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Topic subjectQuestion. Is or is NOT OKP Black owned?
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13391258
13391258, Question. Is or is NOT OKP Black owned?
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 05:12 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391300, Its majority-white owned.
Posted by Triptych, Tue Jun-30-20 10:50 AM
.
13391397, Is the remaining minority Black? or black? or 'non-white'?
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 12:37 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391422, Deleted message
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jun-30-20 02:25 PM
No message
13391498, figures
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Wed Jul-01-20 06:21 AM
>
13391565, yikes
Posted by Damali, Wed Jul-01-20 11:11 AM
13391305, is quest still involved at all? whats his role? just curious.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Jun-30-20 10:56 AM
13391363, yeesh...
Posted by Damali, Tue Jun-30-20 11:29 AM
13391391, wait, what?
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 12:23 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391563, omg i replied in the wrong place LOL
Posted by Damali, Wed Jul-01-20 11:11 AM
probably the 3rd time that's happened in 20 years...LOL

i meant this to be in reaction to reply #1 about it being majority white owned

d
13391570, LOL...I was like "damn, what I say????"
Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Jul-01-20 11:15 AM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391382, Furthermore, what's the legit actual corporate structure?? I'm so
Posted by kfine, Tue Jun-30-20 12:10 PM
confused since all the drama.

For example, in the initial statements made public by the aggrieved women, they speak of Okayplayer and Okayafrica, and the corporate response to the allegations cite Okayplayer and Okayafrica. But in the former CEOs statement, he cites Okaymedia and makes no mention of either Okayplayer and Okayafrica. Then in the women's response after that, they cite only Okaymedia. But if you google Okaymedia, a company in the Netherlands comes up as well as an old twitter account owned by what appears to be some teenybopper in Lagos.

Are Okayplayer and Okayafrica even actual companies?? Or is Okaymedia the actual company, and okayplayer and okayafrica are essentially just DBAs or domain names or what have you?? And what about Largeup, Revivalist, etc.. how do they fit in?

It's hilariously strange how opaque the business dealings surroundng this site are. Like are the boards hosted on some server in Djibouti right now lol? Is that why things went offline last summer lol?
13392635, lol far as i can tell thru googles and speculation
Posted by Riot, Wed Jul-08-20 09:04 PM

quest got with the money team while they (steve and sam hendel, and steve's broadway producer wife and the chick that was doing A&R for fela's family that tweeted the apology) were pushing the fela play

his story is he caught the play at the end of the off-broadway run and helped bring jay z and will & jada in to take it to broadway

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190625005612/en/Levin-Easterly-Names-Sam-Hendel-President

so that is the public connection between the fitewolks and 15. and without researching it i'd bet that ?s getting involved with the play was roughly the time okayafrica launched as well, with some cash infusion from the fitewolks for the overall "okaymedia" pie.

and with okafrica having no competition, vs the other sites okp "competed" against for hiphop audiences/clicks, its not hard to picture the business strategy shifting to making okayafrica the centerpiece of "okaymedia", since thats where the money walked in the room anyway.


and SIDEBAR the 2 dudes are in investment banking/energy trading so this music website is most likely barely a playtime hobby/"looks good on a bio" that they pay no attn too, and the boards even less. which would also explain the delayed/lack of response by "ownership" on what all went down with the ceo.


my take.

also have fun unwrapping an international oil commodities trader thats in love with fela and songs against exploitation

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/theater/10hendel.html

>confused since all the drama.
>
>For example, in the initial statements made public by the
>aggrieved women, they speak of Okayplayer and Okayafrica, and
>the corporate response to the allegations cite Okayplayer and
>Okayafrica. But in the former CEOs statement, he cites
>Okaymedia and makes no mention of either Okayplayer and
>Okayafrica. Then in the women's response after that, they cite
>only Okaymedia. But if you google Okaymedia, a company in the
>Netherlands comes up as well as an old twitter account owned
>by what appears to be some teenybopper in Lagos.
>
>Are Okayplayer and Okayafrica even actual companies?? Or is
>Okaymedia the actual company, and okayplayer and okayafrica
>are essentially just DBAs or domain names or what have you??
>And what about Largeup, Revivalist, etc.. how do they fit in?
>
>It's hilariously strange how opaque the business dealings
>surroundng this site are. Like are the boards hosted on some
>server in Djibouti right now lol? Is that why things went
>offline last summer lol?
13391384, Quesiton: Who is giving a fuck??
Posted by handle, Tue Jun-30-20 12:13 PM
???????????????????????????????
13391387, lol I don't think it's odd to have questions at all
Posted by kfine, Tue Jun-30-20 12:18 PM
13391393, rgt? smh
Posted by mikediggz, Tue Jun-30-20 12:30 PM
13391406, I think it's odd 20 years in
Posted by handle, Tue Jun-30-20 01:22 PM
But whatever - I'm sure it'll lead to reasoned and useful conversations in the future.

13391415, Not really odd...I've always assumed it wasn't...but then...would
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 01:58 PM
see things written that suggested that it was....
and i'm certain i'm not alone...

>But whatever - I'm sure it'll lead to reasoned and useful
>conversations in the future.

You're not typically sarcastic, so i'm not taking this response that way...hopefully i'm right.




"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391390, ownership matters. a Lot.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 12:22 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391392, you're white right?
Posted by CherNic, Tue Jun-30-20 12:24 PM
no shade...but it does matter
13391566, Legit question
Posted by Case_One, Wed Jul-01-20 11:13 AM

.
.

“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Good News: https://www.goodnewsnetwork
13393296, Yes, he is
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Tue Jul-14-20 03:33 AM
13391412, How white of you
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jun-30-20 01:55 PM
13391409, FluidJ trying to decide if he gon hurl this molotov cocktail @ OKP
Posted by sersey, Tue Jun-30-20 01:46 PM
...and WTF kinda way is that to form a question!?
13391411, it's provocative
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 01:55 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391413, Is you is or is you ain’t Black?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jun-30-20 01:56 PM
13391410, ya'll finally seeing the main reason for the decline
Posted by eclipsedInI, Tue Jun-30-20 01:48 PM
13391414, LMAO @ this even being a question
Posted by seasoned vet, Tue Jun-30-20 01:58 PM
LMAO @ the clutched pearls over the answer

fake woke asses
13391418, not seeing any clutched pearls...not seeing the humor in the question
Posted by FLUIDJ, Tue Jun-30-20 02:01 PM
either...

Now that OKP is on 'That Summer Jam Screen'.......I figure it's a good time to make it clear who is/isn't running the ship here......



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391824, it was a black man called out for mistreatment of employees
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 12:56 PM
13391844, What exactly do you want from me??? lol.. Your point isn't lost on me....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:47 PM
And kudos to you for knowing.
I didn't know, so I asked.
I suspected, but didn't KNOW...so I asked.
Now I know...because I trust Tryptich knows...
So I'm good.
It's not any deeper than that.
Stop trying to MAKE it out that I'M making it deeper than that.
Folks can do whatever they want to do with the info...

I guess for ME...It's just another thing in this world that I'm aware of us (black folks) not really having full unadulterated control over. That's just me...because I like to know shit like that...just like I like to take mental notes of how many houses I pass that have black windows and white siding....or I notice how many other cars the exact same color and trim line as mine because it's a semi-rare combination.....

just geek down with me yo....you trying to pick a fight or something...and I'm not really on that...

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391425, What’s the answer? I haven’t seen it yet
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jun-30-20 02:34 PM
but I have a feeling I know it already.

nvm. I see it.
13391456, my comment was deleted so I know the answer lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jun-30-20 05:35 PM
13391457, your comment was deleted because it was racist...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Tue Jun-30-20 05:52 PM
..and people from THIS community called it out/complained.

please stop.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13391475, Did I say something that was untrue?
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jun-30-20 09:41 PM
13391486, this isn't a joke...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Tue Jun-30-20 11:39 PM
..I asked you to stop with the bullshit, respectfully.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13391458, Wait....does Questlove not own this???
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Jun-30-20 06:28 PM
...if not, when did this happen?


13391476, *stands in this line*
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jun-30-20 09:43 PM
13391499, can someone please answer
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Wed Jul-01-20 06:22 AM
>
13391568, You might have to DM him on IG. He's on there lightly Dj'in
Posted by Case_One, Wed Jul-01-20 11:14 AM

.
.

“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Good News: https://www.goodnewsnetwork
13391750, oh i've been watching and enjoying...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Thu Jul-02-20 08:19 AM
..It's none of my business to ask tho ..but it kind of feels like the party ended and we all just hung around after and didn't get the memo


13391573, This post touched a nerve, and I'm not even sure why
Posted by flipnile, Wed Jul-01-20 11:19 AM
Interesting tho.
13391700, so this basically Sal's, but with mad Black faces on the wall?
Posted by poetx, Wed Jul-01-20 08:21 PM
*stands over here, out front, w/ this trashcan, confrused af*


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
13391707, we're the ants in the sealed nuclear bunker
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jul-01-20 09:04 PM

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13391719, You & CyrenYoung Been Hinting At Something In This Post
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Wed Jul-01-20 10:00 PM
The mods seem mad calm while others are feeling like they're asking a simple question, I know there is a moderators forum that you all got mad wild topics about the posters how but if this subject is too close for comfort for Mr.15's team then just post a statement and lock the topic.


13391734, you're reaching...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-02-20 12:33 AM
..I haven't said a word. My only response in this post was to address a racist comment that was brought to my attention.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13391741, I'm not hinting at shit. I know as much about okp beyond the boards
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Jul-02-20 06:24 AM
as anyone else does, likely less.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13391737, Lmao
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 05:47 AM
13391757, if you pay attention to how stuff moves around here I don't see how...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-02-20 08:40 AM
people are surprised that its not majority black-owned
13391759, I don't so break it down with examples and be specific
Posted by Lurkmode, Thu Jul-02-20 08:46 AM
They fired shots at Quest for his response.
13391763, Yeah why is everyone who seem to know shit
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 08:53 AM
just want to stick their nose up at people who fail to see what they see or arent aware of but won’t state what these things are



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IG @erichrigonan
13391769, I already almost got banned in this post so I've probably said too much
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-02-20 09:03 AM
13391778, Damn
Posted by Lurkmode, Thu Jul-02-20 09:46 AM
In that case nevermind.
13391801, take a look at this thread and you can see that he's lying...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-02-20 10:59 AM
..he's trolling up and down this thread, and the community falls for it every time.

He doesn't know anything, yet continues fronting like he does. Makes assumptions based on (who knows?), but straight up lied to you about why his racist comment was deleted, even though I made it plain and simple.

No one threatened to ban anyone (completely unnecessary), but I clearly asked him to stop with the shenanigans.

Can we please get passed the bullshit?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13391880, let me give this general example that EVERYONE can see - the N word...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-02-20 02:34 PM
I personally try not to use it a lot here because its not a word that I generally use, particularly in "mixed" company.

Other people that would probably not use it in mixed conversations regularly throw it around here because it is an "assumed" majority black space, even if you pay attention its obviously not.

Even though that word is yelled on countless rap songs and used regularly on certain television shows.

There are other words that can get you banned here for even typing, but the N word is thrown around willy-nilly here on "super-woke OKP" where people spent countless posts arguing the minutiae of things like the capitalization of the "b" in black, "#ADOS" and "canceling" certain artists for songs or jokes and the newly dreaded "m" word.

Some posts about other topics that are foregone beaten "dead horses" constantly get randomly "upped" while other posts about subjects that the rest if the world is literally on fire about struggle to stay on the first page even in these relative slow times.

Look at the current world situation and how certain activities are "portrayed" vs who's actually doing them.

You have to ask yourself why and come to your own conclusions.
13391915, Ok now I understand
Posted by Lurkmode, Thu Jul-02-20 08:55 PM
I always wondered why the alt right troll Denny got a pass when he was violating so much, I see it now.

Yep the n-word is always a losing argument.
13391935, Why is that?(BDP)
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-03-20 08:16 AM

>Yep the n-word is always a losing argument.
13391965, I forgot to add, those who defend using it.
Posted by Lurkmode, Fri Jul-03-20 03:10 PM
So it was suppose to say, Those who defend using the n-word is a losing argument.

Too much baggage and history with it.
13391930, RE: let me give this general example that EVERYONE can see - the N word...
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jul-03-20 07:51 AM

>Some posts about other topics that are foregone beaten "dead
>horses" constantly get randomly "upped" while other posts
>about subjects that the rest if the world is literally on fire
>about struggle to stay on the first page even in these
>relative slow times.

YOU didn't post in any of these

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13383733&mesg_id=13383733&listing_type=search

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13384859&mesg_id=13384859&listing_type=search

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13380784&mesg_id=13380784&listing_type=search

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13383731&mesg_id=13383731&listing_type=search

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13382583&mesg_id=13382583&listing_type=search

13391933, point?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-03-20 08:12 AM
13391936, That if you’re not talking about it either how you gonna indict others for not
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jul-03-20 08:19 AM
13391940, So U MAD I didn't comment on your wood posts that don't effect black...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-03-20 09:18 AM
people directly?

Does that refute anything I said earlier?
13391943, You said world on fire. I thought you meant world events
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jul-03-20 10:08 AM
Carry on
13391947, World events that directly affect BLACK people but obviously that means...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-03-20 10:31 AM
nothing to you which is exactly what I'm describing so carry on indeed.
13391948, I post in and about both
Posted by MEAT, Fri Jul-03-20 10:41 AM
This me homie: https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13386147&mesg_id=13386147&listing_type=search
13391953, Congrats
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-03-20 11:41 AM
13391765, All I saw was them trying to be a woke Complex/Nah Right
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 08:57 AM
but geared towards a specific sound or demo and that shit never works IMO. This was during the time that was peaking but yeah. I guess they wanted to make some noise and money for having spawned a bunch of great artists on the boards


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IG @erichrigonan
13391779, Ain't nobody looking THAT deep at this place lol. The general belief
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 09:51 AM
i'm sure is that this is Quest's site and he pays others to run it as he has other more important shit going on....
Thus it's a very valid assumption that he owns the site.
I really didn't anticipate what I thought was a simple straight forward question turning into this...
My bad.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391725, No, but it will own your black ass
Posted by rdhull, Wed Jul-01-20 10:47 PM
13391729, what difference does it make
Posted by atruhead, Wed Jul-01-20 11:46 PM
niggas support every white owned website known to man online
13391740, If you don't see it...then there's nothing I can tell you....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 05:56 AM
13391747, Will it stop you from coming here?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 07:36 AM
Things that make you say hmmmm?

Our safe space is actually a white mans sandbox. They taking our recipes fam.
13391751, No. But that's not the reason why it's something that's worth knowing.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 08:30 AM
There are a lot of reasons.
Not even "deep" reasons....
13391761, So are you gonna say what your/the reasons are?
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 08:52 AM

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IG @erichrigonan
13391773, Because I want to know.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 09:19 AM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391789, Lol no I meant the whole "if you don't see it" ish
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 10:16 AM
enlighten us who don't see what you are talking about



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IG @erichrigonan
13391796, No, that was in reference to the question of "What difference does it make"
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 10:38 AM
does it make"

I feel like it's pretty obvious in many ways what difference ownership of this site makes....
Primarily that it caters to the black diaspora in very much the same way that Ebony, Essence, JET, BET do/did...
Don't YOU want to know who's in the kitchen cooking up your soul food??


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391798, Thats fair
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 10:44 AM

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IG @erichrigonan
13391825, lie to me and say you frequent the site beyond the message boards
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 12:59 PM
13391834, Why? What angle are you approaching now?
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:27 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391836, you're only on the message boards
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 01:32 PM
you were on the message boards before, not knowing who owns the site

what is the difference now
13391838, The only difference is that now I know more than I did prior. It's not that deep
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:36 PM
at all..lol...
y'all too damn sensitive....
I asked a straight up question...
Got a straight up answer...
I'm good....


>you were on the message boards before, not knowing who owns
>the site
>
>what is the difference now


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391840, oh, so it doesnt matter and you're just more informed now
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 01:38 PM
I thought your original take was "If you cant see it, there's nothing I can tell you"

now it's not that serious
13391845, That was my response #44 when 40+ people made it pretty obvious that
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:50 PM
having that bit of knowledge mattered.
It mattered to them in some form or fashion....whether significant or insignificant. It's not on you to determine what that knowledge was worth to those individuals (and me).
If you couldn't/can't see that....I don't know what to tell you....
My response stands....


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391857, it's like banging my head against the wall
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:03 PM
we started with "what difference does it make?" and ended with "it doesnt make a difference. I'll keep posting, but it makes a difference because at least I know now and dont tell me what it should mean to me"
13391862, You wanted a specific answer, so I gave you one. It goes without saying
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:09 PM
that if a person asks a question then the answer to that question matters in some capacity or another. My question wasn't flawed at all. Your response to my question was/is flawed. Who are you to question why/how an answer that someone is seeking matters?
This is just basic human interaction competency skills....
You're bent on picking a fight with anybody and everybody whenever possible. If that's you...cool...do you... I'm not about that kinda drama though... I'll happily have a respectful dialogue and when that gets off kilter i'll inject some disrespect...because that's human nature...


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391874, you got it, champ
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:24 PM
13391790, do you go to black owned movie theaters or grocery stores?
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 10:16 AM
are you communicating to me on a computer/phone/tablet that was made by a black business?

assuming you drive, is your vehicle made by a black manufacturer?

do you watch Netflix? buy water? ever eaten at a steakhouse? do you stream music on Apple or Spotify? do you watch videos on YouTube? ever been on Facebook or used Google to search for anything? is your email address through a black company?

explain the difference with okayplayer.com not being black owned. is it because it was a hub for neo-soul niggas two decades ago? guess what, The Roots (newsflash: they're employed by white ass Jimmy Fallon at white ass NBC now), Common, D'Angelo and all of them were signed to white record labels

13391797, We get it....All Lives Matter to you.... do your thing brah....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 10:40 AM
>are you communicating to me on a computer/phone/tablet that
>was made by a black business?
>
>assuming you drive, is your vehicle made by a black
>manufacturer?
>
>do you watch Netflix? buy water? ever eaten at a steakhouse?
>do you stream music on Apple or Spotify? do you watch videos
>on YouTube? ever been on Facebook or used Google to search for
>anything? is your email address through a black company?
>
>explain the difference with okayplayer.com not being black
>owned. is it because it was a hub for neo-soul niggas two
>decades ago? guess what, The Roots (newsflash: they're
>employed by white ass Jimmy Fallon at white ass NBC now),
>Common, D'Angelo and all of them were signed to white record
>labels
>
>


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391803, Not sure why this question is so upsetting to some folk
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 11:21 AM
Once again people being weird
13391841, show me where I've come at anyone like I was upset
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 01:43 PM
13391849, Your whole vibe is upset yo... Be Nice yo...
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:53 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391852, have a great day, fuckboy
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 01:59 PM
that's me being nice after you threw All Lives Matter at me
13391854, I'm thoroughly enjoying my day. Thank you for the warm wishes!
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:00 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391861, Welp
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 02:09 PM
13391850, This whole exchange with Fluid
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 01:54 PM
I mean.. it was once owned by Quest so I’m not sure why asking who owns it now is such a big deal

Your list of white people inventions is weird.
13391823, what a fucking weirdo. you typed that on the white owned internet btw
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 12:54 PM
13391832, Why are you so upset about this? lol. And what is with all this white internet
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:25 PM
stuff you're going on about?
13391839, you're either slow or a clown. maybe both
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 01:36 PM
you said "We get it....All Lives Matter to you.... do your thing brah..."

as if Im against Black Lives Matter because I dont care who owns this website

white people are behind most of the things you enjoy
13391847, White people are behind most things we enjoy? Oh boy
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 01:52 PM
13391851, yes.
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 01:57 PM
The NBA/NFL
Martin and In Loving Color were on Fox
The Wayans Brothers was on WB (as in Warner Brothers)
Dave Chappelle has been backed by Comedy Central/Netflix money
any classic rap or R&B album that wasnt independently funded, a white system put it out


if we're not talking soul food restaurants, name something black people enjoy that's funded with black money
13391859, Seems most of your enjoyment is TV and Music based
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 02:05 PM
but there is more than that in this world.

There was a time when this site was Black owned. At least I thought so in the early days. Maybe white people who paid The Roots for shows are also responsible for this creation.

Ionno, just seems like you can’t fathom Black people creating anything but soul food. We have more Black owned businesses besides food in the South.
13391865, The Roots couldnt exist without white backing
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:15 PM
Geffen/MCA/Def Jam/NBC/Pandora/IHeartRadio have been their employers

Ticketmaster/Live Nation or whoever people bought show tickets through

the concert venues they performed at

that aside, pretending it's an issue whether this site is black owned or not is ridiculous
13391901, No.. they definitely existed before they signed a deal
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-02-20 05:32 PM
the record label def amplified their sound tho

13391853, Sorry, We get it...you don't care who owns this site...
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:59 PM
Because nothing else is owned by black people...so it doesn't matter.
Black ownership doesn't matter to you.
Cool..
Do you brah....

>you said "We get it....All Lives Matter to you.... do your
>thing brah..."
>
>as if Im against Black Lives Matter because I dont care who
>owns this website
>
>white people are behind most of the things you enjoy



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391860, I dont care who owns the site because I still choose to post here
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:07 PM
I shop at Whole Foods and on Amazon
when the world opens back up, I'll get on airplanes

tying this to "you dont care about black ownership" is weird, but that's been you this whole post
13391864, How does caring about ownership = the things you're saying it equals???
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:14 PM
Most logical people have the capacity to do both.
Some people (probably most) like to know the origin/source/ownership/supplier/etc. of the things they consume and participate in....
So I really don't get this leap you keep making to say that MY desire to know ownership =. my desire to only exclusively participate in things that are black owned. I never said that anywhere.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391867, I've repeatedly pointed out how stupid you look
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:18 PM

>So I really don't get this leap you keep making to say that MY
>desire to know ownership =. my desire to only exclusively
>participate in things that are black owned.

now you look more stupid putting words in my mouth
13391871, Anybody that thinks I look stupid in this post because of my question, reply here
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:22 PM
reply here....
If it leans that way....I'll take my L and keep it moving....
again...
I asked a straight forward question...got a straight forward answer...
You added a whole bunch extra in there based on your own agenda or whatever....I responded to every one of your statements in a pretty clear and straightforward fashion....

Yet...I'm the stupid looking one?
Ok.

>
>>So I really don't get this leap you keep making to say that
>MY
>>desire to know ownership =. my desire to only exclusively
>>participate in things that are black owned.
>
>now you look more stupid putting words in my mouth


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391875, now I have an agenda. amazing
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:25 PM
13391876, *looks through thread*... it would appear so.....a very strange one at that
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:26 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391877, I've been trying to end this for a minute, but I'll bite
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:30 PM
what's my agenda?

put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap, let me know what agenda you come up with surrounding this discussion
13391879, me defining your agenda is about as dumb as you having an issue with my
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:32 PM
Original question.....

it's 3:30, my work day is over so I'm logging off....
we can pick this up later....
see you on the flip side....

>what's my agenda?
>
>put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap, let me know
>what agenda you come up with surrounding this discussion


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391883, so you dont have to make clear points?
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 02:42 PM
you: is this site that we're on even black owned?

me: why? we're still gonna be here either way

you: no reason. it just matters that I know

me: that makes no sense

you: because you have an agenda

me: what agenda?

you: I dont have to answer that. also, you had an issue with my question

me: not really, I just asked what difference it made

you: agenda
13391780, I'll say this....
Posted by Airbreed, Thu Jul-02-20 09:54 AM
Like yourself and many other charters, I've been hanging in and around these parts for 15+ years.

And there's definitely been a shift.

This site used to be an open vessel for fans to musicians and vice versa.

Remember that list of Okay artists on the old front page?

gone.

the okay artists that helped contribute to keeping the lights on in this place...

Erykah
Me'shell
BT
Common
Van Hunt
?uestlove

and so many more ...all used to post and converse with "us".

I remember when okp used to post lotteries to invite a select few to sit at listening parties of okp artists.

I remember being that lucky guy who was invited and went to The Roots listening party with my cousin at electric lady for The Tipping Point. I still have the pics from that night.

the banters between EB and posters.

the random wild stories ?uestlove shared openly

the meet and greets okps collectively had with one another in person.

the beat battles between okp producers where they posted their tracks and we would judge them.

bblock, tREBLEFREE, Obsidian Blue, etc.

yeah, there's the make the music page. but it aint the same.

Aquaman's conspiracy posts

and so many others.

the feeling of a progressive black community and cultures where you learned about new music, politics, food, and art from different parts of the planet that helped made you a better person for it.

because you either made new friends from it, or shared that enlightenment with your current friends with excitement.

because that shit was FELT.

But its changed. after speaking to some okp expats, i thought it was just myself and others who grew out of the whole scene.

but no. not entirely.

it's been noticeable for sometime now. a change of the guard during the dead of night? All i know is it doesn't take much intuition to know and feel that the love that was put into this site is gone.



13391794, i still hate myself for missing that...
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Thu Jul-02-20 10:24 AM
...checked my inbox too late that day ..was working on spring street too would have taken me a few minutes to walk there



13391814, ?
Posted by infin8, Thu Jul-02-20 11:58 AM
so all the 'blackness' you thought you felt has gone and been replced by corporate ad banners?

are we the cool black friends now?

have we aged out of the game?

hmm
13391904, what a bizarre reply..
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Thu Jul-02-20 06:49 PM
..i was replying to Airbreed about the listening party, weirdo




13394279, i'll never forget it
Posted by Airbreed, Mon Jul-20-20 08:05 AM
>...checked my inbox too late that day ..was working on spring
>street too would have taken me a few minutes to walk there
>
>
>
>

that's sucks. i remember meeting malice while waiting at the front door that day. she was cool. also met a few others once we all got in. introducing ourselves by our okp handles. lol

it was a nice experience.

13391816, might try and pull up some OG Aquaman posts
Posted by Amritsar, Thu Jul-02-20 12:23 PM
him and Orfeo


I'll always love this place
13391905, wasnt orfeo AFKAP?
Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Jul-02-20 06:58 PM

>him and Orfeo
>
>
>I'll always love this place
13392021, AFKAP = Orfeo
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sat Jul-04-20 07:21 PM
But wasn't Aqua____ the guy from OkayActivist?
13392636, yeah Aqua pretty much took over activist
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Jul-08-20 09:22 PM
13392032, ohh I think so. Little rusty on that one
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Jul-05-20 06:26 AM
orfeo definitely had other usernames
13392637, yeah i looked shortly after asking. that was him
Posted by Mynoriti, Wed Jul-08-20 09:24 PM
13391906, Lies. The internet evolved. That’s it LOL
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 06:58 PM
Lets stop pretending that us old OKPs were part of some great golen era. Other platforms came out and OKP got left behind its just that simple. But to act like charter members left because a shift in the community etc is funny to me when we both (and some of you others know) all you fools do in your secret Facebook page is STILL bicker over bullshit and post nakeds. Yeah a real moving cultural experience of mature titties and dick pics LOL


----------

IG @erichrigonan
13391909, tg some said it
Posted by rdhull, Thu Jul-02-20 08:00 PM
>Lets stop pretending that us old OKPs were part of some great
>golen era. Other platforms came out and OKP got left behind
>its just that simple. But to act like charter members left
>because a shift in the community etc is funny to me when we
>both (and some of you others know) all you fools do in your
>secret Facebook page is STILL bicker over bullshit and post
>nakeds. Yeah a real moving cultural experience of mature
>titties and dick pics LOL
>
>
>----------
>
>IG @erichrigonan
13391911, The RE’s were just Neo Soul Comic Con LOL
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 08:09 PM

----------

IG @erichrigonan
13391921, Neo-Soul ComicCon is wild as shit.
Posted by atruhead, Thu Jul-02-20 10:10 PM
13391916, Watch my post alert the FB group now cause someone read it LMAO
Posted by Heinz, Thu Jul-02-20 08:56 PM
The happened before


----------

IG @erichrigonan
13391937, Shots fired
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Jul-03-20 08:47 AM
13394274, stop making shit up
Posted by Airbreed, Mon Jul-20-20 07:52 AM
>Lets stop pretending that us old OKPs were part of some great
>golen era. Other platforms came out and OKP got left behind
>its just that simple. But to act like charter members left
>because a shift in the community etc is funny to me when we
>both (and some of you others know) all you fools do in your
>secret Facebook page is STILL bicker over bullshit and post
>nakeds. Yeah a real moving cultural experience of mature
>titties and dick pics LOL
>
>
>----------
>
>IG @erichrigonan


I'm speaking about my experiences with this site. obviously yours was different. so no one is pretending shit. the net evolved but i don't know about any secret facebook pages. what i do know is the older okps that ive talked to, it was a golden era. if you don't see it that way, then that's you. everyone's experience was different.
13392916, but also: we were looking for community then, and now we're grown.
Posted by Triptych, Fri Jul-10-20 03:22 PM
.
13394291, Agreed on all of those points. I lurk occasionally out of nostalgia
Posted by Mouse Alexander, Mon Jul-20-20 08:52 AM
but it is not close to the same.

The connection to the artists and the community of fans was what made this place truly special. That Tipping Point party was great. I couldn't believe I was hanging out at Electric Lady. Also, the taping at Webster Hall and the drunken intermission (shots and shots and shots and shots) is something I remember fondly. It was a special time.
13391785, I kinda forgot that OKP actually "does" shit besides the board
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Jul-02-20 10:11 AM
here.

I haven't clicked on any of those links at the top of the screen in like 5 years
13391831, Brands get sold everyday, B © The Hood...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-02-20 01:22 PM
..Def Jam, Rocafella, BET, etc.

All those brands were once black owned/operated, but were eventually sold (in part or entirety) to grow the business overall.

Typically, the founders work to retain a substantial stake, but even that isn't guaranteed.

Triptych answered your OP with the very 1st reply, yet people are in this thread claiming that anyone with an "OK" next to their name is acting dodgy, keeping secrets, or being sensitive. RJCC told you that he doesn't know anymore than y'all, and apparently people think he's trolling LOL. You're asking a messageboard community to answer more questions that only ?uest or Thought can/should answer. And when you don't get the response you were looking for, people just run with assumptions.

Does that mean that I don't have a clue?

No. It means I know better than to speak for others when they can speak for themselves.

You can use the same parking lot for 20 yrs and never realize that its ownership changed hands several times during that span. Why is this any different?

The speculation regarding OkayAfrica is understandable, given the fact that people love to run with assumptions. Yet, Ginny (until recently) has always been front & center of that brand/movement and has told the story of its origins on this very site, but y'all never bothered to read it. As so many people have blatantly mentioned in this thread (and others) that they are/were only interested in the boards, but most of this current community never bothered to check out the rest of the site (even though we've been asking/advertising that since the days of the original splash page). How can anyone here feign shock & awe or surprise when they opted out of the very same info they're currently seeking?

I don't have anything to do with how much info is published about the origins or current partners/owners of this site, but we all know who the founders are and they're still involved (even at a distance).

I'm not sure what else you expect to be said here, but you're not getting the response that you desire because you're asking the wrong people.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13391837, Hold up...I'M not the one keeping the nonsense going. I'm good, my question
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 01:33 PM
was answered... I see I neglected to acknowledge though. My bad on that. Thank you for the succinct answer Triptych!

All that other noise is on them folks....I got nothing to do with that.


>..Def Jam, Rocafella, BET, etc.
>
>All those brands were once black owned/operated, but were
>eventually sold (in part or entirety) to grow the business
>overall.
>
>Typically, the founders work to retain a substantial stake,
>but even that isn't guaranteed.
>
>Triptych answered your OP with the very 1st reply, yet people
>are in this thread claiming that anyone with an "OK" next to
>their names is acting dodgy, keeping secrets, or being
>sensitive.

Yep. Folks wildin....

>RJCC told you that he doesn't know anymore than
>y'all, and apparently people think he's trolling LOL. You're
>asking a messageboard community to answer more questions that
>only ?uest or Thought can/should answer. And when you don't
>get the response you were looking for, people just run with
>assumptions.

please confirm you're using "you" in the general sense...because that's not me. Y'all already know how I roll...I ain't with all that silliness....

>Does that mean that I don't have a clue?
>
>No. It means that I know better than to speak for others when
>they can speak for themselves.
>
>You can use the same parking lot for 20 yrs and never realize
>that its ownership changed hands several times during that
>span. Why is this any different?
>
>The speculation regarding OkayAfrica is understandable, given
>the fact that people love to run with assumptions. Yet, Ginny
>(until recently) has always been front & center of that
>brand/movement and has told the story of its origins on this
>very site, but y'all never bothered to read it. As so many
>people have blatantly mentioned in this thread (and others)
>that the are/were only interested in the boards, but most of
>this current community never bothered to check out the rest of
>the site (even though we've been asking/advertising that since
>the days of the original splash page). How can anyone here
>feign shock & awe or surprise when they opted out of the very
>same info they're currently seeking.
>
>I don't have anything to do with how much info is published
>about the origins or current partners/owners of this site, but
>we all know who the founders are and they're still involved
>(even at a distance).
>
>I'm not sure what else you expect to be said here, but you're
>not getting the response that you desire because you're asking
>the wrong people.

Again...my question has been answered. It was a simple question....I didn't put all that extra on it...don't lump me in with that....

>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13391843, not YOU specifically...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-02-20 01:46 PM
..my bad, I'm addressing the entire thread in general.

There's nothing wrong with the question you asked, but you'd still be better off getting your answer direct from the source (instead of speculation on a messageboard), esp when that source still posts here.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13391858, Cool.... appreciate the response.
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu Jul-02-20 02:04 PM

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"
13392941, when you have to compare your sellout to other sellouts
Posted by seasoned vet, Fri Jul-10-20 03:47 PM
*yeesh*
not a good look at all

as if its impossible to keep things ‘in house’



13393031, There's more than one way to grow a business...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Sat Jul-11-20 10:44 AM
..I'm not sure you understand how that works.



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13393293, no shit, thats what —> as if its impossible to keep things ‘in house’
Posted by seasoned vet, Tue Jul-14-20 12:08 AM
means.

but your smart mouth ass knew that already.
13393298, last time that I checked © Nipsey Hussle...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Tue Jul-14-20 04:05 AM
..companies make their own choices about managing their assets and monetizing their platform(s).

But g'head with your rant about people selling out according to your limited knowledge.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
13398802, *bookmarks*
Posted by thegodcam, Wed Aug-12-20 08:06 AM
13398818, keen peep.
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Aug-12-20 08:39 AM
13399631, I'm curious when the ownership change occurred
Posted by dba_BAD, Sun Aug-16-20 11:27 AM
Should it have been communicated more explicitly to us?

I mean I guess I'm assuming it changed after "we" were established, and not at the very beginning. If that's not the case - ignore

I'm not surprised nor concerned that it changed hands

But in the spirit of this "community" (or whatever), I do think that kind of change rates, considering the mundane level of info that was otherwise regularly shared

Am I tripping or did these changes occur silently? Correct me - it's possible I simply don't remember when we were told if we were