i had to get the print nyt copy today
and can't wait to delve into these essays.
kind of avoided reading the online version cause i really wanted to sit down with a hard-copy
but here it is: https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/full_issue_of_the_1619_project.pdf


if you are reading...let me know your thoughts, which essays hit you hardest, etc etc.

kev

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i walked around for about 20 minutes in these hot baltimore streets trying to get a copy of the NYT
got one at starbucks!

i hope they make this into a book

So thank you. I would definitely like to read as well.

and its one of the most powerful things i have read
i felt the same way i did when i first visited the Black Smithsonian
there's a lot in here that I didn't know... and some that I did
I do agree with her that centering the narrative of the founding of this country
on 1619 forces all of us to reckon with the history we have been sold.
I want to read more about the reconstruction period- ta-nehisi coats we were 100 years in power was excellent in that respect
but would definitely like to read more books especially on the economic and legislative impact in the south

---
as an African immigrant to this country
it resonated with me when she talks about the immigration and nationality act
born of the civil rights movement- which enabled people like me (and many african leaders at the time)
to come here - and opened the doors, really for all black and brown people.


i recently found an essay online about malcolm X's visit to Sudan (part of my thesis is on the history of southern sudan so this was an accidental find as i was looking for articles)
i havent read it yet.... but just the find itself was amazing

anyway... onto the other essays

edit: forgot the essay: X Marks the Spot: Mapping Malcolm X's Encounters with Sudan
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B4tFMndZP5gmO4K3U38yItQktOXX08je

I read that first essay and was absolutely floored. I'm going to do my best to keep up with this.

She did an amazing job of tying the legislation that occurred in that period to the black lawmakers and their recent power.

The idea that poor white people directly benefitted from having these people in power is something that needs to be driven home to all these folks.

I had to take a break because it was that intense... BUT

I do wish there was a bit more conversation on the period from 1619 to 1705 and how the laws were solidified

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Runaway_Slaves_and_Servants_in_Colonial_Virginia#its2

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/capitol-men-philip-dray/1102540744/2661702699473?st=PLA&sid=BNB_ADL+Marketplace+Generic+Used+Textbooks+-+Desktop+Medium&sourceId=PLAGoNA&dpid=tdtve346c&2sid=Google_c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk_eViIeS5AIVyx-GCh0XowBNEAQYASABEgKEQ_D_BwE

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

by WEB Dubois

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

i will definitely read this.

https://www.pbs.org/weta/reconstruction/

I DVR'd the series. I think you can watch the full episodes through the link.

It was crazy how much white Southerners hated the fact that those Black men, from South Carolina, were essentially running things there.


I also learned that the public education system was devised by those same Black men.

>I also learned that the public education system was devised by
>those same Black men.

Thanks for the link. I'll be checking this series for sure.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

Like you, I knew much of what she wrote, but didn't know a lot of it as well. I'm looking forward to reading through the rest of this, along with subsequently checking out everything else that has been and will be recommended in this post (which hopefully gets more traction as more and more people read through the entirety of the project) relative to Reconstruction and beyond.

There are so many important parts of that essay. The explanation for why the "end of slavery" wasn't really the end of anything, how every fresh start for black people in America was cut short by racist white people, how current black culture was born out of the need of enslaved and oppressed black people to express themselves as the human beings they were and are, the explanation of why and how the oppressed black communities created blues, jazz, hip-hop, and black art in general, etc. etc. etc. It's like she took each repugnantcan racist talking point ("why do *they* dress like that ?" and that type of bullshit) and addressed them head on one by one. Including this critical summation:

"For centuries, white Americans
have been trying to solve the
‘‘Negro problem.’’ They have dedicated
thousands of pages to this
endeavor. It is common, still, to
point to rates of black poverty, outof-
wedlock births, crime and college
attendance, as if these conditions in
a country built on a racial caste system
are not utterly predictable. But
crucially, you cannot view those statistics
while ignoring another: that
black people were enslaved here
longer than we have been free."

What a shithole country we've lived in. I'll never understand my people's penchant for racism.

when she said (to paraphrase)- they had no choice in surnames, these were from their owners, but instead chose to come up with first names for their children.
I should find the exact quote;

"Black naming practices, so often impugned by
mainstream society, are themselves
an act of resistance. Our last names
belong to the white people who once
owned us. That is why the insistence
of many black Americans, particularly those most marginalized, to give
our children names that we create,
that are neither European nor from
Africa, a place we have never been,
is an act of self- determination."


Im mainly interested in reconstruction because she talks about attempts to create a more perfect union
by people who were half a step from bondage.
im amazed, awed and highly impressed by the profound humanity in all this.
;

- "With federal troops tempering widespread white
violence, black Southerners started branches of the Equal Rights League — one of the nation’s first human
rights organizations — to fight discrimination and organize voters; they headed in droves to the polls, where they placed other formerly enslaved people into seats that their enslavers had once held.

...They helped pass more equitable tax legislation and laws that
prohibited discrimination in public transportation, accommodation
and housing.
Perhaps their biggest achievement was the establishment
of that most democratic of American institutions: the public school.

..., the years directly after slavery saw the greatest expansion
of human and civil rights this nation would ever see.
In 1865, Congress passed the 13th Amendment, making the United States one of the last nations in the Americas to outlaw slavery.
The following year, black Americans, exerting their new
political power, pushed white legislators to pass the Civil Rights Act,
the nation’s first such law and one of the most expansive pieces of civil rights legislation Congress has ever passed.
It codified black American citizenship for the fi rst time, prohibited housing discrimination and gave all Americans the right to buy and inherit property, make and enforce contracts and seek redress from courts.
In 1868, Congress ratifi ed the 14th Amendment, ensuring citizenship to any person born in the United States"
---
America would've been a very different place today if white southerners hadn't prevailed and the jim crow era had never happened.
its a lot to take in and think about.

>when she said (to paraphrase)- they had no choice in
>surnames, these were from their owners, but instead chose to
>come up with first names for their children.
>I should find the exact quote;
>
>"Black naming practices, so often impugned by
>mainstream society, are themselves
>an act of resistance. Our last names
>belong to the white people who once
>owned us. That is why the insistence
>of many black Americans, particularly those most marginalized,
>to give
>our children names that we create,
>that are neither European nor from
>Africa, a place we have never been,
>is an act of self- determination."

Fuck yes - I loved that part too. Especially since in my teenage/immature years, I was guilty myself of side-eyeing "black" names like that fucking Key & Peele skit. Once I grew up and learned more about the reasons behind this (and of course, so many other things about the black culture and experience in America) I became (and remain) ashamed of myself.

So that portion of the essay was not only well-written and on point but hit close to home because of my own past ignorant, awful behavior/transgressions.


>Im mainly interested in reconstruction because she talks about
>attempts to create a more perfect union
>by people who were half a step from bondage.
>im amazed, awed and highly impressed by the profound humanity
>in all this.

For real for real for real. It's the bravest and most impressive story in American history, all of it. That the slaves were "freed" and despite the fact that it'd have been totally understandable for them to be selfish in that moment and fight just for THEIR rights, they had the foresight and vision to fight for ALL humans from ALL walks of life in this country rather than just their own community/people.

Christ. What could possibly be more admirable.


>- "With federal troops tempering widespread white
>violence, black Southerners started branches of the Equal
>Rights League — one of the nation’s first human
>rights organizations — to fight discrimination and organize
>voters; they headed in droves to the polls, where they placed
>other formerly enslaved people into seats that their enslavers
>had once held.
>
>...They helped pass more equitable tax legislation and laws
>that
>prohibited discrimination in public transportation,
>accommodation
>and housing.
>Perhaps their biggest achievement was the establishment
>of that most democratic of American institutions: the public
>school.
>
>..., the years directly after slavery saw the greatest
>expansion
>of human and civil rights this nation would ever see.
>In 1865, Congress passed the 13th Amendment, making the United
>States one of the last nations in the Americas to outlaw
>slavery.
>The following year, black Americans, exerting their new
>political power, pushed white legislators to pass the Civil
>Rights Act,
>the nation’s first such law and one of the most expansive
>pieces of civil rights legislation Congress has ever passed.
>
>It codified black American citizenship for the fi rst time,
>prohibited housing discrimination and gave all Americans the
>right to buy and inherit property, make and enforce contracts
>and seek redress from courts.
>In 1868, Congress ratifi ed the 14th Amendment, ensuring
>citizenship to any person born in the United States"
>---
>America would've been a very different place today if white
>southerners hadn't prevailed and the jim crow era had never
>happened.
>its a lot to take in and think about.

It's a ton to think about. Words can't really do it justice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/books/review/the-second-founding-eric-foner.html

Foner is absolutely one of the best on the period

I'm gonna try that.

I think there might be reprints forthocming:

https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1163542568774328320

https://store.nytimes.com/products/the-1619-project

Me. My folks. My sister. My MIL and my FIL

nephews.

And I'm keeping a copy or three for my own home.

As stated below, I want to spend a day or two reading these.

May just do that now.

*grits teeth*

(I hate when shipping is more than the actual cost of the item)

there's gotta be a better way to get copies.

i know I can't afford that much- was going to get a second copy
im going to just wait and see if they issue reprints

.
.

“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Looking for Good News: https://www.goo

Folks are price gouging on eBay. I've seen the doggone magazine go for a little over $100. The average Buy-It-Now price (not auction) appears to be $75. The newspaper front page/broadsheet* is more accessible, though, and I purchased a copy on eBay a couple days ago for $10.

In the meantime, I signed up for the magazine waiting list. The Times would be foolish not to print more copies ASAP.

On another note, it's nice to see folks showing extreme interest in a physical newspaper product...

*See: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1722/0531/products/1619-project-paper-mockup_1024x1024.jpg?v=1566252602

Yea I went around LA the Monday after it dropped but all the white Hipster newspaper stands had been ransacked...

Soon as I saw they were selling online... I copped...

Haven't received it yet though

with this.

these layout are so clean.

Reminds me of the Life Magazine project after Dr. King was assassinated
https://www.oldlifemagazines.com/november-22-1968-life-magazine.html


America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

https://pulitzercenter.org/lesson-plan-grouping/1619-project-curriculum

https://www.fastcompany.com/90393242/1619-project-powerful-nyt-magazine-series-is-now-a-podcast

Direct subscription link:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1619/id1476928106?i=1000447111833

i didnt realize she published The Black Book
so I came home and looked it up; it costs 1,895 on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-35th-Anniversary/dp/1400068487

i feel like they should reprint this.

and for many of us in the USA that came here via enslavement the 1730s to the 1820s.

What regions, peoples, empires, kingdoms etc. etc. etc.

Think that is the opposite of the point of the project.

They are connecting the DNA of America to Black People.

Culture, Laws, Ideals are nothing w/o Black People in America...

So that outside of Native Americans... African Americans are theeee most American cats around.

shown to me exposes how much the USA has done despite all the contributions Africans have made to this country to keep us as a perpetual slave class of people.

Our people need to heal but they also need to know who they come from, where they come from and why the things that happened happened so they will never happen again.

can see how vital Black folks have been to formulation of what is the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKO94TvTvaw

news stories like this have shown me over and over again how hopeless trying to be "American" is.

Our people on average have been here longer than most people sure but with all those years, all those contributions willingly and unwillingly what do we have to show for it?

I’m kinda of annoyed with this criticism.

>I’m kinda of annoyed with this criticism.

starting a people's history with an arbitrary date of being held captive?

If we are technical the spanish were on the main land usa 100 years prior with enslaved Africans and a MAJORITY of Africans in America of the forced diaspora were not stolen until roughly 1730 to 1820

>Don't care

.

Nothing.

that amounts to 'this apple would be better if it was an orange'

It's a valid criticism

you have to dig to find pre colonial west African history and from my experience the best sources are in French.

Don't care much about your annoyance more than I care about the dissociative disorder our people are collectively displaying.

Glad it's getting mainstream acceptance
Still a little sad that folks won't accept info about us, from us, unless co-signed by an institution like the NYT.
But we'll get better eventually.

this article...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/traffic-atlanta-segregation.html

started me thinking about Baltimore's red line.. which was cancelled by hogan....
currently mass transit in the city is just... shitty. the subway is one line, and the bus is so unreliable.
i think almost every city i've been to tells this same story

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/23/maryland-lawsuit-baltimore-rail-project-racism-larry-hogan

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/04/21/how-you-can-tell-larry-hogans-decision-to-kill-the-red-line-was-racial-discrimination/

especially in a lot of southern Blacker cities (ATLANTA)
.

https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1166826565344346112
"New Yorkers, tomorrow, Aug. 29, is your lucky day. We are giving out FREE copies of the #1619Project on 40th Street outside of The New York Times building starting at 10 a.m. until we run out. "

I’m on it.

I knew I could log on to OKP and find something :-)

Get the Hidden Colors films and HC5 if you want the real instead of this liberal trash. Its an attempt to intersect our history with immigration and lgbtq propaganda. Foundational black Americans did not "immigrate involuntarily" get the flaming fuck outta here.

On a basic level it's historically inaccurate because foundational black americans were here earlier than 1619.

I'm on the clock and in a hurry so cliff notes version:

Folsom artifacts from black skinned people, that's us foundational black Americans, date back 13,000 years ago. George Mcjunkin found the folsom discovered the folsom artifacts and he was a former slave.

Foundational Black Americans were here in South Florida in the 1580s, In South Carolina in the 1526, and around the time of 1619-1620 they already found people living for a long time in West Virgina prior to that census.

They dont talk about this because we fought the white supremacists back.

The 1619 date is religious pandering as well foh.

Why is Lil Nas X included in this trash? Hmph, look at that propaganda.

Making the evil right wing people out to be boogeymen ignores the roll of white supremacy from white liberals.

I have an issue with the theme of this as ignores the people that did these things within the context of white supremacy. It implies foundational black americans hit a rough spot and eventually got over it.

Don't try to tie the struggles of my ancestors with immigrants. It's highly offensive and pisses me off.

There's an advertisement in here for the color of change... Miss me with this black and brown trash. What brown people went through Jim Crow? What brown people went through slavery to the same degree as foundational black americans in this country? Exactly, miss me with this bullshit.

Foundational black Americans are not immigrants. We came to a barren landscape and built it up to where it is to the extent immigrants saw a better future and chose to come here.

which religion did you willingly join again

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

foh

>Get the Hidden Colors films and HC5 if you want the real

smh at you really sending me to youtube.

I don't know Tariq and didn't hear about him until people on okayplayer brought him up. I'm talking about the film universally acclaimed film hidden colors. Hidden Colors 5 is much much better than this trash.

You can't refer to Tariq as hotep and cosign project 1619.

>I don't know Tariq and didn't hear about him until people on
>okayplayer brought him up. I'm talking about the film
>universally acclaimed film hidden colors. Hidden Colors 5 is
>much much better than this trash.
>
>You can't refer to Tariq as hotep and cosign project 1619.

lol.

I just got use to ADOS and now yall hit me with Foundational Black Americans?

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

that start their history with being in CAPTIVITY....

Not the SLAVS

Not the fake Hebrews

No OTHER PEOPLE begin their "NARRATIVE" with being POWs

That is my fundamental issue.

To argue Africans of the forced DIASPORA are not American or have not made major contributions which have been understated, stolen or neglected is foolish to even address.

What I find more interesting is how the USA and the BRITISH COLONY has tried to erase the history and make a perpetual class of slaves(WHICH it pretty much has done to Africans of the forced diaspora)

THERE IS NO COMPREHENSIVE editorial in this manner on WHO Africans of the forced DIASPORA were before their captivity.

WHO FUNDED THESE INSTITUTIONS?

WHO CREATED THE INSURANCE POLICIES ON THE SHIPS?

ARE THESE INSTITUTIONS STILL AROUND?

There seems to be a schizophrenia in Black folks since our illusion of inclusion actually seeing ourselves as apart of this country when in reality we created it but never reaped the benefits of it and never will as long as we are the numeral minority and looking to our former enslavers to help us.

These people don't care that their spiteful ways hold them down look at Birmingham Al. At one time it was a twin city with Atlanta what was the difference one city was a little more open to allowing SOME black folks to have upward social economic mobility NOW LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE.

It pulls up short of the obvious, and flirts with becoming a liberal guilt dump.

sadly ain't coming.