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13381103, And folks will pretend your first point somehow doesn't count
Posted by Walleye, Tue Apr-28-20 11:32 AM
>The USSR threw wave after wave after wave of bodies at the
>Nazi's. 20 million Russians died to win that WWII. It does not
>happen without them.

If an American general recognized the urgent threat of Nazism and committed literal millions of soldiers to stamp it out no matter the cost and American lives were the ones who stood up and agreed to this exchange, we would throw our country a weekly holiday to celebrate it. Georgy Zhukov does it and he's a clunky butcher who blithely commends enormous human suffering. And the Soviet soldiers weren't brave young men (and women, because it doesn't dissolve the immense human rights issues of the USSR to point out that they were better at gender equality in some areas than we are) but brainwashed commies who threw themselves into the woodchipper simply because the state asked.

>Communism is the great enemy of Facism
>(Nazism being the more commonly known/used term in the US),
>not Liberalism. The US was on the winning side of that war,
>but the US did not WIN that war.

Yep. It doesn't require a blind assent to the USSR, especially the USSR under Stalin, to point out that they understood the threat of fascism before the liberal nations of Europe and especially before the United States did.