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13349259, by "win' I mean actually succeeding in impeachment proceedings.
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Sep-25-19 03:21 PM
>if by 'win' you mean in terms of public opinion (which i
>assume you meant since repubs failed to remove clinton).

No president has ever been removed via 2/3rds Senate vote to impeach.

It's not wise to assume that this will play well w/ the public - when most of the public doesn't follow any of these technical facets of government, and only vote on poorly informed perceptions of what's actually happening.

I don't believe that this impeachment effort is going to be popular with swing voters. It will rally up the left - for sure - but Dems do not hold the moral authority like they think they have. Most of the electorate considers both parties to be crooks at this point.

>trump has historically low approval ratings.
>
>the majority of americans have *never* supported him at any
>time during his presidency.
>
>a record number of americans *personally* dislike him (over 20
>pts higher than the previous record...g w bush during 2
>unpopular wars and an economic downturn)
>https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-record-share-voters-dislike-trump-personally-democrats-n1057036
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>and *60%* of people believe trump doesnt deserve re-election
>(during a 'strong' economy).
>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/politics/cnn-poll-trump-reelection-2020/index.html

Yes - all the conventional wisdom points towards Trump having no business even being President, let alone winning a second term. However, how many times has as sitting President failed to earn a second term in recent decades? Trump has defied all of these statistics and "expert" data crunching - and I don't think pushing for impeachment will change that. What will change that is getting behind a movement that takes the fight to him directly. Dems have to be ready for a street fight - not a faux civil impeachment proceeding.




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