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Topic subjectRE: Can we have a general convo about PC Culture / Cancel Culture?
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13345670, RE: Can we have a general convo about PC Culture / Cancel Culture?
Posted by Damali, Fri Aug-30-19 12:33 PM
>1. What is PC or Cancel Culture?
>It doesn't *really* exist.
>They're both white liberal, performative pearl-clutching. Such
>as they do exist, they only exist to silence, pathologize &
>punish working class Black people in general, and Black men,
>in particular. And occasionaly to quietly dump inconvenient
>white people.

I'm genuinely confused at how it doesn't really exist but does, at the same time.

>2. Who exactly has PC/Cancel culture actually harmed?
>Materially? Working class Black people, but especially Black
>men.

>3. What are the specific losses they have suffered?
>Like every other form of American Liberalism, discussions
>about policy and how material reality shapes lives is replaced
>by performative morality. So instead of discussing policies to
>alleviate poverty, or policies that push for a familial rights
>to protect our communities, we find ourselves talking about
>celebrities and media, as if the lives of millionaires are
>analogous/influential to working poor Black people.

All of that is the mechanisms of White Supremacy, which is woven into the fabric of this country and everything its about. I don't see how you can attribute any of that to a phantom concept called "cancel culture" that Black men and white men alike complain loudly about.

What you're missing in all of that is how patriarchy comes into play, and the harm that does to women, whiich is a blindspot of most American men...so I'm not surprised. It seems easy for you to see how things affect you, but not how shit affects us.


>R Kelly becomes a stand in for the sex trafficking of Black
>girls, when his situation is miles from the norm of how our
>Black girls get into sex work.

ah and here it is.

to be clear, he is a RAPIST, CHILD MOLESTING SEX TRAFFICER. period. waxing poetic on what he symbolizes gives the appearance that that is far more important than the extreme traumatizing harm he has done to those girls for DECADES.

He is the worst person to hang your "look how Black men are treated" hat. Sorry. nope. That's an epic logical fail right there.

>The VAAAAST majority of Black men aren't pedos, but because
>Kells is a Black man, we all have to prove we ain't Kells to
>the Cancellers.
>
>And then to show how good we are, we claim to "cancel" people
>who like his music, as if they themselves created the
>conditions that made it possible for Kellz to be foul as
>fuck.


i hear this complaint alot and you gotta understand his crimes don't exist in a vacuum.

His music, and the income from it, the industry's protection of him, specifically enabled him to have the means to do the things he did. So sorry, yes streaming his music or providing him any reason to receive royalties etc can be argued to be enabling him.

Whether you agree or not, you can say that isn't a valid argument.


>But we got no heat for label heads, radio programmers, Disney,
>or any of the white power structure that paid for and
>profitted from & promoted dudes work.

I have seen lots of heat in the that direction.


>And we don't even *look at* the real causes of sex trafficking
>and abuse in our communities.

who is we cuz women have been SCREAMING about this from the rooftops.

quite honestly, the people that don't want to examine the root causes of abuse in the Black community is BLACK MEN. Because it would cause y'all to have to examine your own attitudes towards girls and women.



>It's bullshit

I agree.

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