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13342997, No data to support my musings but: I feel like if Sanders won the nom
Posted by kfine, Tue Aug-13-19 03:57 PM
the only running mate he would literally even SEE as "on his level" is Warren.

But if Warren won the nom? I don't know lol... I don't necessarily see her selecting Bernie. Nor does Bernie come across as one who would enthusiastically agree to be VP. And if he DOES have the ability to tone down and play a support role like VP... I get the impression he would move like a shadow Pres/Dick Cheney of the Left (sorry lol I watched Vice recently), which doesn't strike me as compatible with Warren's leadership style. PLUS there's something to be said for the fact that if Warren is nominated over Sanders, that really should be taken as a decisive rejection of Bernie's style of progressivism by the Democratic electorate. As much as people like to group Sanders and Warren together, Warren has expressed clearly and explicitly in multiple interviews that she is NOT a Democratic Socialist. She LIKES markets, she just wants to regulate the living shit out of them lol and redistribute the wealth.

Tbh I think Warren at the top of the ticket would be most compatible with Buttigieg or Castro... maybe Booker (unless she went for a non-candidate, like Abrams or someone Deval Patrick-esque but not from her state). I'd be most excited to see her run with someone fresh... different demographic, different region, and harmonious policy leanings. But of those three, Buttigieg strikes me as the strongest match because he would bring the largest following that would (harmoniously) combine with Warren's, plus he's established strong momentum and raises money like crazy.

Ironically, if not for their weird increasingly contentious petty rivalry I see Kamala as the best running mate for Biden lol. I don't know if it could happen now, plus she balked at the suggestion during a press gaggle around the time he announced ("Umm, I think HE would make a good running mate for ME..."). But ya. They both appeal to the establishment set, could tag-team defending each other's baggage, and they both engage in a lot of doublespeak and flip-flops to obscure their less-than-progressive positions/track-records. I don't really see them vibing with any of the other top-tier candidates. So if the Dems end up nominating establishment, Biden-Harris would be my guess for the ticket.

And I know Pete is a longshot/dark horse, but if he managed to cause an upset a la Obama I think Warren would also be a good VP match for him. Harmonious coalition, harmonious policy positions, she has crazy momentum and would bring the experience and congressional know-how to the ticket that a lot of naysayers worry he lacks. I also think this would be the strongest ticket in 1-on-1 debate matchups against 45 and Pence. My only concern would be whether a Buttigieg-Warren ticket could sufficiently appeal to minorities. But I feel like Pete at least tries - he's got a black agenda, he's pro-reparations, he's pro-immigrants' rights, and most importantly he's responsive to feedback. He's definitely had his missteps... But a leadership style that adapts, takes accountability, and responds times 10 when blindspots are called out is much more appealling than the ornery, stubborn, leadership style boomers have been running with for decades (see Sanders, Biden, 45, Pelosi, Schumer, etc). Few minority candidates are cracking top tier, unfortunately. Maybe there are other democratic-leaning segments that can be targeted for turnout eg. Millenials, Generation Z, LGBTQ+, etc.