And great point on why Obama picked him, also.


I just don't think everyone should ignore someone who actually wins big in the rust belt.


And I agree with you on people discounting how disliked/hated Hillary was. I was right there with you in '16.

Biden wouldn't have that, nor the extra sexism she faced.


But there were (are) people who fucking loved her too. Joe doesn't have that. I know seeing him and Obama out there campaigning would get folks in the feels, but Obama can't be on that debate stage with him.

I don't know man. I get your points, just not sold.