The below (with a lot of added context) is exactly where I'm at on Warren, Bernie, Biden, and even Beto.

I was 100% team Warren before the bullshit w/Bernie. Now I can't call it.


>warren i believe would make the best president. she presents
>the best case for recalibrating the scales back toward the
>working class without coming off like a vigilante against the
>rich (why suburban and wealthy whites are comfortable with
>her). her proposals are sensible and measured and seem to be
>formulated for the best chance of actually bringing people on
>board and passing (oddly she has given more effort to detail
>things than bernie has when it comes to policies that bernie
>supporters claim she stole from him). shes far and away the
>best pitch person for an actual mapped out agenda. her
>greatest ability is her presentation of information to flat
>out teach those who arent yet educated (her professional
>trade).
>
>but shes struggling to make inroads on a broad level with
>folks outside of college educated white people. shes spent
>most of her career being barely above water in her own home
>state (the most educated state in america where those voters
>obviously boost her). and i acknowledge her vulnerabilities
>for simply being a woman in america (i posted that poll a
>while ago that shows how far the drop off is between men and
>women candidates among white non college educated
>voters...regardless of where they actually are on the
>ideological spectrum).
>
>---
>
>personally im closer to bernie in terms of ideology. but i
>have doubts about his ability to effectively govern, his
>desire to lift the entire party (like downballot candidates)
>especially those who arent ideologically aligned with him, and
>his desire to negotiate/compromise to get anything passed.
>anyone who has spent half their adult life in congress yet
>only has 7 bills to their name (2 being post office namings)
>says a lot
>(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPYQaLLVAAEwvi9?format=png&name=900x900).
> it also says a lot that you could barely drum up more
>congressional allies/endorsements for your initial prez run
>than martin omalley (someone who never worked in congress and
>never had political exposure outside his state of maryland).
>
>basically i think he is a great activist with a penchant for
>pushing important issues to the forefront. but not a good
>administrative politician when it comes to navigating
>different terrain outside his wheelhouse and developing an
>allied coalition that leads to sustained success for the
>*entire* team (no matter how incremental).
>
>go big or go home doesnt really work as a legislative agenda
>(outside of immediately following a disaster when theres an
>overwhelming appetite for self-correction). i think he is
>misreading the broader electorate here in terms of them voting
>for big bold radical (uncertain) change right now. at least
>in perceived spite of political/social stability. we have
>only taken substantial progressive leaps in modern history
>after the great depression/recession. when it became
>absolutely undeniable that the current system had utterly
>failed.
>
>but even if he won...none of his big ticket items have *any*
>chance of passing given our current political landscape (repub
>obstruction with no electoral consequence, filibuster, etc)
>which would make him a failure by his own measure. barack
>obama needed a virtual senate supermajority to get his major
>items passed and his true legislative agenda was basically
>dead after *2* years when repubs gained the house. a dem
>president with *no* signature legislation in their 1st term is
>a sitting duck for re-election (as are his/her party
>members).
>
>and he basically wants to reconstitute the democratic party
>back into a coalition heavily favored by the 'white working
>class' but that ship sailed a long time ago. and his
>non-recognition of that is a glaring blind spot. while
>republicans disproportionately/increasingly rely on white non
>college educated (largely male) voters (the voting bloc
>dwindling/dying off the fastest but who bernie has the most
>romance for)...dems are growing their coalition among non
>whites, women, college educated whites, and suburbs in
>general...the groups that are actually in areas gaining
>population and enlarging their electoral potential. any
>national dem party leader (which the nom/prez is) not leaning
>into those emerging groups is committing grave political
>malpractice.
>
>---
>
>biden is just a flat out shitty retail politician/candidate.
>not much appeal to me on a personal level. but hes a standard
>bearer (not to be confused with standard-bearer) of the
>general/generic democratic party platform...which is enough
>for me right now until we get trump out of the whitehouse and
>hopefully scrape away enough power from repubs at the state
>level to institute pro-voter reforms to our democracy that
>make it harder for them to cheat and gain/retain power.
>
>hes got enough of that working class (white male) identity to
>appeal to the rust belt while being palatable or even
>preferable in those blue trending suburbs in potential dem
>pickups like az, ga, tx, etc.
>
>just by the numbers...any dem prez candidate polling well with
>the majority of black voters and *30+%* of repubs is a damn
>unicorn in the current era
>(https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/99l8uafipkucdgbrwo95vw.png).
>
>
>regardless of what people tell themselves in their social
>media echo chambers...the votes are in the center. the
>midterms told us this. off year elections in va, ky, la, etc
>told us this. moderates just flat out have the best chance to
>form a broad coalition and win elections in the competitive
>territory you need to gain political majorities.
>
>if hes the best we got to retain that core obama/clinton
>coalition and continue to cement dem party gains in the
>suburbs (a gradual realignment that i fear bernie would fumble
>or even reverse)...then so be it.
>
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>
>sidenote: people can clown...but i wish there was a top
>candidate more like beto. cuz he was inspirational as a
>speaker (something dem voters require/respond to and something
>the other candidates are noticeably lacking). and he knew how
>to present himself as a moderate while he was personally (and
>i think would stealthily govern as) further left. the stuff
>he was saying and pushing for towards the end of his campaign
>pretty much confirmed this.
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