13357285, Cool. And yes you have been lucky lol Posted by kfine, Mon Nov-25-19 08:23 PM
> >ive been lucky to not REALLY need to see a doctor this year. >my calculation was that i would spend less paying out of my >own pocked without insurance than if i got insurance and had >to actually use it. it worked out this year but i know its a >stupid gamble.
lol
> >i think (would love some more details) petes plan would help >50% of the uninsured. the ones over 200% the poverty line i >dont really see how it would help them. if i can see what >benefits these people would get, how much they would pay then >i could be sure one way or the other.
Well, it's all out there. And no to my knowledge it doesn't only cover 50% of the uninsured, all uninsured (and currently insured) would be eligible. What differs, among other things, is whether folks are auto-enrolled and whether they qualify for no premium. For people above the Medicaid FPL threshold, they would go from being uninsured to having gold-level coverage for no more than 8.5% of their annual income and free generic drugs. That's not nothing. And the most vulnerable, indigent, people... like I said, homeless etc.. they are probably impoverished enough to be eligible for Medicaid so they would qualify for premium-free gold-level coverage and free generic prescription drugs. Again, not nothing.
> >my fear with his public option is that people would be covered >only by name. they wouldnt be able to afford to actually use >their coverage. nothing i have read about the plan has taken >that fear away. insurance and health care would still be too >expensive for most people.
I hear ya. It's a tough problem for sure. Thankfully, the public and politicians share the same sense of urgency. That's helpful even if folks are still deciding what path they want to try.
> >im trying to step back and think of what needs to change the >most instead of going full single payer. or full single payer >where everyone except the wealthy gets "free" health care. > >i would say people below 200% percent of the poverty line >should have free coverge, no premium, no deductible, no >co-pays. i would even say a lot of help with prescriptions. >this is any age. does the public option do this? >
I believe so. Maybe do some more research. Free/no-copay prescriptions are only for generics tho.
>second, the MOOP needs to be reduced greatly for everyone >else. people should not go bankrupt due to an illness. >
Well, remember out-of-network costs are capped too. Not the same as a MOOP, no, but it's still a sort of price-control and disincentivizes some of the stuff going on behind the scenes between insurers and hospitals. In the white paper the language seemed to focus a lot on basically outlawing suprise billing. So it seems he prioritized curtailing what and how the private sector can even charge to begin with.
>there also needs to be an adjustment to how the MOOP is >applied. if you suffer an injury or illness in nov/dec and max >out the MOOP it should not reset in january. at least not for >care of the same injury/illness.
Ha! Best thing I learned from that video lol. And agreed.
> >lastly, i do think everyone needs to have coverage available >to them that meets the above regardless of what their employer >offers. > >from what i have read the public options lack in giving >adequate coverage to people. the single payer options maybe go >a bit too far in helping people who can afford to pay for >their coverage. i think some tweaks to the single payer >options would be the bet route. >
I hear ya. And believe it or not, I actually would try to be open-minded about a single-payer plan that could work and is credibly financed (it would have to be passable and sustainable for me to full-on support it though). Warren "almost" got me lol, bc I do find her M4A attempt more workable than Bernie's. But now that more price tag estimates are rolling in, time to hold them accountable. Can't just be sweeping $10T-$15T deficits under the rug like that running for pres lol I don't care who you are
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