the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.
"Caribbean culture"

If we go with this Webster dictionary version what is Black culture?

What is the Black American way of life that you can say us uniform across the board with family, industry, diet, housing, spirituality, social structure, etc etc etc?

How was your weekend before you put that stick into the hornets nest.

I'm a man sir and I'm ok just work, learning and little Netflix. How bout yourself?

I really want to see the thought process and if folks are willing to be honest about this subject.

I week or so ago I asked when did the stolen Africans become Black Americans so this is a progression of that question

Work through this question?

via playing on tribalism.

Yoruba vs Fon

Fante vs Akan

Wolof vs Fula

Igbo vs Yoruba

Hausa vs Edo

etc etc etc etc etc

Oddly enough we are comprised of all these groups and more

Folks that say otherwise are usually the types to reference shallow shit like Hip Hop, television shows & movies, hair grease, etc. and use those as examples of "Black Culture"

different Black cultures or is there no Black culture?

I lean towards the later.

Global meaning the overall scope for US Black people. There are some threads that connect al of us, but that alone doesn't make a culture.

I think hard concepts about race, culture and ethnicity had much more power behind them in centuries/millennia past because people were more separated geographically, by race, by ethnicity, by language, etc. There are many places in the word where these separations still exist (monoculturalism), but the US is increasingly not one of those places.

areas say post 1865 or even with the free people pre 1865?

What are some examples of those micro cultures?

Unspoken but well known and established ways of interaction, rules, level of respect for each other based on traditions, transgressions and general understandings rooted in an underlying sense of obligation to uphold and carry on and move on.

There are deviations...of course...
The Black Family vibe.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Informed via the culture of Blackness?

Black Industry vibe is that of always being the underdog and a never ending quest to prove worth & value.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Seasonings?? lol...that's about the only thing I can think of that MIGHT be universal amongst Black people.

Black Seasonings vibe. You know it's right when you taste it, and know it's wrong when you CAN'T.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

we are amazing with it....

but mostly yes.
but the no's KNOW and it's a source of division...so from that aspect...I guess an overarching Yes is best.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Who else defines their culture via "vibe"

Are you joking or serious?

>Who else defines their culture via "vibe"
Probably no one...but that doesn't matter.

>Are you joking or serious?
25/75

there is no uniform singular version of black culture
i can define MY interaction in black culture which would have similarities and differences with the next person
Black Culture is the accumulation of all black peoples experience...which would be rather large and non uniform

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but you assuming what I or the poster are doing when taking part in a discussion...adds nothing the discussion
but if you have something to add...more than welcome I'm here all day

clearly the poster above you understood the question

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

?

we're all having different experiences depending on your locale, economic status.

most of the stuff that's called culture tends to be stereotypes that may be more true for some than others.

or we all have individual culture within our own person that informs how we operate with the world?

its also fluid and changes over time. food, styles, ways of life don't stay the same and of course there are those that don't follow whatever the culture trend is of the moment.

Can't different regions of the US (and I'm assuming by black culture, you meant in the US) have their own variations which then all make up a culture?

I'm no sociologist at all. These are just things that popped in my head while thinking about this.

the reply of uniformity is akin to morons that regularly answer questions with “it depends”

as if every question on this earth doesnt depend....on....SOMETHING.
but they cant help but belt that bullshit out before they answer the fucking question

Also, the fact that most of the answers thus far are shit like "Man, it's black culture is a vibe!" or "We do hair good!" or "Auntie's Potato Salad!" speak volumes.

I'm surprised no one has just up and answered, 'chicken!' at this point

*cape flying in the wind*
oh look!, he came equipped with his handy dandy Systematic Racism stick to beat us over the head with what we already know and understand to put us negros in our place.

But more important, I think, is your statement that "no other culture struggles w this question but us."

I agree with you...we run into lots of problems that other cultures don't have. But I think a lot of that goes to our unique history and standing (or lack thereof) here in America.

Maybe it would've been more helpful if folks replied, "It depends on ABC or XYZ." That might have helped move the discussion along a little more.

its these super woke asshats within our culture that develop sarcasm as a first language, who go out of their way to lash out against known allies preventing any meaningful conversation about our culture to take place.

with they #Actually asses

epistemology, spiritual practices, family structures yes.

These answers are telling.

Is American history.

That last one is tricky but I think it's there somewhere

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to absorb, assimilate and remix 'your' culture and sell it back to you.

Imagine being from Germany or of deeply-rooted German heritage; you have actually had a frankfurter..but when you come to America and hit a grocery store you see all this bull$hit 'branded' as 'your' $hit...when it in fact is NOT.

Really what is ANY culture in America besides, ultimately American culture?

That's not necessarily a bad thing. Like Chinese carryout is distinctly American and in my travels I've noticed there are things that do make Americans stand out and not always in a negative way.

but to what end?

does the stripping down benefit the 'thing'? Or does the stripping down benefit the person who is SELLING the 'thing'?

***I'm probably jumping ahead, but I feel like the OP is laying bread crumbs and trying to slowly walk 'us' to e philosophical destination of sorts.

I think he sees B/blackness as a product of America. Everything 'here' could be perceived as made-up, and maybe this dialogue will jog some kind of social awareness..????

I dunno...but I see some interesting points being made (yours included). I be feeling like talking sometimes...and cats don't be in here talking about shxt.***

>but to what end?
>
>does the stripping down benefit the 'thing'? Or does the
>stripping down benefit the person who is SELLING the 'thing'?

the benefits go to the larger society because it becomes more easily digestible while sometimes still resembling the 'exotic' origin.
>
>
>***I'm probably jumping ahead, but I feel like the OP is
>laying bread crumbs and trying to slowly walk 'us' to e
>philosophical destination of sorts.

agreed.
>
>I think he sees B/blackness as a product of America.
>Everything 'here' could be perceived as made-up, and maybe
>this dialogue will jog some kind of social awareness..????

yep, a by-product of circumstances that the ancestors (not limited to them) had to deal with. its mostly reactionary to the folks in charge, but that doesn't mean somethings aren't ours.
>
>I dunno...but I see some interesting points being made (yours
>included). I be feeling like talking sometimes...and cats
>don't be in here talking about shxt.***

***yep, a by-product of circumstances that the ancestors (not
>limited to them) had to deal with. its mostly reactionary to
>the folks in charge, but that doesn't mean somethings aren't
>ours***

I don't really understand what Blackness is tho

see my previous post about when did stolen Africans become Black Americans.(It was never given a definitive answer because there is none).

I wonder how can a people who have had their identity stolen to a high degree and live in a hostile prison like environment engineered to exploit, undermine and keep them in servitude possibly be a place where culture is maintained or cultivated.

Do we have fractions of culture sure!

Do we have isolated populations who have culture sure(Gullah come to mind)

But overall how much do you have culture when your name changes every few decades as a collective and that name was given to you by your colonizers?

How much culture do you have when your family structure was reversed and infiltrated to destroy any stability overall?

How much culture do you have if you get your "cultural context and identity" via mass media(which is not controlled by your people?

Because one can't exist without the other. So if so called black culture is fragmented or fractional then so is white culture. It's an illusion if one believes one of the two to be superior or more complete than the other.

Also psychologically both identities are inherently narcissistic and insecure and always have been. You're really seeing it manifest now in the so called white community.

Personally I think it best for our people group to identify as exiles as opposed to stolen, but regardless if we could have a consensus on an identify that was rooted in something factual we'd all be on a better path.

>
>Personally I think it best for our people group to identify as
>exiles as opposed to stolen, but regardless if we could have a
>consensus on an identify that was rooted in something factual
>we'd all be on a better path.

we're humans and do a lot stuff on feel, timing, vibes, circumstances, location, age, etc. The facts matter, but that's how most people tend to battle with day to day living.

so trying to get an agreement on identity will be hella tricky and like an exercise in futility. we can't even agree on African-American vs Black vs black.

What is the culture of born supreme?
Is that a product of individualism?
How has individualism helped so called Black Americans?
Yes it's hard to get Stolen Africans to agree on who we are as a collective for several reasons. To me the main ones are self hate, wanting to gain acceptance from former colonizers, and pure ignorance of our historical past which leads to self hate and delusions like hebrew israelite, aboriginal, moorish identity.
Culture informs values.
Whose value system is retirement homes?
The mother and father being solely responsible for their children? Viewing children as a burden?
Living for acquiring objects?

If it were nonsense it should be easily dismissed but one thing I can say for certain is that the Hebrew people were brown skinned, wooly haired, people and the genetics of the people currently in "Israel" are mostly European which contradicts the nature of Semetic identity but I digress lol

Totally aggree and that in my view is a large part of why we're having a lot of the issues that we do as a people

I'm hopeful it will change one day, but yeah...

war

religion

sex

health

family

entertainment/mass media

?

. I don't agree with everything he says but when people say culture all they talk about is music and dress.

....nuuuuuuuuuuutttttttzzzzzzz!!!!!!

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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

but 'we do hair good' and 'vibez' and potato salad have all gotten mentions

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

we shit talkin this negativity

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

it is not thee culture.

Up in here wondering if there is even a Black Culture did one existing in pre-1865 or whatever. Cut it out. You know there is a black culture. And you don't have to define it with hard and fast rules.

Your girl fixing you a plate at a BBQ is a part of black culture but that doesn't mean that if your girl doesn't do that she doesn't know black culture or that Indian Culture doesn't include the same thing.

Culture is not binary. Culture doesn't have rules..and yet, you know it when you see it.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

what is our collective agreed upon identity?

Origin story?

People give these trivial examples of culture yet we can easily identify the culture of people even without nationality like the Twa and Koori or the Adamanese.

How can a people in a colonial state have culture when the colonial rulers do everything in their power to destroy your original culture?

Both color identities hate to really look at themselves and assess what it means to substitute color and emotions for regularly practiced social customs engaged in to build communities, families, and individuals

Not dissing anyone but words like "overthinking" are what either group starts throwing out there when asked real questions. To me this is the inherent insecurity that's baked into white and black politics. Type of shit that makes dudes drive their car into crowds at the extreme end, but if we're overthinking we're overthinking and that's ok too.

as well as American culture.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.