>you the typa nigga to think a producer could bring home the
>victory by playing that rare vinyl white label you loved in
>college from your street team record pool lol.
>
>the typa nigga to say he wished dilla was still alive cuz he
>woulda broke out some frank n dank and bodied everybody lol.

I'm not the typa dude to do either of these things.


>seriously tho...you seem to be under a false impression of
>what these battles really are. maybe you havent really been
>paying attention to them and the audience reaction.
>
>theyre not about technical proficiency. theyre not about who
>better monopolized their share of contribution to the
>production. theyre about who had the biggest records (and
>usually with the biggest artists). the most
>classic/popular/culturally pervasive body of work. the one
>that has the most that-was-my-shit's in the chamber.

Yea so in my response I wasn't really thinking just in terms of this battle, I'll concede that. I was just speaking generally that putting them in the same sentence is near blasphemous.

I just don't look at Puff as a real "producer" and I know I'm not alone. So that was the root of my response, I wasn't just speaking in terms of this specific battle scenario which I know is what you were doing.


>diddy is prolly the only cat who could match dre track for
>track in terms of sheer volume of hits and historical audio
>landmarks that they had their names attached to (do we even
>need to go into the death row v bad boy tie in?).

Fair enough, makes sense. But as a "realhiphip" head I'd rather see Dre battle one of his *actual* peers like Preemo or Quik or RZA than someone like Puff who, again, I just don't think of as a true producer but more a label figure and composer.

But I see your point about hits v hits, and to that end if they let Storch take credit for beats he just contributed to then this matchup wouldn't be out of the question I guess.



>shit scott storch may have had records he was the sole
>producer on but he also used records he only played keys on.
>and he got some of his biggest round-by-round victories
>against mannie fresh by playing creatively mediocre (but chart
>topping) records by beyonce and eve/gwen stefani. thats how he
>put him away and what most people talked about the next
>morning.
>
>cuz thats what these battles really are.
>
>if they announced there was a dre vs diddy battle next
>weekend...do you know how many people would be complaining
>about how wack the battle is because of what diddy did or
>didnt do in the studio? just you my man lol. the rest of
>america would be hyping it up non stop for a week.

Let's not be hyperbolic - it wouldn't be JUST me. Ha. And I'd tune in.

Again I just auto-react to these two being mentioned in the same sentence.


>you also seem to be under the impression that much of dres
>classic records werent sampled loops over sampled (or
>replayed) break beats (much like puff) but thats another
>discussion i guess.

One I'd like to have !