>>https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/26/barack-obama-2020-democrats-candidates-biden-073025
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>>
>>Do you really think he can win the nom? (Article alludes to
>>Obama floating the idea of doing his part to stop Bernie,
>>which is a whole other conversation if true)
>
>In regards to that article I believe it since there were also
>articles in 2016 about how Obama worked behind the scenes to
>stop Bernie then and also to stop his influence by inserting
>Tom Perez into DNC chair over Bernie surrogate Keith Ellison.

I'm not aware of the '16 stuff, but I do recall some of the DNC Stuff you are referring to. I sort of chalked it up to Perez being an Obama guy.

>
>>That said, even if he can get the votes, it seems to me
>there
>>are a lot of powerful people who don't want that to happen.
>>So when you start talking about the delegate game, potential
>>spoiler candidates (I'm convinced Deval Patrick is only
>there
>>to muddy the waters at this point), a brokered convention,
>and
>>Bloomberg basically laying the ground work for a 3rd party
>run
>>(to spook the party to not going too far left)...
>>
>>How likely do you really think it is that Bernie wins the
>nom?
>
>I am getting more confident. In the last few weeks there are
>polls with Bernie in the lead in NH and Iowa and he is back in
>second in the RCP average.

Interesting. Seems like polls on a lot of stuff have been all over lately though.


I don't know man. I think there's reason to be nervous about this. That whole "he's not a democrat" is not going away, especially if he goes far.


I'm seeing a lot of people in
>various places start to take him more seriously.

Any specifics? Just curious. I was very down on Bernie entering the race, but I've become more accepting myself. I don't think I represent anything though lol



Just today I
>saw a post where someone said Bloomberg jumping in was the
>final straw and now they were with Bernie to finally fight off
>this menace of billionaire influence.

Yeah I think Bloomberg is prepping a 3rd party run if its Sanders or Warren.

He's jumping in now so he doesn't look like a complete spoiler candidate if it comes to that. In fact, I think he hopes it comes to that because he doesn't *want* to run against someone like Biden.

I think he sees this as his chance to look like a hero, rather than a spoiler.

Tin foil hat shit, but I gotta believe he he doesn't think he'll win the Dem nomination. And obviously he isn't going to TAKE votes from progressives.

So...only angle that makes sense is he sees this as a chance to run 3rd party. Jump in now, build his campaign/brand, take some votes from Biden...and when its Warren or Sanders he can run and save America from 'extremism'

He's apparently flirted with a 3rd party run in like 2 of the last 3 elections.


>
>In regards to the 50.1 percent and the convention I might be
>naive but I think whoever takes a plurality in the primaries
>will get the nom just because the alternative is so
>unthinkable. If super delegates take it away from Bernie I
>could imagine a repeat of 1968 and violence and social
>unrest.
>
>
>

You would hope so, either way.