Go back to previous topic
Forum nameGeneral Discussion
Topic subjectTHE STIMULUS CHECKS ARE PROOF THEY COULD'VE PAID BLACK PEOPLE #REPARATIONS
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13384825
13384825, THE STIMULUS CHECKS ARE PROOF THEY COULD'VE PAID BLACK PEOPLE #REPARATIONS
Posted by rdhull, Wed Dec-31-69 07:00 PM
a statement posed elsewhere for discussion

Poll question: THE STIMULUS CHECKS ARE PROOF THEY COULD'VE PAID BLACK PEOPLE #REPARATIONS

Poll result (23 votes)
damn skippy (14 votes)Vote
nah, its deeper than that (9 votes)Vote

  

13384828, lol
Posted by FLUIDJ, Thu May-21-20 06:53 AM
13384833, wtf is deeper than that
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu May-21-20 08:09 AM
>
13384844, how much should we get? who all should qualify?
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu May-21-20 09:13 AM
i definitely agree if they WANTED to they couldve given us reparations. but there are some legit logistical questions as to how it'd take shape.
13384835, Definitely.. but you see how white people acting after $1200
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 08:16 AM
Pretty sure that civil war would start immediately if we got reparations.

13384837, Would be much more than 1200 a person
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-21-20 08:50 AM
Too lazy to do the math on if we took that 1200 that went to every American and instead sent it to black America as reparations.


I feel like it still wouldn’t be enough to fully account for the injustice
13384841, no shit
Posted by rdhull, Thu May-21-20 09:00 AM
>Too lazy to do the math on if we took that 1200 that went to
>every American and instead sent it to black America as
>reparations.
>
>
>I feel like it still wouldn’t be enough to fully account for
>the injustice
13384843, RE: Would be much more than 1200 a person
Posted by infin8, Thu May-21-20 09:07 AM

>
>I feel like it still wouldn’t be enough to fully account for
>the injustice

^^definitely not enough.
13384848, Roughly $9,230 but reparations is much more than a check
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu May-21-20 09:18 AM
as I state below.
13384845, People are still thinking of reparations as just a check.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu May-21-20 09:13 AM
Which is very flawed. If it lived up to its name, it would include job guarantees, free tuition, talk therapy, etc. It would *repair* what slavery, Jim Crow, and all these years of marginalization did to descendants of slavery. So much more than a check.
13384849, Way more interested in grants, free tuition, tuition forgiveness, land, etc
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 09:23 AM
13384863, land
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu May-21-20 10:49 AM
remember 40 acres and a mule? it was going to pass and was shot down
by a racist president. all they had to do was pass that and some of
this could have been mended but no. and here we are today 2020 with
so many more problems.
13384866, They knew land would put us way ahead of the game.
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 11:14 AM
They will never give us land.

My wife is from a small port town outside of Wilmington. It was mostly a Black port. When Black folk owned land on the water it was labeled high risk, bad soil.. you couldn’t build on it.

Once they sold it to white folk all a sudden the land was valuable and you could build on it. My wife’s fam built a ton of houses and some of them still own farms.

13384884, real estate is arguably the most valuable thing you can own.
Posted by PROMO, Thu May-21-20 12:18 PM
i mean, disenfranchising black people of land/home ownership was one of the worst things this country ever did to black americans.

that's automatic generational wealth even if you have no other assets.
13384894, ...
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu May-21-20 02:08 PM
>
13384895, gullah geechee?
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu May-21-20 02:12 PM
they dug up that land and put golf courses and resorts on them, it's all up and
down the "low country" in mostly south carolina (hilton head) to georgia,
13384901, Nah.. Southport, NC.
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 03:15 PM
Real close to SC tho.
13384864, ^
Posted by Brew, Thu May-21-20 10:59 AM
13384870, RE: People are still thinking of reparations as just a check.
Posted by rdhull, Thu May-21-20 11:40 AM
>Which is very flawed. If it lived up to its name, it would
>include job guarantees, free tuition, talk therapy, etc. It
>would *repair* what slavery, Jim Crow, and all these years of
>marginalization did to descendants of slavery. So much more
>than a check.

Exactly... the premise of the post aka title was lifted from another place as I stated, and I stated let’s discuss. I just don’t want you to think I think reparations is simply a bullshit check... or casinos. However, the title of the post shows that they can do these things. Will there be consequences with the yahoo standard mindset of white folks.. yeah. But so what? However, it will never happen but my point is It IS possible but just won’t happen due to inherent racism.
13384882, RE: People are still thinking of reparations as just a check.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu May-21-20 12:09 PM
>Exactly... the premise of the post aka title was lifted from
>another place as I stated, and I stated let’s discuss. I
>just don’t want you to think I think reparations is simply a
>bullshit check... or casinos.



Oh nah, I got that it was just a discussion starter. I didn't think you agreed with it.



>However, the title of the post
>shows that they can do these things. Will there be
>consequences with the yahoo standard mindset of white folks..
>yeah. But so what? However, it will never happen but my point
>is It IS possible but just won’t happen due to inherent
>racism.



I mean... I think it shows that they could've done SOMEthing. A legit breakdown of how much reparations would cost is much higher than the cost of stimulus checks tho. If done properly, that would be to the tune of 8.4 trillion while they spent considerably less on stimulus checks at 290 billion.

Here's an article for anyone interested in where I got the 8.4 trillion figure from: https://medium.com/@antoniomoore/the-roadmap-to-reparations-explained-by-ados-3577db752213




13385399, people dont read
Posted by kayru99, Mon May-25-20 02:15 AM
lack imagination, and dont know history or economics
13384846, So they would've undershot the harm by magnitudes
Posted by MEAT, Thu May-21-20 09:15 AM
Spitballed a number out of thin air.
Fucked up the disbursement
Gave descendants of enslavers more and easier.
Then spent the rest of their time making sure that anyone that receives reparations doesn't get any government assistance of any kind and also can't get an abortion


cool
13384850, and sent a ton of money to tax preparers instead of people
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 09:24 AM
13384865, Its not just a check, champ...
Posted by Kira, Thu May-21-20 11:13 AM
Slavery, Jim Crow, the war on drugs, systemic racial targeting via direct and indirect methods etc etc... all need to be paid for.

We're talking countless decades of intentional harm inflicted upon one community. Tangible resources are a start but not the end. Get rid of this diversity minority bullshit too. Every social/ethnic culture can fight their own battles and stop using my community. Add that to reparations package.
13384868, No shit, chief
Posted by rdhull, Thu May-21-20 11:38 AM
>Slavery, Jim Crow, the war on drugs, systemic racial
>targeting via direct and indirect methods etc etc... all need
>to be paid for.
>
>We're talking countless decades of intentional harm inflicted
>upon one community. Tangible resources are a start but not the
>end. Get rid of this diversity minority bullshit too. Every
>social/ethnic culture can fight their own battles and stop
>using my community. Add that to reparations package.
13384940, you cant talk new ideas w/out the ‘but systematic racism crowd‘
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu May-21-20 08:38 PM
as if they’re telling you something you dont know already
13384873, the debates in here are why "reparations" will never happen
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu May-21-20 11:47 AM
13384875, Yeah? How so?
Posted by MEAT, Thu May-21-20 11:55 AM
13384886, Nah.. it ain’t because of us. Don’t do that.
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 12:32 PM
13384889, the ppl that got reparations: what did they have, we didnt have?
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu May-21-20 12:52 PM
no, not lighter skin color either
13384893, I’m not doing the “blame a negro” debate with you
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-21-20 01:52 PM
13384938, bc using shame and guilt against yt folk has worked great so far
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu May-21-20 08:34 PM
13384896, I don't think he's saying it's our fault...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu May-21-20 02:13 PM
I interpreted it as him saying the reasoning within the responses is the why we won't get it... reasoning such as, it would cost much more, white folks would flip out, it would have to include a lot more than a check, etc.

Maybe that isn't what he was saying, but that's what thought he was saying at least.



13384900, Disregard my interpretation LOL
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu May-21-20 03:04 PM
13384897, if we can't agree on it how can they? Lets not forget that the majority...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu May-21-20 02:27 PM
of this country probably wants to see us back in chains.

We see how divided the country is with what's going on today.
13384898, Engaging with your federal representative and expressing your views
Posted by MEAT, Thu May-21-20 02:31 PM
Petitions
Polling
Hiring a lobbyist, etc.

We don't have to agree on the particulars, we don't have to do the maths, all we have to do is advocate for it and ask for it to be pushed forward.
13384919, they see that as blaming the negro
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu May-21-20 05:17 PM
lobbyists and lawyers are the 2 things we never bring to the table

nope.

we want it GIVEN to us because we deserve it and its the right thing to do
13384907, Oh THATS why? Ok tom.
Posted by Brotha Sun, Thu May-21-20 03:34 PM
13384879, LMAO at proof that water is wet
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu May-21-20 12:05 PM
without economic leverage, it will never happen
13384917, lol.
Posted by Trinity444, Thu May-21-20 05:00 PM
who's having that conversation lol
13385222, When they start giving out checks.....
Posted by TR808, Sat May-23-20 10:02 AM
Best believe everybody gonna be black then....