I mean i am waiting to see the polling but it doesn't seem as though there were multitudes of young people participating in the primaries
and that's already a red flag.

i don't know about 'we are in an anti-establishment' period.
i don't know where you get this from.
if the political arena was about establishment vs anti then the progressives in the race would've done *much* better regardless of whatever else and certainly the 'establishment'
its the voters that count and my reading is that the voters aren't where *we* think they are.

>I'm sure most if not all of us here will vote for Biden.

and i hope this is the case - but i am not certain
in 2016 the electoral win was based on ~a 70k vote difference (i believe - this could be wrong)
and while we can talk about gerrymandering and all that
i also think dems failing to coalesce around the nominee plays a role in this
and this will be the same case if we do this again.

republicans dont have these qualms.
we are here projecting failure - i dont get it at all

if we lose? its going to be because of this right here
republicans arent losing sleep over voting for an idiot