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13347585, RE: this was the first debate I actually watched
Posted by Mynoriti, Sat Sep-14-19 03:01 PM
>castro's swipe was dumb. if he would had left it at his first
>"oh you forgot" it would have been okay? but how he kept on
>repeating it was so weird.

Yeah i think if he said it once he could have walked it back after and said it wasn't a swipe at Joe's age, but the repeating it louder and louder was straight dickish on his part. But i guess if your podium is on the end, you gotta take your shot.

>what worries you about her vs trump? before i saw the debates
>i didnt know how she would do. everything so far shows she
>would do well versus anyone in a debate. she doesnt get
>flustered, she stays focused, she has effective come backs. im
>a skeptic so i do have a little concern she will pivot to not
>really fighting for what she says but i would bet she would
>fight for it.

I guess i still have an image of a school teacher trying to get the classes attention while the class bully is making everyone laugh, and I expect the media to report on zingers, and unfortunately that's all Trump needs to "win" in the eyes of the public. Plus you ever try to debate something with someone who is dumb as shit think they know it all? it's pretty frustrating lol.
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>M4A is weird. basically all of them do want the same end goal
>of M4A (except biden and klobuchar from last night). its about
>how to sugar coat it for voters. how do you transition to this
>M4A. i do think saying people can "choose" to join medicare is
>the right message and i can see her pivoting to this messaging
>easier than bernie could. my main concern is how do you get
>uninsured people insured NOW? im not sure how that happens
>under bernies plan unless theyre above 55 or under 18. what
>about the people between those ages that cant afford the
>"affordable" plans? wait four years? what are the downfalls of
>adding an option to get medicare like pete is proposing
>(keeping in mind that the end goal is still M4A)

I'm not sold on M4A this fast. Especially considering medicare for the seniors in my family I look after isn't exactly wonderful. They have medicare advantage which is basically private insurance that they purchase though medicare at a low cost but Medicare on its own was pretty frustrating. Now this may change if everyone is on the same system, but telling americans you're going to take something from them and replace it with the thing you think they should have is a damn near impossible sell. M4A is a good end goal, but I think a public option is a better route as far as the next step forward.

>i thought he got real close to milking
>the shooting but as a whole

Yeah definitely. I thought about it while watching but didn't think about it again until i read this.