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13439759, its tough from all angles but we were there for a reason...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Aug-16-21 07:46 PM
>95% of the press covering this White House will disagree.
>
>(c) nicole wallace
>
>https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1427367860507226115
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>we have a pro-war beltway media ecosystem that is severely out
>of touch with the population that it covers.
>
>like i said up top...the overwhelming reaction to bidens
>speech (that ive seen) has been that he is right and its no
>longer our battle to fight for afghanistan when afghanistan
>obviously isnt interested in fighting for itself.

I don't agree with that take 100%, a lot of afghan soldiers died in defense of their country, when we pulled their air support as well as other support the situation was doomed. When you're on the ground and can't call that "shock and awe" in from the air it changes the game significantly.

>ive seen some of bidens staunchest 'progressive' critics
>support him on this. ive seen anti-interventionist far right
>folks support biden on this (now theyve pivoted to attacking
>him on letting afghan refugees in the country lol). and ive
>seen general realists just be like 'we cant be over there
>forever'.

I even feel conflicted about that, I've heard talk about programs to help afghan immigrants but a different approach for from immigrants from other areas...

>his speech just cemented the sentiment and prolly even won a
>few more folks over.
>
>even conservatives like ann coulter are saying shit like
>this:
>https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1426954255169204224
>https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1427347489087184898
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>if theres one thing to give trump credit for...its isolating
>the neocon forever war cheerleaders from the rest of the
>republican base...and robbing them of that whole 'patriotic'
>talking point.
>
>america being the worlds policeman and 'spreading democracy'
>to other countries just isnt the knee jerk applause line that
>it once was anymore.

I feel like its much deeper than that, like I said above Biden inherited a pile of shit that had been steaming for 20 years.

But unless you indeed believe 9/11 was a "conspiracy" having a base of operations in that region was vital and its a threat to our national security at home to not have that.