https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/incel-plastic-surgery.html#_ga=2.200441198.1131857599.1559047996-1366930337.1549645201

I'd swipe but it's long as hell and some of the visuals are interesting. Some folks just need to humble themselves and buy a hooker for the rest of society's sake.

aside from the obvious self care of working out and eating right. Therapy. etc.


I'm assuming most of them are gainfully employed in tech. Living alone. No kids - basically doing their part on this generation's decline in birth rates.


that demographic stays using escort services anyway. Legalize and tax that shit

These guys would view a sex worker as a worker. Just doing it because it’s her job.

Nothing about these dudes sound stable.

They hate women, hate society, hate themselves... just awful people who have a big ass hole in their self of steam.

Seems like most of them are cured or see the light when they get offline or meet a woman and realize they aren’t these evil beast.

I've only read excerpts, but I've read other investigations into the Chad/Becky thing (Chads are endlessly desirable men, Beckys are endlessly undesirable women, and Stacys only sleep with Chads because they don't even meet Virgins) that make it painfully clear it's not about having sex or not for these guys, it's that they feel completely overlooked by the women that they find attractive. They think if they look like Paul Walker, none of the other stuff (charisma, fame, etc.) will be necessary. The Kardashians of the world will have no choice but to submit to them because it's in their genes.


It's wildly fucked.


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They'd just hate themselves even more for having to pay for it and would probably take it out on the sex worker.

The main dude lived in the Netherlands...

that doesn't seem to matter

i give them a little credit for finally taking some self-initiative and not completely putting the onus on women.

These are shitty people, so maybe I don't feel SO bad about them getting scammed.

This will help zero of them get laid.

A plastic surgery face just gets you the date. These incels still gotta do the heavy lifting.

These dudes are insufferable.

Smh at the black pill.

I bet some of these dudes aren’t even ugly, at least not on the outside.

...when they can't get pussy.


Gonna be a bunch of angry dudes looking like the Joker for real out here shooting up shit in a few.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13324045&mesg_id=13324045&listing_type=search#13324936

Never saw the preview before, and seeing that with the context of this post is kinda wild.

who drove a van onto a crowded sidewalk and killed 10 people. I think the yoga studio shooter from Florida was, too, they're all trying to emulate Elliott Roger. There's an overlap between these guys and alt-right/white power types.

or am I conflating Neckbeardery? lol

People need to learn validation outside of strangers.

I am realistic as hell, I know I am not attractive to ever female on this world, just like I'm not attracted to every female.

This guys always sounds the same.

If i were better looking - well you're attitude is still shitty

Women only date good looking guys - thats not your problem, not every woman isn't attracted to the same guy.

Women liked to be negged - stupidest thing every. I remember trying shit like this in my early 20's, some girls found it funny, but most hated it.

I hope these men get emotional help.

body dysmorphia aside

i never got the whole "poor me, no one will fuck me" angle + their obsession with chads

because - these people are men and the rules are kind of different for men. women definitely like eye candy as much as men, however thats not the only barrier for entry.

a man will hang his entire reality on the looks of a woman - some will define their entire worth on the perceived attractiveness of their mate.

the men who love a woman ONLY for having good heart or good sense of humor or some other personality based characteristic are not as common as women who love a man for his character.

I guess I'm saying, if these guys developed personalities, cleaned up and improved their lives it would be possible to meet and date people - back in the day in my 20s some of the dudes who consistently dated the most attractive girls were short dudes with strong personalities.

but...the truth is, these guys have a sense of entitlement and feel that they are OWED only the most "hot" 10s or whatever...

fuck these people and fuck the society that birthed this shit.

>I guess I'm saying, if these guys developed personalities,
>cleaned up and improved their lives it would be possible to
>meet and date people - back in the day in my 20s some of the
>dudes who consistently dated the most attractive girls were
>short dudes with strong personalities.
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>but...the truth is, these guys have a sense of entitlement and
>feel that they are OWED only the most "hot" 10s or
>whatever...
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>fuck these people and fuck the society that birthed this shit.

Because they absolutely could meet someone if they really wanted to. But they don't want that, they want to have 20-year-old models who also share all of their interests dropped into their lap. They would never consider a woman that's closer to their level (like someone in their own age group or social class) and they don't want to actually put themselves out there. Everything they do is to impress other sad, miserable guys who hate themselves, instead of the women they claim to want.

I know guys who, if I'm being generous, have almost nothing on the surface to bring to a relationship. Don't make a whole lot, might not be in great shape, aren't musicians/artists/whatever interesting thing people do. All of them have been able to find someone.

I have known soo many superbad chicks with similar self-esteem issues that I know all of them are suffering from a disassociation with reality. It's all the same to me.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The more they buy into and latch on to this "incel" shit the more unattractive they're making themselves. Stop being a little bitch and acting like women owe you something. Get some confidence and self esteem. Them not getting laid has literally zero to do with their looks. Ugly people fuck all the time. This is psychotic and these people need to seek therapy.

given the kind of people that actually live and reproduce on the Earth?!!

I think its why young girls are so up on the makeup game in a way previous generations that age did not.


Same goes for the boys and what they wear. The literal image they're giving off to the IGsphere

and bagged pretty girls since the beginning of time... there's no science to that "Chad" shit, lol

Sympathy prolly isn’t the right word but I kinda get the whole body dismorphia part.

Are they crazy? Shit yeah.. will some of them kill due to their depression! Probably

but then I think about women who get butt implants
lip implants
dudes who get calf implants.
Bleached skin
Eyelid surgery

I think these incels are the worst of the worst of these types because they hate every woman unless they are raising a son. Wtf.

mainly cause i've never heard/seen a chick trip over some fuckin calves lol.

spend all day looking at perfect dude photos and shit. Photoshopping the perfect Chad (and I using it right?)

Only reason dudes get calf implants is so other dudes will look at them and get jealous.

FUCKING WHY?

but it's really low on their priority list

You either got em or you don't and when you got em, I say got damn!!! its a beautiful thing. I would have a difficult time being with a man who had stick legs. No amount of training will give you sexy calves. NONE

I don't ever want to see an implant.

What happened to just being a loser?

There's a response to this article (see below) from a guy responding to someone who said women don't need protection from men. Ugh, I wish I didn't know these mindsets existed...better yet, I wish these mindsets didn't exist:


@arfoire. Women definitely demand and currently enjoy a lot of protection. Police, subsidies, quotas, affirmative action, dirty/dangerous jobs (sewers, high voltage, underwater...)... The whole system caters to their this need and it does so by coercing men with intricate laws and extracting the necessary resources from them via taxes. Women are net beneficiaries of the whole tax system in place in each and every one of the Western Countries, while men are net contributors in it (1).

It is only natural, because women are weaker and must use protection from the state as a proxy for strength against malicious men. Saying women do not need protection is super naive and a problem with our society. Women are entitled and cared for to the point where they think everything surrounding them is free and a right. Many do not appreciate that the system has been created by men who worried about women. They still have the nerve to complain against the patriarchy today.

Now, is protection a "need" for women? We could argue that they can also pass without it, but they would surely get a rougher deal and face more difficulties in their everyday life. Therefore, it has been institutionalized women (people in general but specially women) need protection and that the state will provide that. Fine. Why not do the same with sex? Before, monogamy and religion would take care of it, but now that these institutions are down, society needs a new agent redistributing access to sex for the sake of equality and well-being of the whole population and specially men. Having no sex may not be a big deal for most women, but it is for most men given the greater pervasiveness of their desire to mate coming from having higher testosterone.

You say "you have no right to any other human beings time or body". Why are then women entitled to protection from the state? To water or freedom to walk the streets without fear? Who provides that? Mostly men do through taxes as we've seen. The state coerces men (people in general but mostly men) to sacrifice part of their will and wealth to sustain a system that mostly benefits women. This pretty much seems like women being entitled to the time and body of men, at least for the amount worth of taxes they pay. And specially because they have no choice on it.


(1) "Research finds that as a group, only men pay taxes" (Reddit).

Original Source: "The Distribution of Income and Fiscal Incidence by Age and Gender: Some Evidence from New Zealand" (2014).

Women say "My body my choice". Well, then why not "My company my choice" or "My money my choice" for men? Why do men have to pay taxes or make space for women in companies? The answer is that there is a general consensus stating that the particular interests of shareholders, managers and contributors will not be those of the general public. If left to their impulses, men will not contribute enough and companies will not provide equality. So the state intervenes and redistributes money and jobs in a more egalitarian way. Fine.

Why on earth, then though, do we trust women in their particular interest when deciding the allocation of sex? Shouldn't they be guided or controlled as men are to ensure that sex gets equally distributed? Women today choose who they have sex with, and they do so primarily (for the feelings) mainly with only a minority of men at the top of the hierarchy in terms of looks, height, status, money and shared origin; rejecting the majority of men for being too ugly, short, poor, low-status and/or other-race. Is this fair? I does not look like it. Hence why we need the state intervening in the sexual market to redistribute sex after the fall of monogamy.

No forcing women nor raping them. No. Just start by telling them what is wrong with acting on their impulses under complete freedom, and explain they need to share their love and touch with every man for the sake of social stability and general well-being. Pedagogy. If they do not do so and continue to be hypergamous, then intervene with the Promiscuity Tax. The tax will preserve freedom of choice, while incentivizing the desirable behaviors for the group at the same time. Money would be used to compensate incels for the discrimination they suffer, so they can attend the services of a professional (prostitution).

Noone would be raped nor forced in my scheme. At least not more than people are forced to pay taxes to sustain the system. Women have a responsibility with society and where they can help the most is in the sexual market, either by becoming partners and mothers, and/or sharing theirs goods with every man without discrimination. Hypergamy needs to be controlled for a healthy society as much as violence is.

but, yeah, incels are a group i've had my eye on

there is an intersection between incels, gamergaters, 4chan, reddit, twitter, trump, a-anon and the alt right.

Not forced sex...but like taxes.

Umm, that’s forced sex bruh.

This is why we need government, cause if civilization ever went the way of the dodo, we're all really fucked.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

To pass the time

I've felt similar frustrations when I was younger/before I got good at speaking to women

I lose all sympathy once it goes to pedo/rape/Nazi territory

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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

>https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/incel-plastic-surgery.html#_ga=2.200441198.1131857599.1559047996-1366930337.1549645201
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>I'd swipe but it's long as hell and some of the visuals are
>interesting. Some folks just need to humble themselves and buy
>a hooker for the rest of society's sake.

Plain old EXTRA AWKWARD!
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

...just be normal and not a jerk and you can stumble into some P.

Every dude can't be a super pimp, but most dudes can at least get a piece from time to time just being normal.


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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

if they didn't act like assholes and expect super models. There's a lot of cute, nice, interesting girls out there.

Like you said though, if they would just be normal and stop dealing w/other incels, they'd probably run in to some on accident.

Those three things will allow any man to find a nice woman to have a good time in life with and enjoy their company at least as friends until romance evolves.




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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

and are at least respectable. throw in some extras like intelligence and humor and theres no excuse for not being at least being able to meet some nice women. once you hit the 40s nice guys stock rises greatly.

the most swagless/corny niggas i know still get laid at least.