which are kinda bloated Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jul-30-20 09:48 PM
In general, I'm not a fan of the "Keep your album short" school of thought, but some of Busta's releases are too long.
I have no problems with "The Coming"; that's an unquestionably great album front to back. But on other albums I enjoy quite a bit, like "Disaster Strikes" and "Anarchy," he seems to cram waaaay to much into them.
Also, as his career has gone on, the singles tend to be a lot but than the album cuts, and I'm guy who usually lives for the album cuts.
Then again, I'll also admit he's seemed to find a lot of new fire since hooking up with ATCQ post-Phife, so we'll see.
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13396745, Yeah his other albums are bloated Posted by Anonymous, Thu Jul-30-20 10:10 PM
When Disaster Strikes, ELE and Anarchy are all too long.
Cut those down to 13 each like The Coming...now we’re talking about some unfuckwitable run.
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13396746, The Big Bang was a surprisingly dope album to me Posted by DJR, Thu Jul-30-20 10:18 PM
At that point in his career, I thought I probably wouldn’t really like a new Busta album again, but that album had a lot of heat on it.
That “Dillagence” mixtape he had out around that time over all Dilla beats was great too. I gotta find that - had not thought of that in probably over a decade.
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13396828, Perhaps. I think it's that he doesn't provide wish fulfillment Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Jul-31-20 03:55 PM
"Wish fulfillment" may not be the right word, and I can really only speak for myself.
But he's not really a guy that most people can live vicariously through, like a Jay or BIG.
If you're rapping along to Pac... you can, for the span of 4 minutes, take that energy as your own. You feel damn near like a superhero.
Nas is a narrator and you see the hood through his eyes, and the outside world from that project window perspective.
Wu put on a complete cinematic experience.
If you're about to get into a fight, or just want to burn off some serious aggression...you can put on Real Muthaphuckkin G's.
If you're about to lose your shit over the political landscape? Put on Amerikkka's Most or Fear of A Black Planet.
Throw on Doggystle at any party, and it's a fuckin wrap.
If you're from the hood, but not really out there bangin' like that? You can listen to Regulate.... G Funk Era and feel at home.
Shit... DMX gives you a full human experience in his first two albums.
When I look at Busta's catalog, I don't really get that deeply immersive vibe, where I feel like I can put on his music like a suit of armor.
And when you get to other cats, like The Roots, Tribe, De La, Mos, Com, Kweli? You still wind up in a different state, like you're listening to a more artistically "pure" form of hip hop, something closer to it's original, or, intended state. I'm simplifying here, because this is getting long, lol.
Some of this is me projecting my own experiences, but much of it is observation of others, and some deduction.
And while I don't think this is a scientifically sound premise, I think this is something close. I think Busta brings raw energy and creativity, and does so both visually and musically.
He's the guy who makes art simply because he's an artist. And while he's got the whole end of the world theme, I don't think that resonates on a level that's personally relatable, as with other artists.
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13397223, RE: Damn I miss feeling "this" way about music Posted by MaxPtah, Tue Aug-04-20 10:11 AM
>4. TRU (I know, I know - was working at Kroger and No Limit >was on nonstop, lol)
I'm glad to see someone else had this on here lol. Beats By The Pound had this album right!
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13396708, Can I Borrow A Dollar, A Future Without A Past, The Chronic, Smells Like Teen Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-30-20 04:39 PM
Like Teen Spirit
I fucked the years ALLLLLL up first go around lol. Class of 1995
"Get ready....for your blessing....." "Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
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13396753, B.D.P., Showbiz & A.G., Digable Planets Posted by EAS, Thu Jul-30-20 11:40 PM
1. Sex & Violence 2. Edutainment 3. Runaway Slave 4. Reachin' (A New Refutation of Time & Space) DP's remix of Where I'm From was my shit
Honorable mentions: Gangstarr's 'Hard to Earn', Brand Nubian's 'One for All', Del 'I Wish My Brother George Was Here'
Songs that had me in the zone: Gangstarr's 'Take It Personal','The ?Remainz', 'Takin' Loot (Gotta Get Over) Large Pro remix, Souls of Mischief '93 til Infinity, That's When Ya Lost
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13396786, Phrenology, Quality, The College Dropout, The Minstrel Show Posted by Oak27, Fri Jul-31-20 10:34 AM
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13396788, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by luminous, Fri Jul-31-20 10:41 AM
Reachin' (A New Refutation of Time and Space) Bazaar Ride to the Pharcyde Blowout Comb Do You Want More?!!!??!
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13396791, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by upUPNorth, Fri Jul-31-20 11:26 AM
My first is probably Talib Kweli's Quality. That one fits with the timing of me actually being in High School, though I got in to him and Reflection Eternal all around the same time. Going to talibkweli.com drove me to okayplayer eventually back then, which drove a lot of my musical discoveries later. Those albums were the reason I started caring about music and wanting to go to the store and care enough to buy them.
Next is probably The Listening. The guy at the store I used to shop at put me on because he knew my tastes, in retrospect he was probably the only reason a copy was even in that Pickering mall store back then. I don't think I realized they were dudes from the boards back then yet either, my lurker attention was limited.
My other two might be Franz Ferdinand's self titled debut and Modest Mouse's Good News for People who love Bad News. They were some of my first dabbling outside of Hip Hop at that age, and realizing I could like other genres. I remember listening to them for the first time when no one was home because I knew my Dad would be annoying about not hearing rap coming out of my speakers (I'm not gonna talk about all that lol).
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13396884, Here's My List Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Sat Aug-01-20 01:34 AM
The four important albums that I listened to in high school a lot were:
1. ATCQ "Low End Theory"
2. Dj Magic Mike "Bass Is The Name Of The Game"
3. Ten City "Foundation"
4. Boogie Down Productions "By All Means Necessary"
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13396898, Word. Posted by Binlahab, Sat Aug-01-20 07:45 AM
4. Super tight - ugk 3. Dookie - green day 2. 12play - he whose name shall not be mentioned 1. Doggy style - Snoop Dogg
on sabbatical.
does it really matter?
wonder what bin's doing? http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg
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13397046, The Chronic, Doggystyle, Illmatic, Southernplayisticadillacmuzic Posted by Cocobrotha2, Mon Aug-03-20 10:54 AM
Honorable mention to Enter the Wutang .... it's a better album that Suothenrplaya but I just liked OutKast better as an entity.
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13397051, from 92-96... Posted by cbk, Mon Aug-03-20 11:01 AM
dr. dre "the chronic" geto boys "the resurrection" luther vandross "the best of luther/the best of love" o(+> "the gold experience"
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13397156, RE: Your 4 most important albums that you listened to in high school? Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Mon Aug-03-20 08:41 PM
93 'til Infinity OB4CL... Soul Food ATLiens
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