>I definitely think he has pull in a Dem primary. I think it
>would bey unwise to underestimate him.

You're not wrong, but since he's just sitting back and either sending cryptic hints through intermediaries *or* being used as an edifice by people who want to spread their own messages, there's not really much to do one way or the other. He only lives about a mile and a half from me, so I guess I could go over there and ask politely for him to either fuck off or (and this would be the best solution) back Bernie.

Here he is in 2006 doing exactly that. The Biden stuff you mentioned is solid proof that your question is valid and important but I like this video as an example of the "how" he can sway people. He's basically a baby politically in 2006 and he's so ridiculously good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSBTNdxag4

>But if it comes down to Joe Biden/Pete or Bernie? I think
>Obama gets involved.
>
>His passive aggressive shots at Bernie and Warren are a small
>preview imo.

I bet no on the first point, but I don't disagree with your reasoning so there's only one way to find out. On the second point, I remain open to the possibility that the voices we are hearing aren't authentically his.


>Every candidate
>coming to his child's christening...

I laughed. Well done.

>Maybe, but Dems love to punch themselves in the face a lot
>more than the GOP does.

Scarily, this is true.