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13345570, Well - first, I'm not a Democratic Socialist
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Aug-29-19 07:50 PM
So I'm not the person to ask about forming some sub DemSoc group or party. I have no interest in that.

>Democratic Socialists seem to have enough propulsion to form
>their own independent party and promote candidates up and down
>ticket. Why is it that yall don't just go ahead and do that??

Again - not sure what led you to believe I'm a Democratic Socialist. I support Sanders because of his organized platform that addresses institutional injustice in our political, economic, environmental & social fabric. I disagree with him on how best to harness the American economy and creative sector to achieve those goals - but he has the fundamentals exactly right in terms of how to create a society that functions off a baseline of human rights and equitable distribution of resources and taxpayer money. Sanders understands that government exists to enrich the lives of ordinary people, not just to create grotesque profit margins for the most fortunate.

>But it does come across rather cowardly to despise the
>Democratic Party so much yet depend almost entirely on their
>infrastructure to pursue elected office.

The two-party system is (unfortunately) the viable avenue towards elected office. There are some outliers were Independents and third-parties have success on the local level - but if you want to compete and make institutional change, right now you have to operate within the two-party system. There's nothing "cowardly" about it.

>If there is so much confidence that a DemSoc platform is what
>the general U.S. population wants and needs, then why do
>DemSocs not put in the work, form their own party
>infrastructure, and run their own candidates for congressional
>and executive office??

Why don't we have a social libertarian party? And a cannabis connoisseur party - and a new jack swing party. Let's not be silly. If we had a parliamentary system (which I would prefer) - then there would be real viability and utility in having 3, 4, 5 or even 18 different parties where we'd have a more robust representative democracy. South Africa's system functions like this and it's a marvel and the world's youngest constitutional framework.

>So yes: When can we expect the movement to shed the whole
>hostile tenant vibe and stand on its own 2 feet??

Horrible strategy and position to take. Why would you ever want to warp your party and have a smaller tent? Unless of course, your ego was in the way and you were beholden to special interest groups. The Democratic party has become almost as corporatist as the Republican party - and that's precisely why it needs someone like Bernie Sanders.


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