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13343604, Smh more spinning
Posted by Lurkmode, Fri Aug-16-19 04:09 PM

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>Did you call out Nancy for meeting with Assad? Do you call
>out our leaders for not just meeting with - but brokering
>billion dollar weapons deals with Saudi Arabia? They are
>killing thousands of Yemini children right now. No outrage
>for that? Just outrage for an actively serving veteran
>meeting with Assad in an effort to avoid another Iraq/Libya?
>K.
>

Whether or not I call out Nancy for meeting with Assad, does not let Tulsi off the hook, what you are doing is called whataboutism. You can't accuse me and say "just outrage, for an actively serving veteran
meeting with Assad..." when I said I would join the chorus against Obama if wanted to meet with foreign adversaries the way Tulsi met with Assad.

No substance in your spinning.


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>Do you even know who Kinzinger is? He's an AIPAC errand boy
>who thinks that our entire foreign policy in the MidEast
>should be for the purpose of furthering Greater Israel and
>Netanyahu's apartheid, right-wing extremist regime.
>
>That's the guy you're citing to back up your argument?
>
>Yikes.

No I'm not citing Kinzinger to back up my argument. I am using him and McCain from the article, as a example of the red meat Tulsi gave to Republicans by meeting with Assad. Did you read what Kinzinger said that she stated about her trip to Syria ?

>
>>Senator John McCain, who went to Syria in 2013 to meet
>>opposition groups and was criticized by the Assad regime for
>>doing so, reportedly said Gabbard’s visit “send the
>>wrong signal”.
>
>Now you're citing John McCain? Who sang "bomb, bomb, bomb
>Iran" when he ran for President and never met a war he didn't
>like?

I'm quoting the article.

>Both McCain and Kinzinger were advocating *hard* for war in
>Syria. Is that what you're supporting? Why?
>

No I have no idea where you came up with that theory. My last question before I pasted that part of the article is

Do you have a problem with Tulsi giving red meat to Republicans ?

McCain and Kinzinger fed off the red meat.

>Thank god Obama didn't fall to the false-machismo pressure of
>"drawing the red line" because of his suspicions about the
>call to war with Syria after he acknowledged the absolute
>Clintonian disaster in Libya. Otherwise Syria would probably
>also be an open slave market right now run by ISIS.

Obama didn't do what Tulsi did so it's no comparison.

>In another world - we would've had leadership circa 2003 that
>would have met with Saddam Hussein instead of fabricating
>intelligence and lying to the American people in a rush to
>intervene.
>

So you think it was a good idea when Donald Rumsfeld met with Saddam even though Saddam attacked his own people with chemicals ?

>Are you really out here riding for the NeoCon foreign policy
>world view?
>

Nah that's just spin that you use to avoid the questions I asked. It's the same way you cherry picked the Tulsi Assad meeting that I mentioned as if I did not question Tulsi defending Biden or her vote against Syrian refugees.

>This is actually an illustrative exercise on how many
>Democrats (which I assume you are) knowingly or unknowingly
>parrot the Bush/Cheney doctrine.
>
>

You assume wrong I have criticized Obama, blue dog Dems, Schumer...etc
You are using whataboutism, and defending the candidate who met with Trump, tell me who is the real Republican parrot ?

Still no substance.