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13352533, RE: I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement.
Posted by Damali, Fri Oct-18-19 08:59 AM
>>The statement that jokes that perpetuate misunderstandings
>of
>>disenfranchised groups are "challenging groupthink," and
>that
>>this sort of challenge is a noble endeavor.
>
>He said he don't get it. Why would you want him to pretend to
>understand?

He doesn't need to understand it if it has nothing to do with him or isn't stopping his life in any way. I have zero understanding of many things regarding other people's personal lives.

Just to go along with the current trend of
>acceptance?

Yes because accepting other people for who they are costs him NOTHING. it does not stop his life in any way or anyone else's life. yes. ACCEPT TRANS FOLK. period.

He put his ignorance on display which is a bold
>move for a celebrity because he knows it can cost him and have
>his career relentlessly picked apart.

being criticized isn't a COST. it's a part of being in the public eye. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the public eye is criticized picked apart all the time...whether they put ignorance OR intelligence on display. See: Obama for reference.

being ignorant in public isn't bold at all.


>Is the community so fragile that they can't be joked upon?

actually, yes because the community's lives are at stake. the real COST is to trans folk who are murdered, bullied, harrassed, fired etc. The trans community is fragile because they are fighting for their very survivial. If you can't understand that simple fact, you simply don't want to. You choose to turn a blind eye to this fact.


No
>people on the planet has had it as bad as the lgbtqia
>community?

So now you trying to play the suffering olympics? fuck outta here with that reductive ass strawman logic.


>Trans people have it worse than decimated African descendant
>communities across the globe? Jay Edgard Hoover had it worse
>than Martin Luther King Jr.? Millionaire Trump supporter
>Caitlyn Jenner can support a misogynistic rapist/racist but
>comedians cannot make jokes about her?

where did he say anything about comparing who has it worse? why do you think mentioning how much suffering some other group/person has endured supports your argument? like where did people stupidly learn to debate in this way?

LOL

>Trans suicide rates may be high

not MAY BE. they ARE. clearly, that doesn't concern you at all.

, but jokes are not the sole
>reason.

glad to see you acknowledge that they are part of the reason.

There are other things happening that needs to be
>looked into.

and you're going to do that? excellent!! Please update us on your findings and your plan for what you recommend should be done to combat suicide in the trans community.


>Nobody is stopping them from living their life. No laws, no
>call to violence; specially in this comedy special. Dave
>wasn't being dismissive, just not understanding the psychology
>of the new normal and the ever expansion of the lgbtqia (i.e.
>the alphabet people).

If you are not trans, you do not get to say what effect the special has or has not had on their lives. PERIOD. You are speaking on shit you have no way to know about. Fucking hell...like who the fuck are you to make such a declaration?


It's important to
>know the difference.

It's also important for you to learn to shut the fuck up about a community you aren't a part of and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

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