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13322125, People keep saying this but who, exactly, was pushing this narrative ?
Posted by Brew, Mon Mar-25-19 11:55 AM
>The narrative was Trump was horrible and Mueller was going to
>take him down. That is a very over-simplified version, but
>that was it.
>
>Mueller was/is a hero who will save the country so to speak.

Besides, like, LABeathustla and Maddow/MSNBC, where exactly was this narrative you speak of ? If anything, outside of Maddow, I feel like the MSM mostly ignored this entire story except to provide updates here and there when 45*'s people said "THE REPORT IS COMING". *They* controlled the narrative, and I don't think there was anyone in MSM (besides the aforementioned) or any prominent or relevant democrats in Washington depending on Mueller to be the savior. I think that's a made up narrative, largely.

Obviously tons of us were hopeful that a Watergate-like scenario would play out but I don't think many *expected* it to play out that way.


>And we/the left/etc put so much stock into "Trump colluded
>with Russia to steal the election" and/or "Russia owns Trump"
>that we forgot to talk about all the other horrible stuff he
>has done in plain sight as President.

Again I just don't think this is true. We put a lot of stock in both. At least I personally did and do. I think there was a fascination with this investigation (and continues to be) because there's a lot of unprecedented stuff there. I don't think this was some fool's errand. If it were why would the repugs be working so hard to conceal the findings ?


>We had this fantasy that there would be a watergate-like
>situation where Trump had to leave in shame- we focused on
>this unlikely situation rather than putting the right amount
>of energy into everything from the Muslim ban to the wall to
>the tax scam.
>
>
>
>We have to stop expecting institutions, republicans (even
>Mueller), and rich white people to do the "right" thing.
>
>So this idea that Mueller handed stuff off to other
>institutions to save us just sounds like wishful thinking that
>ignores the past 3 years or whatever. No institution has
>stopped him to this point.

So is the solution to just give up ? Investigations into outright corruption aren't worth it ? A lot of the investigations I speak of involve the "horrible stuff Trump has done right in front of our faces" that you speak of. So of course they're relevant and important.

I also think there's been plenty of attention paid to the Muslim ban, the wall (ESPECIALLY) and the tax scam. Just because he's corrupt all over doesn't mean we can only focus on a few areas of his corruption. It's all-encompassing and that's why it's so difficult to stop. Well, that and the fact that repugs never act in good faith ever.


>I mean, if there is some really terrible stuff in this report
>that Barr is hiding or that Mueller felt he couldn't trust him
>with, why didn't the hero Mueller give it to Congress himself?
> Or leak that shit?

Because he has no authority to do that and it would be viewed as partisan, maybe. Who knows. We're 3 days into this thing.


>I was told he was some expert investigator who loved his
>country, hated Russia, etc. But he is going to continue to
>let a Russia asset be POTUS because of norms or something?

Who told you that ? LABeathustla ?


>Even if the above questions are silly because of legal
>reasons, you know Trumpsters will be saying something
>similar.
>
>
>Yeah, the investigations in congress should continue, etc.
>But we need to stop focusing on it so much and Dems need to
>talk about shit that will help win the election.

They can and should do both.


>Headlines everywhere today basically say "Trump Innocent" and
>there is no going back from that, man.

Those headlines are starting to change now that the hysteria has dissolved a bit.


>It sucks. It isn't fair.
>
>Running around telling everyone "oh there's more to this
>story, just wait" isn't the play man. "We" will sound like
>we are screaming "fake news" or whatever.

Who's running around ? I'm just bringing the info I'm seeing to a message board. It's an ongoing, fluid discussion. I have no control over the narrative. That's the media's job.


>Nothing is going to happen to Trump in a legal sense, man.

Maybe not. Doesn't mean his all-encompassing corruption shouldn't be pursued. You can both investigate his corruption, and focus on 2020 at the same time. In fact, at some point they may intersect. One may assist with the other.